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I thought some of that played a role myself. He did have two of his worst games this year against this team though. Again, he also struggles against NE. Worst game of the year in the first one. Despite the most people agreeing I do think it's related to late movement on defense which is what KC is known for, what I saw, NE is known for as well.

Started from the first play. He threw it directly at KC defender in 2 of 3 of our first drives. Both should have been picked, neither was. This was well prior to us needing to chase. He actually played better when we had to chase.

Watch a couple minutes. I don't feel like doing this for the entire video. On the first 8 plays plays, 4 are disguised packages, one nearly resulting in an INT, the rest resulting in sacks or near sacks. Mostly Cover 2 or Cover One switches, one zone switch, they had the OLB bailing into a cover 2 look all game. I do understand Romo showed a lot of sticky coverage replays which would make you think they just blitzed and pressed all game. Just not the case.

How much were you watching for pre snap movement from the Chiefs? All they did was change looks from what they showed pre snap. It was about the only thing you could predict.

In order to be good you need to know where to throw the ball, then you execute quickly and accurately. We always knew if Josh ever got to a point where he didn't have to see a player come open but rather anticipate it, with his natural talent, the sky is the limit. KC has a good pass defense, that said, we underperformed dramatically against them this year. This made me wonder if two things that stuck with me recently might tell some of the story on why we struggle vs KC. In a recent SI article (Genius of Brian Daboll) it discusses how Daboll coaches players to remove options in the route tree based on coverage. So instead of teaching a player who is the guy, you focus on teaching him who isn't. This season, Buffalo increased it's rate of motion from 2019 by 27%, that is nearly 12% more than the next closest team. Daboll had players moving pre snap at one of the highest rates in the NFL. Most the time motion is used to diagnose coverage. KC is one of the best teams in the NFL at hiding coverages KC, along with a great pass rush, which compounds everything, plays the perfect defense to confuse Josh. Don't let him eliminate routes and make him go through the whole progression. If you watch the first half, Josh looked confused. We haven't seen him look like that in some time. He looked like he didn't know where the ball was supposed to go and threw what was likely his easiest INT ball all year. KC just dropped it. It almost makes you wonder why more teams don't play Allen like the Chiefs. Well, let me ask you, how would the Bills play Allen? Cover 2 Zone, we wouldn't change. Teams are stubborn to identity. This is just like asking why don't teams motion more when motion has been statistically proven to have a + EPA? We also struggle against NE. All but the last one. NE seems like a team that could care less about identity and likely employs a lot of hidden coverages. That said, the Chiefs are the best at this. Just a theory, discuss or call names....

They didn’t play as much cover 2 shell in the second half and blitzed more. As a result Hill put up just about all of his yards in the second half. I don’t think we have the scheme to match up against a guy like Mahomes or how it used to go with Brady. Our scheme is also very vulnerable to good TE’s. We plah almost all zone and good TE’s/QB’s exploit the vacated areas. We don’t have a pass rush from the front 4 to prevent that from happening. Our defense can look great against average to below average offenses, but it really hasn’t shown it can hold up to an elite passing offense yet. Mixing looks, zone / man, sure. 49ers should have won the Super Bowl last year. Almost 10 straight games this year the Chiefs couldn’t win by more than 7. Our scheme is just too one dimensional. Perhaps all schemes have major issues vs a team as talented as KC but ours is made more for beating the middle of the pack teams that will make enough mistakes to lose. KC will never be that team.

My biggest concern with this team and it's progression toward the final steps is McD. On offense we seem to be very flexible week to week in our approach. We aren't married to a system. On defense, we do seem married to a system. Against very high end QB's, it is not the optimal system to be in. With McD we will never have the players to play high end man coverage and that seems to be how you beat the best. Along with a great pass rush from your front four.

The Cheifs just have the right ingredients on defense. Late movement can still confuse Josh and they can pressure with just four. On offense Hill, Kelse, and Mahomes are likely all three the best in the league. Hill has to be one of the most dangerious WR's to ever play the game. His stats don't say it yet, maybe never will, but just watching how he moves. You can just see it.

I don’t know when in the last 30 years we have been. People just love the element of weather in Bills games. It’s part of the teams culture IMO. Similar in Green Bay.

I hurt from what I did to myself last night and I can't see my screen very well. Just join the man love for our team.

Perhaps what I like most about this team, while these are professionals, they act like they are playing high school ball together. You don't see this from professional sports teams. I don't recall a former Bills team that ever behaved this way. I feel like a lot of that is Josh being the leader and the process. Josh, just being very laid back, funny, and in the process we only look at higher character people. The MC Hammer video was probably the most clear moment in just seeing it all but if you followed this team all year and listened to the interviews you know it's not lip service. Allen and Diggs seem like they probably have sleep overs building forts, ordering pizza, and playing madden all night. It's a youthful team that has this weird energy to them, almost child like. Has anybody else noticed this as strong as I have? Can you think of an example of any other teams (any sport) where the players have seemed to bond like this?

Ok OP, so awful title. That said, Josh is still more than capable of getting shook or stopped. Certainly by a top defense. That's not an insult. Rodgers went into Tampa this year and got destroyed. What I want to see is high level performance in high stakes games against good teams. We HAVE seen it, but the more we see it, the more likely we are to be a true SB contender. This is the main area I just don't think Allen is at Mahomes level yet. Mahomes is near Brady levels as far as what he will do on the final possession and it not being relevant who the defense is in those moments.

I think what we are seeing is the NFL building offenses that are a better fit for mobile QB's because the hit rate on traditional QB's is so low and the college game is producing a large % of pretty gifted mobile QB's. That said, no matter how much the NFL wants to adjust to the lack of true pocket passers in my opinion those players will always be the hardest to compete against. While you could argue the running QB makes you defend more space that space tends to be lateral or closer to the line of scrimmage. With an elite pocket passer you need to defend that space 15+ yards downfield every play. Again, just more rare. Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, are a few of the names in your post of these type of QB's. As you said, Wilson, sort of, you could say Allen sort of. None of these guys are statues, they just can really threaten you downfield.

Part of the Patriot way requires players to buy in unquestioning, blind, with 100% confidence. That will be a hell of an advantage for any leader to just get blindly. As new players come in, TB, BB, and older players indoctrinated new ones into the culture. All of this was only possible based on what BB and TB created. You had two people at probaly the most important roles/positions in football, perceived as the best ever. Players didn't question it, they bought in without questioning things, by gosh, millionaires playing as one with the perhaps the GOAT QB and a fantastic HC worked rather well. By no means is that type of culture something you can just bring with you. It was built on a history of winning over a long period of time. With how private he is, I doubt BB has done much to share the secrets of X's and O's with assitants. Little Stevie probably gets sent to his room when he steals his notebooks. All this is likely a far cry from the consideration Parcells showed BB when he was learning the job. I think Flores and possibby Crennel can be successfull. Flores, because he seems to be creating his own culture and not trying to replicate one. Crennel because he is a disciple of Parcells and seems to connect well with players (although he has some stains in his past, but then again who doesn't?).

JJ Watt, prior to injury, averaged 17.25 sacks per year as a 3-4 DE. White in the 46 lined up as a DT, not a DE. Bruce averaged .7490 sacks per start during his career and White averaged .8684. Yes, I think a 4-3 DE has a higher likelihood to generate sacks, but I think it's lazy to site that as a main reason to say Bruce was better, which in my opinion, he wasn't. White was a 3-4 DE in it's truest form. He just wasn't played that way. He was played as a DT for Christ sake. His power was better than Smith's speed and his run stopping was also superior. If Watt didn't deal with the injuries he had, he very well could be in this conversation as well.

Great article to sprinkle in with the topic. https://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=weinreb/081006

What I love about Diggs..name his best quality? I don’t think I could. He basically does everything at a high enough level that no singular thing stands out. Complete player.

If we are truly talking most remarkable, that's my vote. Had no meaningful impact, but just that many of us remember a meaningless kickoff return that we never even scored on 15 years ago. I think that says a lot about how incredible the play was.

Prior to the SF game last week, Seattle gave up more yards than any team in NFL history through as many games as they played. That offense has been pretty filthy. That said, like us, the offense has cooled a few times of late and Wilson has made enough mistakes to appear human. Then 17 of the last 24 for Seattle have been one score games. Seattle isn't a team that tends to run people out of the stadium like they did last week. We will be in this game until the end and it will be a toss up. Both QB's have shown to be exceptional closers in the 4th quarter. Probably comes down to who has the ball last.

Slowly, so even the impaired can understand. Not really, they have one win by more than 10 points all year and have beaten mostly cream puffs until the last two weeks. Nobody blows teams out consistently in this league. That said, right now the 5-2 Bucs would like to say hi. Prior to the last two weeks the teams the Steelers have played have a combined record of 13-23.

Not really, they have one win by more than 10 points all year and have beaten mostly cream puffs until the last two weeks. Nobody blows teams out consistently in this league. That said, right now the 5-2 Bucs would like to say hi.

Fair, I'm not 100% riding Josh is a franchise QB. We think he is or might be, certainly the closest thing we have seen to one since Jimbo, but am I willing to say for certain? No. Most of everybody on your list has done nothing more or less than Allen outside of a couple trophies for being good in the regular season. As another pointed out, I wouldn't trade Josh for any of them outside of Mahomes.

We do not have the roster to win a Super Bowl this year. If you look back the last decade, elite QB or elite defense. Then maybe a Philly special once in a blue moon <= Which we do have the potential of having because we can, despite what your eyes tell you, beat anybody, any given Sunday. So is your point just to complain as we keep winning? Which even if lacking true Super Bowl talent, is sort of what you need to do to have any shot at the SB. What would you do with yourself if we weren't winning? So we complain when we win and lose....Just for context I hope you understand the Bills have never won a Super Bowl. So if we complain when we win and lose, might not be very fun existence. FYI, the Bills were a 4 point favorite against the Patriots. We won by 3, shocking outcome. If a subgroup of fans got overzealous from our fast start not having the last 20+ years to warn them never to get overzealous too early, shame on them. Yes, that is what a championship team does. Which we aren't right now, but the Chiefs are, which I said. We just sort of found out this year that we have a Franchise QB. The fact that we are in Josh's 3rd year and are looking like we will likely win the division, which then opens up all sorts of possibilities should be very exciting. It's hard for me to be concerned about something that has never occurred once in our franchises history but your timer for concern is the third year of our QB's lifespan and the first year we can say with a decent amount of confidence he is a franchise QB. Yeesh.

Sorry, not that team yet. Your fault if you made them become that in your mind. Torch the front office because we aren't that team after 3-4 years? Please....Only 1-2 of those teams a year, teams that dominate and consistently win by a TD or more with style point.

I literally directly referenced the Chiefs. Yes, this one game proved that. No way we could beat a meddling potential playoff team like, I don't know, like the Patriots or the Dolphins or the Rams or the......