Mikie2times

If Peter King did my handicapping I'd be a homeless crack addict.

Jags off a short week. By the way very good post. I like this place so much more after a win.

I think people discredit the strength of a team too much if their perception of that team proves wrong. The perception of ND coming into the season was that they would roll. Unfortunately they started slow, and had to play two underrated teams in GT and Michigan. People overreacted to those games without the foresight of GT and Michigan being good, and ND just starting slow. Now they started to get things rolling but so have a few other teams and ND hasn't been able to overcome those early impressions.

Besides special teams we don't do anything well. Some will take that as a knock on Dick Jauron's coaching. If this was his third season I would feel the same way. The way I see it is we have marginal and young talent all over the roster. This is a bad team, but this bad team just got its 4th win. It's sad to say but I think 4 out of 10 with who we have is a very good job. Last year we probably had more talent to work with and the same systems yet Mularkey only won 5.

Well good for him. I'm sure his experiences helped build character, and resiliency. Let's hope he can translate that to the field.

Hit big on Cincinnati, and Kansas (NCAA). Moderate win on San Francisco, and possibly Denver. No complaints.

Pennington's from Compton?

So you got caught up in the hype, happens to us Bills fans nearly every year. Rutgers is a good team, with GREAT coaching. College football games can be very funny at times. Maybe if Rutgers makes that first FG, or if Teel hits on any of those open 1st quarter passes it's a different game. As it was Cincinnati came out hungry, and Rutgers only fed them confidence in the first half. Unfortunately I think WV will really take advantage of Rutgers smaller DL. When your DT's are both 260 pounds they need to play in the backfield. WV has one of the best centers in college football. I also see the misdirection WV runs hurting an overaggressive Rutgers defense. No matter how it plays out it's been a hell of a year for Rutgers. They have nothing to be ashamed about.

Ok then so what are we even talking about? You took my stance on Rutgers win being more circumstance as being all circumstance. That wasn't what I was trying to say. Circumstance clearly played a roll. You also have to be pretty good to take advantage of those circumstances. I still don't feel they're better then Louisville. This all started by Ed arguing about them beating WV, when I don't even think they will beat Cincinnati (in large part do to circumstance).

We will see. Oddsmakers have Rutgers -6 at Cincinnati tonight. So as of now they tend to agree with my point of view. After tonight you might also. If not I guarantee you will when they play West Virginia.

Yup. I still see WV as the class of the Big East. Even though they beat Louisville I would only rate Rutgers 3rd in the Big East. The win against Louisville happened under ideal conditions, and then still barely happened. It was a horrible trap set up for Louisville. First they play the biggest game in Louisville history at home. Then following week they have to play the second biggest game in Rutgers history on the road. They couldn't match Rutgers intensity for 60 minutes, and blew a 20 point lead. I played them over +200 and made a bundle so I was happy, but the point is Louisville wins that game more times then not. I believe the same can be said in the case of West Virginia beating Louisville. That was a horrible set up for them to play in, but on a neutral field West Virginia beats Louisville more times then not. If Rutgers survives this weekend, then it will mean the Rutgers/West Virginia game would be for the Big East. No way in hell West Virginia will let that opportunity pass them by after they already thought they lost it a few weeks ago.

He really struggled as a Junior in a new system, but has clearly rebounded this year. Palko could be a very intriguing fit for us. He has a gunslingers mentality which will sometimes lead to turnovers; it will also lead to some great throws under pressure. He has less then ideal arm strength, but is accurate and smart. He worked very hard in the off-season to improve on his Junior year, and it shows. Outside his skills he's about as emotionally involved in games as any QB I've seen. He has that Farve look to him. Obviously not Farves talent, but he will complete a pass after getting hit and start yelling at the guy that hit him.

If Rutgers gets past Cincinnati they have zero chance of beating West Virginia. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cincinnati knock them off. Most teams will have an off week following a huge win. They benefited from facing Louisville a week after they played West Virginia. Now they will be the ones who have to come off a huge win, and play a good team on the road. Cincinnati is improving every week. They play excellent run defense, and have played well against good teams all year. It will be the last home game they play this season. I knew once the line was released it would plummet so I grabbed Cincinnati +7.5 Sunday night.

Being from Michigan and now stuck in Ohio I would like nothing more then a Michigan victory. I just see Henne looking like Bledsoe Jr and it costing them the game.

The line reflects Ohio States recent advantage over Michigan, Smith over Henne, HF, and a dominating ATS number the last two seasons. None of which I can disagree with. Oddsmakers have had a long time to think about this line. They mentioned it would be around -7 as early as three weeks ago. They know this game will see more action then any other college football game this season. Let's just say it's a solid number. Sharp action is what bumped the number to -7 today. It was at -6.5, and if I had to make any play it would have been Ohio State -6.5.

Baraka?

Last year I really enjoyed watching Penn State. Call me old fashion, I just love the option offense. This year watching West Virginia play is about as good as it gets. Slaton gets more hype then White, but I think its White that truly drives that team. Rodriguez also has to be one of the more creative play callers in college football. They fell short this year, but I could see them getting a huge boost in recruiting, and winning the NC before White and Slaton graduate.

Thank God. I did read before the Colts game they intentionally waited until after they played Indianapolis to install the turf. Polian was complaining about it.

Arguing the gamelan is dumbfounding to me. The Colts are built to get leads quick, and when they do they have a defense built to stop the pass and force more turnovers. They have one of the fastest pass rushes in football. So what do people want? They want us to play exactly into what the Colts do well. All this after this very game plan kept us in the game until the very end, against an undefeated team on the road. If we did anything else then what we did it would have been a Bears like massacre. Please leave the game planning for the professionals.

I've watched a lot of your top 6. Here are my general thoughts on each player. 1 Brady Quinn , Notre Dame , Sr - Obvious number 1. The only time he's made me nervous this year was his first game against GT. Since then he's turned it around, and will be a top 3 pick. 2 Drew Stanton , Michigan State , Sr - Most reports say he's smart/accurate. I've watched MSU/Stanton commit so many turnovers the last 3 years it's shocking. I'm talking horrible throws with more chance of being picked then caught. You also have to look at MSU's late season collapses. You can't pin that all on the QB, but you can't pin that all on the coach either. 3 Brian Brohm , Louisville , Jr - I rate him above Stanton, they have some similarities. I don't see Brohm having Stanton’s propensity for turnovers. After the Rutgers game I question Brohm's ability to make quick decisions and avoid the rush. He's a guy who I think could make it but it might be in his second go around, or take several years ala Drew Brees. 4 Jordan Palmer , UTEP , Sr - Extremely turnover prone. Survives from his last name. No way on earth would I even consider Carson Jr with any draft pick. 5 Troy Smith , Ohio State , Sr- Has all the tools, and out of everybody listed (beside Quinn) he would be my mid round pick. That said I do feel he will struggle transitioning to the pro game. He would be more of a long shot, upside type pick. I just really like his competitiveness and talent. 6 Chad Henne , Michigan , Jr - He looks so much like Bledsoe it's scary. Huge arm, careless with the football, slow making decisions, no pocket presence. I guarantee this Saturday he will make at least one play that will give you a flashback to the 2004 Buffalo Bills.

Levi Brown T Penn State

Hands down the dumbest post I've ever read on here.

Betting heavy NFL favorites on the moneyline provides about as little value as any bet in any sport. I won't even bet them with the spread.

What was Indy getting like -650

I ended up going 6-2 yesterday with Pittsburgh and the Giants left today. Another huge weekend after those back to back parlays. Pure craziness the last few weeks!