Mikie2times

Great another round peg in a square hole. Its one thing to draft a diverse player late like Williams, but to draft a three early with the intention of him being your starting NT would be amazingly stupid.

Many seem to think DT's are interchangeable, that a nose plays the same role as three or a visa versa. DT's are meant to play either one technique or the other, and very few are as effective, or even capable of playing both positions. I'm all for adding a DT, but with our needs he has to be the right DT. Being a classic three technique DT I don't see how Okoye is that player. As a three technique tackle you’re a smaller, quick player, which excels in pass rushing and stopping the run with penetration. As a nose tackle you line up head on, often encountering double teams. You must be big enough and strong enough to hold your positioning on the line. More times then not a three guy isn't even capable of playing nose, and if he is, he isn't at his ideal position. The qualities of the two positions just demand such different skill sets that it's rare to find a guy who can play both with equal effectiveness. Right now we have........ 1. Tripplett- Only a three 2. Williams- Tweener, can play either three or nose, but isn't dominating enough at NT to solve our run problems 3. McCargo- Is a three that some felt he could play NT, if he does see Kyle Williams 4. Anderson- Is a nose, but not a very good nose Three of our top four DT's are best suited to play the three techniques. The other DT, Tim Anderson, is a very bad NT. We need run stopping help more then anything which is a job that a NT is meant to solve. To paint a real world scenario of this just look at what happened to the run defense when P. Williams left. He was our NT, and after his departure the run D broke down. The following year we needed Adams to play NT but he wouldn't because it's the no glory position for DT's, and he viewed himself as a penetrating/three technique tackle. If the Bills want to make significant gains at Run Defense we need a true NT, not another 3 technique player. Check out this article in which our very own staff discusses the differences in our system. http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/525772.html

Did you pass over my thread? Pretty much says the same thing you plagiarizing SOB

Feel exactly the same way.

Don’t you hate that? I promise I didn’t read your stuff, but I obviously agree. It just doesn't make much sense otherwise.

It's not as if Buffalo is silently shopping him to a few teams, they announced he was on the block. It was an unusual path to take, but I feel they took it for a reason. From the Bills perspective they would pull the trigger for a high second or first, but I doubt they felt they would get that. The point of being so public might have been to tell Willis you’re only worth a 3rd rounder in the market, so lets be reasonable about this contract. That message isn’t as effective if you silently shop him to a couple teams. It also lays out the Bills are displeased in time for the off-season training program. If Willis is a guy we want he will not back down from this challenge. The posturing angle was my biggest concern about the new regime, and if this was posturing it was a hell of a job.

You're comparing Anderson and Gandy, to Dockery and Peters? If my name was credibility I would no longer talk to you.

Fug it, I would welcome Travis back.

Double trade for Dre Bly? That would be pretty slick.

Doesn't this feel great? To think you predicted gloom when the season ended

We now have one of the best run blocking guards in football, and one of the best pass blocking tackles in football. They compliment each other perfectly, and both are young, improving, and under contract. Holy crap I'm excited to watch these two play next year.

Stop using big words

Thats exactly what was reported to have happened.

What are the blunt facts Mr. Messenger? Half the players you mentioned are still under contract. - We played a completely new look last year with several players not meant for the systems we play - It seem like Marv is actually trying to make major additions to the offensive line, an area that has severally hampered this team for the last decade - The Bills started more rookies then any team in football last season, and are one of the youngest teams in football - We have a QB who finally started to get things after the bye Maybe you’re not getting any real responses because this is the same regurgitated doomsday scenario we hear all the time from people "telling it like it is". It’s certainly not all roses but you, me, and the rest of this board have no fuggin clue how 2007 will play out.

He is exactly the type of back Fairchild is looking for, but with the injury issues he wouldn't be a solution for 2007, and might never return to the player he was.

His amortized bonus is 1.8 million this year, so if the Bills spread that out evenly with two years remaining his cap hit would be at least 3.5 million. It could be a little more or less depending on when we do it, and how the contract is structured. As for his trade value I would have to say it's slim to none. He might get a few feelers because he has a couple years of potential upside with injury involved, but at this point other teams likely view him as old damaged goods with a hefty price tag.

I watched him in college for N. Illinois several times. I've probably watched about 10 games of him at the pro level. He hits the hole like a freight train and is very difficult to bring down. His build makes it very difficult to even get your arms around him. He's more quick then fast and agile, but he still has the speed to finish runs. He's far from ideal as a pass receiver which makes me question how good a fit he is for us. His arms are very short, his hands are small, and he doesn't catch or run routes very well. He would be a perfect fit for a power rushing team that doesn't utilize its backs as receivers. The Bills are looking for smaller athletic lineman, and a back that’s diverse enough to also play receiver. I don't see him being a great fit for us but he will do very well if he signs with the right team.

I've been watching the guy since N. Illinois, he can't catch worth a crap.

Turners built like bowling ball, and goes downhill as fast as one. The one thing I do question is his diversity. Buffalo wants a guy that can be effective as a receiver, and Turner has short arms with bad hands.. In his three years with the Chargers he's only caught 7 passes. I would avoid him for that and the high draft pick. I do think he will do well if he goes to the right team.

It hasn't made any sense anytime you've said it either. Jauron can call us a cover 2 team but we played almost no cover 2 from the bye on. After the bye we played Nate man up on the team’s number one. Now we lose Nate, and have to return McGee to zone which was a big reason we switched in the first place. How is Dre Bly not a good fit if we want to continue the schemes that did well last year?

How about our #1 for the Giants #1 and #2.

Hmm......... In the commercials he said because he lost weight chicks "dig" him. Maybe he found out it wasn't true.

Wow, if thats what we will give Kelsey I have to think we have a shot at Steinbach or Dielman.

He's right to a degree. Cover 2 corners are somewhat restricted to zone, and that limits the playmaking style of the great corners like Nate or Bly. Bly has come out and said he doesn't want to be restricted in this manner. That said Buffalo all but abandoned the traditional cover 2 look after the bye week. McGee was better in man then zone, and Clements was a waste off talent keeping him in zone underneath. If Buffalo wants to play the same looks as last season they will need to fill Nates shoes with a quality guy.

http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...mp;#entry914192 Also Nate played almost no cover 2 last year. He was straight up man from the bye week on. That type of role is exactly what Bly is looking for.