Mikie2times

I’m counting games at a level of competition that is above the wild card round. His stats are still very good post wild card, but it looks rather pedestrian compared to what Mahomes has done in literally every statistical category. His data in the divisional or later rounds, is the best of all time, conversation over. It’s not close. Now why is it sane to look at in these terms? Allen’s 5 wild card games against Mahomes divisional and later games are different. It’s a significant difference in competition and performance by both. If it wasn’t we wouldn’t get stuck at the divisional round every year. When you just compare similar rounds, you get the results I’m showing. I don’t know what logic you land on where it makes sense to eliminate the bulk of the games Mahomes has played just because Allen didn’t advance. You think the issue is Allen is younger. Thats not why he has so many less games. It’s because we lost. He has had 4 opportunities to advance past the divisional round and he did so once. Mahomes has had 6 opportunities and he did so 6 times. Who cares what the first 10 games for each resulted in, when we are comparing several wild card games vs multiple divisional, championship, and Super Bowl games. Do you not see how convoluted it is to look at it in these terms?

Wait, so because Josh and the Bills haven’t advanced and played the bulk of his playoff games in the wild card round, we should manipulate Mahomes playoff data to somehow match Allen’s? Dude you’re on one. You do realize Mahomes has played in 18 playoff games and still has played in less wild card games than Allen. He’s almost played in as many Super Bowls as Allen has wild card games. Pump the breaks and get some relevant context to the data you’re spewing.

Mahomes first 5 divisional playoff games? What contorted crooked math are you pulling here? Let me make this really simple for you. Mahomes has played in 10 divisional or conference championship games. He has 28 passing TD’s and 2 INT’s. He has the highest EPA in divisional and conference championship history at .333 Allen has played in 5 divisional or conference championship games. He has 8 passing TD’s and 2 INT’s. He has an EPA of .146 which is less than half of Mahomes.

In that distance you either want more coverage or more disruptors. A spy is more passive and almost worthless in that spot. Spags was aggressive, he had plenty of guys penetrating. Allen took advantage of the over pursuit and it worked out.

That trucking in the Bengals game was legend

I love his angry runs

It "felt" a little different, yes. I don't know what to fully make of it. Part of me doesn't feel KC is our biggest problem this year. They could become that if they turn on the playoff switch as they have in the past. Which isn't to discredit the win, but we actually match up fairly well against them now winning 4 straight in the regular season. That Detroit game will be a huge test for us. We don't need to win, but I want to see a one score game. Our run defense seems to be stiffening but we still haven't faced a power run game like Baltimore since that shellacking. The 49ers don't really scare me but Detroit is a Super Bowl team no doubt. Power run game. Should be the exact style team I'm most concerned with. I'm also from that area so it means a little more. I know it will mean a lot to them. They have a ton of the same players as the roster they had on Thanksgiving and I assure you they did not forget that loss. I don't like McD and I have been brutally skeptical all year of just how good this team is, but I did feel a lot of good after this one. I wanted some hope this year that was sincere and I didn't expect that. That is building a bit for me. This team could get signifgantly better by years end. I feel like Diggs subtraction has led to some positive diversity on offense which is now actually being realized by the addition Cooper (what a catch). But the team feels fun again to some extent now that Diggs left, almost like the early iterations in 2020 did. Babich seems to be adding a nice dimension and limiting some of that McD predictability (or perhaps McD has just learned). We have seen some defensive progression by multiple players. Lastly, Josh seems to finally be willing to check it down and understand his role as QB in a broader plan. With all that said, this team has made people feel like THIS is the year so many times just to totally lay an egg. Any optimism from me is going to be guarded. I have my bit of hope that I really did not think would happen this year. I don't need to go full "Here we come Dallas" Super Bowl mode at this point. Go Bills!

Literally the entire game thread was people complaining about the coaching decisions. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like we are a 4th down away from winning the Super Bowl vs being horrible, having awesome coaches vs getting schooled. It was one game, it shouldn't change how you feel or felt that drastically. I'm not a McD fan, but felt we did a solid job I felt and Babich is giving me some hope. Seeing us more in man was nice. We had some head scratching moments but all and all I'm happy with what we did. Especially in defending Hunt.

We have beat KC in the regular season 4 straight years and never beat KC in the playoffs. You can tell me how this time is different, but I really don't care. As I said, it was a great win. I'm happy as hell. But as far as parlaying that thought into something beyond that, no thanks.

Sure, you can do what you want and other people are free to tell you your jubilation is short sighted.

I disagree with the take and it's a forum so I thought that is what you do on forums, your word choice is cute

We beat KC in the regular season in 2021, 2022, 2023, and now 2024. So 4 straight years. They have this knack of turning it on more in the playoffs which isn't all that uncommon with dynasty level teams. That's not to say it wasn't a great win. We looked really good. But I just can't draw many conclusions about what that means for the future given our history. Having said that, I'm largely with you here. I think we CAN beat them in the playoffs. With that, I think people around here are going to think if we do our Super Bowl destiny is nearly guaranteed. That is where I think we will be in for a rude awakening. We have spent so much energy on beating KC and I don't even think KC is our biggest obstacle. We match up well with them. I never thought post 13 seconds we would have beat that Bengals team, at the peak of what they did and you can see around here people view that as a basic afterthought. We don't match up very well against Baltimore or Houston. Pittsburgh is a dangerous team with even average QB play. It is a very long path to the Super Bowl and if we have a chance to make that happen we can't treat one team as if it's our Super Bowl. That is my fear as we keep going.

And Mahomes has what, 28TD and 2INT? Where did this conversation about Burrow come from? The unbalance this place has from wins and losses is hilarious

Take a peak at the Divisional round or later, not that I really care about this conversation at the moment

I didn't realize that was the only game we played against them in the playoffs. You do realize Mahomes has 28 TD and 2 INT's in the Divisional and Championship rounds. Did you think we got his best today or that Bernard is going to turn him into a pumpkin come playoff time? It was a great win. Lets pump the breaks on rewriting history.

If Mahomes played like he does in the regular season vs us he would have never won a Super Bowl. Huge win, very happy, but shutting him down in the postseason is what we still need to do

Johnson seems to be featured a lot more vs KC as well. I imagine with the bye ahead they didn't feel the need to push it.

Wow, refs blew that one bad

4th down?

Several. We can’t allow field goal range too quick

They have two times outs and will play for a fast field goal. So possible onside kick and one more first down needed. Lot of game left.

Wow. All Josh

Not like they’re the best run defense in football. Gotta go for this.

Again, we need to end this on offense

Must have it