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We contained them statistically on defense which is why those two TD drives are a bit frustrating. They have been very efficient with what production we have allowed

He’s athletic. You can see that. He seems faster than Shakir, not as twitchy, physical or agile, but explosive as was advertised. He even gets the bye next week to get more healthy, Cooper as well.

Samuel is coming alive the last two week

Is 3 minutes not enough?

Just abusing our heavy pursuit

Reid knows how to use our scheme against us

Draw for now

That catch was insane. Catching a ball over your head like that is about the hardest thing you can do as a WR

We should get the call, yes

It was moving a hair when the at foot was down. Very close.

That is so close, could go either way

Wow, that was what Steph didn’t do

This is where I disagree. The Patriots Dynasty as it happened would not of happened without Free Agency. It allowed them to reload the roster quickly where in the old days those players would eventually retire and backfilling solely by the draft would have been unlikely. As long as the QB stays the same the rest of the parts can change. The relationship between how big a role the coach plays and how big a role the QB plays is forever up for debate. Andy didn't do what he's doing until Mahomes came along. That was after a very long career. Same with Bill and it most certainly ended as soon as Brady left. We know these guys are great coaches, but they don't seem to hit this legendary status until they have the QB. So I think it's likely a bit more common than we would think. That QB is creating an environment that is fairly ideal for these HC's which allows them stability, tenure, growth. If they're good they become better as a result. I mean, maybe, but we are seeing something that hasn't occurred before. So you can either take on the perspective that it's random or you can take on the perspective that its not random. It's logical to me why this is occurring after a prolonged run by the Patriots. I expect it will keep occurring (extreme or prolonged dynasties). We will see over the coming years. Appreciate your post.

By all means, please tell me the team in NFL history who has been to 4 Super Bowls in 5 years and won 3 of them.

An yet it took all those teams a decade to accomplish what the Chiefs will in half the time

Again, I sort of butchered the post and it turned into more of the Bills dethroning the Chiefs. But the main point I was going for is I think in time we will come to find out the Patriots Dynasty is more common of in the current NFL. The league always has one QB who is a notch better. Perhaps it’s only in the biggest games and brightest moments. Brady and Mahomes have been those guys (as was Montana). Peyton was not. Allen has been great, but I wouldn’t say he is one of those guy yet (please for the love of god don’t make this thread about that statement). Point is, we know Brady and Mahomes have been. The performance they have deep in the playoffs stands by itself. Then you realize this league is beyond QB dependent. Way more so than even the 80’s or 90’s when RB’s still mattered. Then people said free agency will kill the dynasty, but it actually made it worse. Before everybody would get old and retire or lose talent and those teams would fade away. Now these teams are just reloading with it and as long as that QB still plays at a high level (which is way more likely now vs then because of the rules) the dynasty can keep going. Obviously all of this gets exacerbated by having a great GM and Coach, but the continuity of what I’m describing allows that to happen way more so than it normally would as most other teams are swapping out those roles every few years. It sort of creates this snowball effect. We have a lot of these elements going for us. Very similar. It what’s led to the best overall record this decade. But we haven’t been able to overcome this Dynasty and while we might break thru one year as Manning did and others, this Chiefs team has another 5+ years the way this has been going. So then you wonder, is this really a coincidence? The two longest running most successful dynasty’s in our sport will have occurred back to back, literally concurrent. Which then makes you think, is this really that uncommon anymore or is this a byproduct of the modern game? We will see…. Read the post I just put up

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I didn't do a good job with the post. I'm talking more about extended dynasties. The Steelers won 4 Super Bowls in 4 appearances The 49ers won 4 Super Bowls in 4 appearances The Cowboys won 3 Super Bowls in 3 appearance The Patriots won 6 Super Bowls in 9 appearances The Chiefs have won 3 Super Bowls in 4 appearances with no end in sight The Patriots and Chiefs look different to me. They have what is considered to be the best QB and it started very young for them. They have the support of a good coach. They have the support of a good roster that can have pieces subbed in and out much more easy than those older dynasties. If the QB has drive, who is slowing him down? You can't hit him. He's not even 30. So you end up building a roster for a decade around this person. Who plays the most impactful position in all of sports. What I'm saying is this is NOT rare anymore. Whenever the Chiefs run ends, which is likely 5+ years from now, another will start and it will take the mold of the Patriots and Chiefs, not the Steelers, 49ers, or Cowboys.

I think the Patriots and Chiefs have the same things in common. QB, coaching, roster build. When you have the QB you will be competitive regardless. If you add the coach it makes that even more difficult to compete against. Once you get the roster on top of that, now you have a dynasty. It stands to reason in todays NFL that one team will be slightly ahead in these areas. So while teams can sneak thru and steal one, no other dynasty can exist until something tangible breaks up the one that is active. I understand I tossed in some Bills talk, but it wasn't meant to be about them. But if you make it about them, can they sneak thru? Sure. But will Reid remain better than McD? Veach better than Beane? I won't get into Mahomes and Allen. But in my mind we are the Chiefs light. We have all the same things as them, but slightly worse. I don't know what they will go thru for that to change. Unless Mahomes just stops performing or Reid retires. What happened to all those teams you named? Prior to Free Agency, players moved on and retired. What happened to New England? They got free agents to fill the gaps and kept doing it all over again. If the QB has a slight edge or if the QB and coach have a slight edge, it is very hard to overcome, even if you have your own combo and it can stay that way for a VERY long time, but once its over, expect a new one will start. That's the NFL today.

When you look at what New England accomplished, it’s clear they did something unprecedented in professional football. Sure, we’ve seen dynasties before—teams like the Bears in the Halas era, the Browns in the AAFL, the Packers, Steelers, and 49ers all had their time at the top. But as someone who’s followed the sport closely since the early '90s, and has really dug into its history, I didn’t think we’d ever see anything like what the Patriots did. That kind of sustained dominance, stretching across multiple decades, felt like it would never happen again. It seemed like something that couldn’t be replicated. Yet here we are, with Kansas City chasing a potential three-peat, which—again—has never been done before. The crazy thing is, it only took a single off-season for the Patriots’ dynasty to smoothly transition into Kansas City’s. And when I started thinking about that, as I bounced it around my normal Bills thoughts, it seems to fit. Honestly, I don’t think we’re all that great, but when you take a step back, the truth is nobody else really is either. McDermott, for all the criticism he gets from me and others, is a disciplined coach. Combine that with a top-tier QB, and you’re set to win a lot of games. That’s something most teams just don’t have. So, I started wondering—are these dynasties really as rare as we think, or is this just the new normal for the NFL? Sure, Brady had Manning, Roethlisberger, and others, while Mahomes has Allen, Burrow, Lamar, and others to contend with, but as we’ve hashed out endlessly in these forums, they’re still a step behind. Once you look beyond those guys, who’s really challenging Mahomes and the Chiefs? The NFL is so firmly a quarterback-driven league now. Out of all the professional sports, I’d argue QB is by far the most impactful position, the one that dictates the outcome more than any other. The way the game is structured now, if you have an elite QB, you don’t have down years. You don’t rebuild—you’re always competitive. And when you get a great QB paired with excellent coaching and roster management? That’s when you get dynasties like we’re seeing now. Even back in the old days, when free agency wasn’t a factor, the value of a team was spread out across all positions, with the QB still being the most important piece, but not to the extent it is today. Now, I’m starting to think these so-called dynasties may not be as special or rare as we once thought. They might just be what we can expect moving forward in the NFL. Meanwhile, the rest of the teams are like the Colts with Peyton Mannings, trying to catch up, but for the most part, they’ll just be outclassed.

I mostly agree, but for all the QB's you listed, Burrow is probably the most traditional in the way he plays. Which is sort of interesting as traditional is almost becoming non traditional. I still think a traditional style is the most deadly. When QB's improvise or run good things can certainly happen and it adds another element defenses have to worry about but inconsistent things can happen as well. Nothing can beat what Brady did or Montana did. Just carve you up systematically. Totally demoralizing.

Burrow is in that group

KC is half those games. I don't mean to always be negative, it's just impossible to envision this team running off 3-4 straight against upper tier teams. Beating KC seems mild in comparison to accomplishing that.

Maybe we get lucky, but no 3rd world team in the wild card this year

Eric Wood, the center of the line, Had a red nose that shined so fine! It wasn’t just a little glow, It lit the field from head to toe! All of the Bills would laugh and say, “Eric’s nose will lead the way!” But when they saw that glowing light, They knew he'd block with all his might! Then one chilly game-night clear, Coach said, “Eric, come right here! With your red nose shining bright, You’ll block that guy with all your might!” Now Eric Wood, he’s in the zone, His red nose makes him overblown, When he blocks and breaks through the pack, He’s lighting up the whole attack! Now all the players cheer and shout, “Eric’s nose helps us block it out! He’s the toughest guy on the field, With that red nose, we just won’t yield!” They say that when his nose does glow, It’s like a beacon—watch it go! With every snap and every block, That red nose just won’t stop! Eric Wood, the red-nosed guy, He’s our hero, don’t ask why! With that red nose shining bright, The Bills are winning every fight!