Mikie2times

I will add, I would have probably given Lamar first team AP and Josh MVP. You can make an argument that one had the better season and the other was the most valuable player in the league. I think that is the right argument to be honest.

I have a little horse in the race for this thought process. Bovada is not putting up a line they don't think is accurate. They have it it at -220 for Lamar. So about 65% implied odds. Which makes sense with the AP history. But with that, Allen closing the year at -200 or better and still losing would be just as unprecedented as anything else. So to say he can't win now just based on the 1st team AP always winning, well, I don't think anybody knows right now and I would just throw out the historical info. I would give Lamar 60% likelihood or so, but this thing is not locked up. Your scenario is absolutely possible.

Watson the day after surgery trying to stay injured forever

Is Dawkins the #1 or #2 tackle in the NFL? Is Brown?

He played well in 3 of his first 13 games in that image. Time has clouded your judgement.

I grew up watching him just like you did. He had an atrocious start to his career, got better later, had some excellent games. All said, fair below his regular season pedigree. He literally has as many games he was directly responsible for losing as winning. Playoff hero, he is not. So what is Allens record vs Mahomes in the playoffs? Does that tell the whole story for that comparison?

Ok, he was 40 TD and 25 INT his whole career and he was .500 , let me rip my panties off

After 7 seasons he had 18 TD and 15 INT's in the playoffs. His Super Bowl Year he had 3 TD's and 7 INT's. His first 6 years they went 3-6 losing his first playoff game 4 times. Did he get it together later? Sur, somewhat. Never even close to his regular season level.

I think Brown is a fringe all pro, but not at all surprised he didn't get it. Taron is a top 3 Nickle, Cook is not an All Pro back, should have been a Pro Bowl back and maybe the same applies to Benford. Those DB's stats mean little to me without context of coverage being played. All in all I think this team has very limited high end talent which is what the All Pro team specifically is.

Peyton was one of the worst playoff QB's of all time so I see the similarities.

Part of what you need to troll somebody is somebody who cares. You got the wrong person.

Says 9 post Ravens troll

QB's get heavily penalized for INT's and don't get a lot of credit for rushing production Should have a real shot next year with more awareness.

All Pro's are the best one or two at that position in the league. We do not have any players outside of Taron who are the best one or two players at the position. It's not a conspiracy.

Who?

It's the 2nd one

Stats did matter last year. But no year in NFL history has QB not been able to win it on the merit of his passing stats alone. That isn't fair in Bills fans eyes, but it's been consistent. These are the updated odds from an offshore book Those didn't update I guess, but I just checked Bovada and sure enough

Odds are updating to be implied at about 65%. Still the favorite, but he's dropping for sure.

Campbell assembled a staff of nobody's in the NFL and both his coordinators will be HC's. Not to mention leading one of the all time turnarounds. The Lions were at the Jets level of dysfunction. He deserves a lot of credit and I imagine is one of the top 3-5 in the NFL.

Diggs did some great things for us, but we maybe never know how big of a cancer he was. Sometimes it's hard to know even if you're in the situation until you're out of it for awhile.

Hard not to like the guy. He has overcome a lot, hard nosed, excellent addition to any org.

I'm sure some do. Who has the time for such things?

You don't have an image, your name is wide left, you have 184 posts. I'm all for a good McD bashing, but you have to be trolling.

That's pretty damn exciting