Mikie2times

Stop using big words

Thats exactly what was reported to have happened.

What are the blunt facts Mr. Messenger? Half the players you mentioned are still under contract. - We played a completely new look last year with several players not meant for the systems we play - It seem like Marv is actually trying to make major additions to the offensive line, an area that has severally hampered this team for the last decade - The Bills started more rookies then any team in football last season, and are one of the youngest teams in football - We have a QB who finally started to get things after the bye Maybe you’re not getting any real responses because this is the same regurgitated doomsday scenario we hear all the time from people "telling it like it is". It’s certainly not all roses but you, me, and the rest of this board have no fuggin clue how 2007 will play out.

He is exactly the type of back Fairchild is looking for, but with the injury issues he wouldn't be a solution for 2007, and might never return to the player he was.

His amortized bonus is 1.8 million this year, so if the Bills spread that out evenly with two years remaining his cap hit would be at least 3.5 million. It could be a little more or less depending on when we do it, and how the contract is structured. As for his trade value I would have to say it's slim to none. He might get a few feelers because he has a couple years of potential upside with injury involved, but at this point other teams likely view him as old damaged goods with a hefty price tag.

I watched him in college for N. Illinois several times. I've probably watched about 10 games of him at the pro level. He hits the hole like a freight train and is very difficult to bring down. His build makes it very difficult to even get your arms around him. He's more quick then fast and agile, but he still has the speed to finish runs. He's far from ideal as a pass receiver which makes me question how good a fit he is for us. His arms are very short, his hands are small, and he doesn't catch or run routes very well. He would be a perfect fit for a power rushing team that doesn't utilize its backs as receivers. The Bills are looking for smaller athletic lineman, and a back that’s diverse enough to also play receiver. I don't see him being a great fit for us but he will do very well if he signs with the right team.

I've been watching the guy since N. Illinois, he can't catch worth a crap.

Turners built like bowling ball, and goes downhill as fast as one. The one thing I do question is his diversity. Buffalo wants a guy that can be effective as a receiver, and Turner has short arms with bad hands.. In his three years with the Chargers he's only caught 7 passes. I would avoid him for that and the high draft pick. I do think he will do well if he goes to the right team.

It hasn't made any sense anytime you've said it either. Jauron can call us a cover 2 team but we played almost no cover 2 from the bye on. After the bye we played Nate man up on the team’s number one. Now we lose Nate, and have to return McGee to zone which was a big reason we switched in the first place. How is Dre Bly not a good fit if we want to continue the schemes that did well last year?

How about our #1 for the Giants #1 and #2.

Hmm......... In the commercials he said because he lost weight chicks "dig" him. Maybe he found out it wasn't true.

Wow, if thats what we will give Kelsey I have to think we have a shot at Steinbach or Dielman.

He's right to a degree. Cover 2 corners are somewhat restricted to zone, and that limits the playmaking style of the great corners like Nate or Bly. Bly has come out and said he doesn't want to be restricted in this manner. That said Buffalo all but abandoned the traditional cover 2 look after the bye week. McGee was better in man then zone, and Clements was a waste off talent keeping him in zone underneath. If Buffalo wants to play the same looks as last season they will need to fill Nates shoes with a quality guy.

http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...mp;#entry914192 Also Nate played almost no cover 2 last year. He was straight up man from the bye week on. That type of role is exactly what Bly is looking for.

Marv you hurt my feelings, I don't want to play in my contract year.

The player never sees the last few years of a back loaded contract anyway so that points irrelevant.

Yes you can structure it like this. It's just not a popular format because you need so much cap room and it's not an efficient way to clear immediate cap space. For our situation it would be a very good strategy to employ.

For combat or entertainment?

He never learned to scroll down.

If you have any questions about how contracts are structured this is a great source of information. http://www.falcfans.com/features/capmain.html

I would say that’s a very reasonable and accurate take on things. Good post.

As Cinci pointed out 53*32= 1696 roster spots in this league. Less then 5% of those players will demand a signing bonus in excess of 10 million if they hit the open market. It's probably even less then that. For every Nate Clements Free Agency has 50 John Doe's. John Doe might not win you a championship but neither does dropping 20 million on a FA signing bonus.

Would you say our future is doomed? We seem to disagree most the time but I respect your opinions and feel you’re a very knowledgeable guy when it comes to football. I guess I would be disappointed if you thought that way. All things aside I do see a world of obstacles ahead for the franchise, and I'm very worried about our future. I'm just trying to stay positive by looking at ways we can remain competitive.

I don't disagree but did you see McGee play zone last year? The man was picked on more then a thong.

I'll agree with you I've been saying the same thing for a while. Coverage wise we dumped the cover 2 at the midway point. With the way McGee played zone we needed to. To say I'm concerned about next year’s strategy would be understatement.