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If Geno doesn't trip himself (again turnover on downs) much closer game, certainly at the start. Tennessee is just awful yet they led at halftime and it was 17-10 after 3 quarters (which could have easily been the same score as the Seattle game). This isn't the 2021 Bills, we play with our food, we haven't come in and overwhelmed anybody. The Miami away game was about as close as we have seen in that spot and it was turnover city and a few big plays from Josh. Which if that occurs, sure, we can force some turnovers.

I don't think we are the type of team that can say we will blow anybody out at this point. We are the type of team that has a much better QB and if the run game is good, we will win most the time. If the run game isn't good our offense can become very inconsistent. Then if we face a team that employs a game plan like the Cardinals and Titans did the first half, or Miami did all game, we can find ourselves in a dogfight. These teams stuck to the run and the short passing game. They possessed the ball and controlled the game until we adjusted. But lets also not forget in all 3 games we generated a massive turnover on downs early in the 2nd half. Two turnovers and a 4th down stop and these games really turned after that occurred. I can't assume we will be able to do that all the time. This specific match up? Colts rank 5th in run defense EPA. So they should be able to slow our run game down. It's a game Josh will need to win with his arm, they rank 24th in pass defense EPA. That can be concerning because Brady still seems to stick to the run to his detriment in these situations. The Colts run 12 personnel at the 6th highest rate in the NFL (1st and 2nd are the 49ers and Lions). Looking at rushing stats is pretty useless as Richardson made up so much of that but Taylor averages 4.8 per carry. Hopefully the injury to Ryan Kelly slows down the run game a bit because they will attempt to control the game as most of our opponents have. While Flacco looked like a total turd last week, he's still more than capable of executing a dink and dunk offense. Will he do it? He has that Allen quality to him and often wants to push the ball downfield. That would be a huge mistake this week. He is one of the worst in the NFL this year vs the Blitz. Will we dial it up? If we do, will it get home? This will either be a very close game or we pull away in the 2nd half. No cakewalks for us until we show a lot more. I'm from just outside Detroit and consider Lions fans to be pretty relaxed as far as aggression toward opposing fans. I've been a bit of a dumb ass a few times and they let me get away with it. They didn't have fans that would show themselves until a few years ago. Loyal base but not as proud in the loyalty as Bills fans. Great atmosphere. They can get really loud nowadays. I often joke with my friends about how many are now die hard Lions fans. Haven't heard a peep about them in 20+ years. Now everybody is on the wagon.

Veteran QB who will check it down with a solid run game and decent defense. Will be another close game.

How many wives of Maga husbands will vote for Harris? How many wives of liberal husbands will vote for Trump? I don’t think this is a very difficult question to answer and it will decide the election.

And if Mosert doesn’t fumble. Bla bla

Thanks, I wasn’t going to keep going after that one

It's ok to say his name. I know it sounds worse than 4 time MVP. The guys you mention won the pre Super Bowl version of the Super Bowl. What am I supposed to do, condemn Blanton Collier for only coaching a couple years into the Super Bowl era? Halas and Paul Brown have 13 combined NFL championships. They didn't spend most or even the better part the careers they had in the era I'm talking about. The three I mentioned are all that exist and last time I checked Allen is about 20 times better than anything Marty had. If you think McD is what is standing in the way of a perennial bottom feeder I don't know what to say. I would rather not live in a bubble knowing a 65+ rating at QB has equaled a 73% win rate since 2020. Josh has hit that number every year.

Not with that latest edge rusher we have lined up in the 4th round next year

I'm not sure, I don't see it as the same situation. LaFleur is an offensive coach, which is far more valuable in todays NFL. He is likely a large reason why Love is even a middle upper. Love isn't carrying the franchise like Josh is either. So parting ways with LaFleur will certainly be a rebuild in a bigger way than McD would (outside of his cooker cutter defensive players). Then Love, it's his second year with him. How much of those playoff failures fall on Rodgers? Not sure on this. But what I do know is his own unit actually performs fairly well in the late playoffs. Around the same level Buffalo's has. It's not the 2nd worse performing unit out of any team since 2020 like the Bills defense is. Further, if you watched the 49ers game last year, yes, LaFleur really cost them in that game. It was a game they should have won. So I would say he is on a warm seat, but not as warm as McMarty.

Super Bowl era coaches .600 or better in the regular season and never been to a Super Bowl. Marty, Sean, LeFleur That is the entire list in almost 60 years of Super Bowl era football.

Oh geez. If it wasn't for Andy Dalton you would be remembering Rex Ryan the year prior with a better point differential. We lucked into breaking the drought with a -57 point differential and then coughed up a win in Houston the next year getting outscored 19-6 in the second half. If you want to make an argument for McD being a program starter that's fine. The argument at this point is if he is a program finisher. Which he has proved to be about as far from as any coach since Marty Schottenheimer. If that's your take, who is responsible for the Bills talent?

I think it’s the worst team in the Allen playoff era. We haven’t beat anybody who is an actual threat and we have looked sloppy in a large % of games vs bottom dwellers. Things can change, but that’s how I see it so far.

Tell you what, if McD gets us to a Super Bowl I will wear a dress and take an adult size inflatable sex toy with a shirt that says McClappin for life to my local watering hole. Order dinner for two. And take plenty of photos for the board. Not that it’s very far off from my normal post work Monday. But the point is none of the “haters” want to be right on this. We would all want nothing more to be epically wrong. To eat crow for life and bath in shame for eternity.

The 90’s filled my bowl of winning without winning the big one. I want the actual big one now. I guess that makes me miserable. As for the regular season, let’s shoot for reasons why we might think the postseason will be different. Let’s start with winning some games against contenders. 0-2 in that regard thus far. Chiefs and Lions on deck. I think we can hang with regular season KC but I still really want to see it happen. Lions will likely steam roll us. Burrow was hurt 2 years in that stretch and they got robbed on a phantom call in the Super Bowl Bills fans would still be talking about if the role was reversed. Not to mention, they beat KC, nearly twice in the playoffs, and kicked our A$$ at home. Sign me up for those Cincinnati failures vs the McD success story.

Given the state of the AFC East since 2020, having Josh, what would you have expected us to accomplish thus far? Missing the playoffs? The league has about 5 real difference makers at QB and having one is a massive advantage.

Isn’t that the goal? A Super Bowl? Something beyond what one would expect? Did you not expect a Wild Card appearance in the worst division in football with a hall of fame QB? That is the absolute floor and exactly what we have accomplished. Sorry I don’t join the ball wash club after every regular season win vs Mac Jones. If you want me to change my tune win a game that matters in the postseason. That SHOULD matter, to all of us. Until that happens it’s not very hard to see these threads as exactly the reason things will never change. Which is exactly why I’m a prick in every one of them.

Last thing I’m going to add to this. When teams march out Mason Rudolph, Geno Smith, a 90 year old Aaron Rogers, yes, it only matters that we have Josh. It is enough to win 3 out of 4 of those games as we have for a long time. Where the things you call out matter is when you face other great QB’s. Then you need the roster, the coaching, and the rest of it. Which is why we can’t get past the divisional round.

Would you trade what we have done for what the Bengals have done? Multiple conferences title appearances and a Super Bowl appearance? Keep in mind they lost Burrow last year and still nearly made the playoffs. I don’t know how you couldn’t trade that. The AFC East champs is like being the fastest one legged man at this point.

That’s not what the data shows The league average win rate with QB play at Josh’s level is exactly what we have done.

QB records the last 3 years with a 65 or better QBR (excluding Allen) 119-43 73.5% Allen's record the last 3 years (all 3 at 65 or better) 35-15 70% Lets not overcomplicate things

All three of these takes are spot on

The played the Raiders week 2 half asleep off the KC game and a Browns team that was a bad match up for them and really anybody in the NFL if Winston is hot as he was in that game. They have beat multiple playoff contenders at this point, including Buffalo. They're way ahead of us at this time and if you think that isn't accurate then we are far away enough in what we are seeing that it's not worth discussing further.

It's a hit he has delivered several times as a Bill.

It was a great win. Thrilling and completely not Billsy. I don't believe I have seen anything from the team this year that allows them to beat Baltimore and likely KC (if they figure anything out on offense). We have largely won the games we should win. Lost the ones in which we wanted to find out more about how good we are. Nobody really looks good this year outside of maybe Baltimore and Detroit, so perhaps style points are not something we should care about but this team doesn't historically ascend come playoff time. We have room to grow still and wins vs either KC or Detroit would do a lot to quiet what I'm saying.