Mikie2times

It's ok to say his name. I know it sounds worse than 4 time MVP. The guys you mention won the pre Super Bowl version of the Super Bowl. What am I supposed to do, condemn Blanton Collier for only coaching a couple years into the Super Bowl era? Halas and Paul Brown have 13 combined NFL championships. They didn't spend most or even the better part the careers they had in the era I'm talking about. The three I mentioned are all that exist and last time I checked Allen is about 20 times better than anything Marty had. If you think McD is what is standing in the way of a perennial bottom feeder I don't know what to say. I would rather not live in a bubble knowing a 65+ rating at QB has equaled a 73% win rate since 2020. Josh has hit that number every year.

Not with that latest edge rusher we have lined up in the 4th round next year

I'm not sure, I don't see it as the same situation. LaFleur is an offensive coach, which is far more valuable in todays NFL. He is likely a large reason why Love is even a middle upper. Love isn't carrying the franchise like Josh is either. So parting ways with LaFleur will certainly be a rebuild in a bigger way than McD would (outside of his cooker cutter defensive players). Then Love, it's his second year with him. How much of those playoff failures fall on Rodgers? Not sure on this. But what I do know is his own unit actually performs fairly well in the late playoffs. Around the same level Buffalo's has. It's not the 2nd worse performing unit out of any team since 2020 like the Bills defense is. Further, if you watched the 49ers game last year, yes, LaFleur really cost them in that game. It was a game they should have won. So I would say he is on a warm seat, but not as warm as McMarty.

Super Bowl era coaches .600 or better in the regular season and never been to a Super Bowl. Marty, Sean, LeFleur That is the entire list in almost 60 years of Super Bowl era football.

Oh geez. If it wasn't for Andy Dalton you would be remembering Rex Ryan the year prior with a better point differential. We lucked into breaking the drought with a -57 point differential and then coughed up a win in Houston the next year getting outscored 19-6 in the second half. If you want to make an argument for McD being a program starter that's fine. The argument at this point is if he is a program finisher. Which he has proved to be about as far from as any coach since Marty Schottenheimer. If that's your take, who is responsible for the Bills talent?

I think it’s the worst team in the Allen playoff era. We haven’t beat anybody who is an actual threat and we have looked sloppy in a large % of games vs bottom dwellers. Things can change, but that’s how I see it so far.

Tell you what, if McD gets us to a Super Bowl I will wear a dress and take an adult size inflatable sex toy with a shirt that says McClappin for life to my local watering hole. Order dinner for two. And take plenty of photos for the board. Not that it’s very far off from my normal post work Monday. But the point is none of the “haters” want to be right on this. We would all want nothing more to be epically wrong. To eat crow for life and bath in shame for eternity.

The 90’s filled my bowl of winning without winning the big one. I want the actual big one now. I guess that makes me miserable. As for the regular season, let’s shoot for reasons why we might think the postseason will be different. Let’s start with winning some games against contenders. 0-2 in that regard thus far. Chiefs and Lions on deck. I think we can hang with regular season KC but I still really want to see it happen. Lions will likely steam roll us. Burrow was hurt 2 years in that stretch and they got robbed on a phantom call in the Super Bowl Bills fans would still be talking about if the role was reversed. Not to mention, they beat KC, nearly twice in the playoffs, and kicked our A$$ at home. Sign me up for those Cincinnati failures vs the McD success story.

Given the state of the AFC East since 2020, having Josh, what would you have expected us to accomplish thus far? Missing the playoffs? The league has about 5 real difference makers at QB and having one is a massive advantage.

Isn’t that the goal? A Super Bowl? Something beyond what one would expect? Did you not expect a Wild Card appearance in the worst division in football with a hall of fame QB? That is the absolute floor and exactly what we have accomplished. Sorry I don’t join the ball wash club after every regular season win vs Mac Jones. If you want me to change my tune win a game that matters in the postseason. That SHOULD matter, to all of us. Until that happens it’s not very hard to see these threads as exactly the reason things will never change. Which is exactly why I’m a prick in every one of them.

Last thing I’m going to add to this. When teams march out Mason Rudolph, Geno Smith, a 90 year old Aaron Rogers, yes, it only matters that we have Josh. It is enough to win 3 out of 4 of those games as we have for a long time. Where the things you call out matter is when you face other great QB’s. Then you need the roster, the coaching, and the rest of it. Which is why we can’t get past the divisional round.

Would you trade what we have done for what the Bengals have done? Multiple conferences title appearances and a Super Bowl appearance? Keep in mind they lost Burrow last year and still nearly made the playoffs. I don’t know how you couldn’t trade that. The AFC East champs is like being the fastest one legged man at this point.

That’s not what the data shows The league average win rate with QB play at Josh’s level is exactly what we have done.

QB records the last 3 years with a 65 or better QBR (excluding Allen) 119-43 73.5% Allen's record the last 3 years (all 3 at 65 or better) 35-15 70% Lets not overcomplicate things

All three of these takes are spot on

The played the Raiders week 2 half asleep off the KC game and a Browns team that was a bad match up for them and really anybody in the NFL if Winston is hot as he was in that game. They have beat multiple playoff contenders at this point, including Buffalo. They're way ahead of us at this time and if you think that isn't accurate then we are far away enough in what we are seeing that it's not worth discussing further.

It's a hit he has delivered several times as a Bill.

It was a great win. Thrilling and completely not Billsy. I don't believe I have seen anything from the team this year that allows them to beat Baltimore and likely KC (if they figure anything out on offense). We have largely won the games we should win. Lost the ones in which we wanted to find out more about how good we are. Nobody really looks good this year outside of maybe Baltimore and Detroit, so perhaps style points are not something we should care about but this team doesn't historically ascend come playoff time. We have room to grow still and wins vs either KC or Detroit would do a lot to quiet what I'm saying.

The Bills play plenty of man. So maybe it's the scheme and something we don't readily see, but the Bills play the 12th most man coverage in the NFL according to the recent splits.

I don’t remember many of these threads the last 5 years

It probably helped him being so long. Not much to think about on a kick like that.

The last three Miami games (including this one) 2 of 3 they led at halftime. Last game vs them we really didn’t play well on offense. Turnovers and off schedule Allen plays drove the lopsided result. The game script so far is not surprising TBH.

Josh was very fortunate on that play

By most accounts he is a very good guy. But certainly not hard to hate the football player.

Get um Jim