Mikie2times

I'm right with you on your views of his maturity, and tentativeness. He's had horrible accuracy but it has much more to do with indecision then mechanics. You don't get drafted in the first round if you can't hit somebody in the numbers. I would like to see more games that have him throwing over 200 yards and if that includes some INT's so be it. He's so caught up in the managing the game talk that he won't take any risks. Most of the great young quarterbacks usually have fairly even TD/INT ratio the first year, some even have it lopsided toward the INT side. The following year is when you really see that change along with completion %.

He said either those exact words or something very close to how I put it. It was talked about it in preseason and at least at one point during the regular season. I will try and find an article that has it.

I think that’s what he means when he say's he just needs to trust his reads and throw the ball. It looks like he is so worried about getting picked he becomes indecisive, and his accuracy falters. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we see JP's INT totals rise as his production improves.

I guess we just differ in what we think the window is this year. If I felt like we had all the peaces to make the playoffs and it was just JP holding us back I would make the move, but I would have done it at the start. In fact I even suggested that prior to the season not knowing that the defense would take such a large step backwards. I have no doubt Holcomb would play better then JP at this point. I just don't think he can make this team good enough to make the playoffs, and unless you know that for sure I don't think its worth giving up on our 1st rounder after three games.

For arguments sake let’s just say Kelly Holcomb's play is either slightly worse, equal, or slightly better then Bledsoe. Last year we missed the playoffs with Drew Bledsoe at the helm. We went 9-7, and mounted a hellish win streak against what were obviously some pretty weak teams. But despite who we played lets just say that we were a legit 9-7. Now Lets remove Jonas Jennings, Pat Williams, and Takeo Spikes from our team. Is Kelly Holcomb so much better then Drew Bledsoe that he can withstand the loss of those three guys and propel us to a 10-6 record this year? Holcomb might improve the QB play but then what do we make of our 1st round QB making first round money? It's not like we can tell JP to take the rest of the year off, and that next year he will get his chance to play in a couple games to prove himself. I'm not trying to rag on ya man, I want to win just as bad as anybody. But you know how many great QB's we would have never got the chance to see if they only got a 3 game audition?

Why did ya have to dig up this craptastrophie? Your right though, still should be an exciting year regardless of how the last two weeks played out.

I thought he did in the Saints opener a few years back. If thats the case you also need to keep in mind he blew his knee out against Tampa the year prior.

Indecision spawns inaccuracy. Right now JP is very indecisive with his throws, he even has said that's his main problem on more then one occasion. Despite what we have seen I just have a very hard time believing a QB can go in the first round if he is as inaccurate as JP has been thus far. Things will turn around when he learns to trust his reads.

Ouch, I actually played old Drew this week. Anybody against the 49ers pass defense is a good play at this point.

You in a 75 player league with 40 teams?

Ain't that the truth

I'm just trying to find a ray of light in this sh-- storm. Hard to accept that were back to the wait until next year talk after three weeks.

At least we can look at the points scored and yardage being produced and know that if the passing game does turn around 20 points per game isn't out of the question.

2004 First 3 Games 100 Yards Rushing Per Game 174 Yards Passing Per game 10 offensive points (including PAT) Per Game 2005 First 3 Games 124 Yards Rushing Per Game 100 Yards Passing Per Game 13.6 offensive points (including PAT) Per Game So the offense averaged 50 more yards a game last year and 3.6 less points. Call me crazy but I see JP improving on that 100 yards substantially as the season progresses. As it stands were scoring 13.6 points a game with literally no passing game. It’s early folks, were 1-0 in the AFC, and contrary to popular opinion pets heads are not falling off.

I think Willis himself feels the same way, at least that’s what it looked like after the week 1 throw to Peters. I'm all about what works, and if it's a QB sneak for a couple inches so be it. But if your going to make a call that shows little faith in your offensive line, and RB, you better make it.

I think that’s a pretty accurate assessment. JP has showed inaccuracy but some of that is due to lack of experience. Some people will say accuracy is something he should just have, and it doesn't matter that it' only his third game. To a point that’s true, but not fully understanding coverage schemes will make a QB hesitant, and that will certainly effect his accuracy. As for Willis I'm seeing the same things. He is a very good back, and is obviously a player that handles the RB position well. But he doesn't have the speed and explosiveness he had in college. Now he relies more on power, which is fine because he is a very powerful back. I'm not even about to complain about one of the best players on this team, but if you saw enough of him in college it's obvious he isn't the player he once was. I guess that just goes to show you how incredible he was at Miami, all the power in the world with 4.3 speed and elusiveness.

By all accounts Takeo ruptured his right Achilles tendon. I guess the question now is how have others in the past responded to this type of injury. Didn't Cowart tear his achilles for opener against the Saints a few years back? He probably wouldn't be the best person to look at because he also blew out his knee. Marino tore an Achilles, but again it's hard to compare him to a OLB that is known for speed. The best player to look at might be Julian Peterson. If you don't recall Peterson was also among the leagues elite, and looked at as a speed OLB. He ruptured his ACL last year, and is back starting with the 49ers this season. Anybody see enough of him to know if he is as dominant as he was prior to the injury? It would be a damn shame if this injury changes one of the best LB's the Bills have ever seen. The guy is all heart, and you know he is going to work like nobody else to come back. I just hope when he does make it back he can return to being the player we love to watch so much Get better Takeo.

In TC defense JS had the first down easy had he not slipped. Plenty of guys slipped yesterday including JP on the critical 4th and inches, and Willis as he broke his longest run of the day. That said Lee Evans would have probably been a better candidate to execute that play, but he certainly would have drawed more attention.

Reminded me of the game we played in Dallas when Drew was here. We stayed within a touchdown all game but that 7 points felt like 30. I watched and wished for it the whole game, but even when we got the fumbled punt at the end I just couldn't see us getting it done.

Maybe if we had a playoff caliber team you could make the win now argument. But Holcomb is not going to come in and lead this team to the promise land. We might get some improved play but it would be at the expense of JP's future. We all want to win now, but we need to be patient, 3 games into a career is hardly enough to time judge a QB's future.

Lazy bastard

How many people still alive for your contest LA? I know I'm still in it.

I remember thinking the same thing. We almost lost MaGee on that drive to. I know this is a crap way of looking at things but did TKO's injury happen after we allowed a first down? I watched the game but can’t remember if that was the case. Either way it's a very depressing loss for the Bills and the fans.

The NFC sucks theory is carrying over from last year. In the meantime we might just have played the two teams that seem the most viable contenders to the Eagles at this point.

I'm not giving up on JP at all. This is what I thought we would get early on so I can't say I'm surprised in anyway. But nobody knows for sure how he will handle this situation and the criticism he will receive. He has never experienced this before, and it's got to be a pretty big adjustment to go from everybody’s media darling to what will be happening this week in Buffalo.