Mikie2times

Interesting, maybe your definition of "most mock drafts" is based on ? So people are like ? This is all mock drafts and the average grade: https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/ Araiza= Round 3 / 100th Stout= Round 6 / 216th Camarda= Undrafted Also did you know Araiza is an actual football player? Like in high school? He loves the game of football. He's an athlete. So you're saying teams were going to pass on one of the best punting prospects in NFL history because he wasn't a holder before? Despite showing every inclination he had the skills to do it. Oh ya, he could also be your back up kicker. Which most punters can't.

Ya, I'm not ball washing the Bills on this one nor will I break out my pitch fork. This was one of the best punting prospects in NFL history. He had a full write up in SI if teams should ponder going with a #1 to land his elite skills. He ended up being the 3rd punter off the board. Somebody needs to better explain how he ends up being the 3rd punter drafted and it not be a result of teams having awareness of this. Perhaps the Bills truly didn't, perhaps they heard some rumblings and felt it was BS. Anyway you slice it, it felt too good to be true from the start and this isn't the first time I'm saying this. I said it about 5 times now since the draft, just how on earth was he still on the board? This will be my only post on this subject. Onto the regular season.

He's 31 and and has shown a history of extremely physical play. It is more likely than not he peaked or will peak this season, it's also very possible, perhaps even likely, his descent from the mountain will not be slow and graceful. This is a business. I don't find it surprising he was one of the few on outside looking in as far as extensions.

I have lived in the Toledo area 20+ years, keep the handle

I expect Baker to play pretty well. He was hurt last year. Prior, he displayed some positive signs for a young QB and led them to the playoffs. He has a massive chip on his shoulder. Cleveland did not want to find themselves at the end of a contract while not knowing how long or even if they wanted to extend. What if he played decent and takes you to the playoffs again? Do you hitch your wagon even if you aren't 110% sure? You know on Bakers side he would be asking for a mint. Cleveland opted to spend excessive money for a player with the skills they 110% felt were high enough despite the baggage. That's what this was all about. In the end, as much as people hate all that has happened with Watson if he takes Cleveland to a Super Bowl the events over the last year become a footnote. Sad, but that is the state of sports worship. Personally, I think both teams will likely come away fairly happy. That is also a possible outcome in this.

Dumpster fire riddled with Covid, It is a really nice house though.

In high level meetings

Ya, I was just being a smart ass in the other one. I didn't understand why so many seemed negative that we might have landed a steal. I want Elam to be good as well, but when the dust settles it means little as far as draft order. I'll take the cumulative results. We are on the same page.

What are we even talking about? This is like the debates I had with my X. It's no reflection on Elam, minimal on anyone really, as that spot really doesn't hit very often. If he ends up being good Beane and scouting department should get some credit, no? I mean he's from Villanova. It's not like this is the first or even second or even third time we have found a very good player late. In any event, I could care less who becomes "the man". I just want one of them to be good, preferably both.

I really hope Benford doesn't end up being such a steal he makes our #1 look bad. That would be awful. We really have some first world football problems around here.

Only a few backs in the history of this game from the pre 1970's could play in this era. Gale Sayers was likely one of them. Nobody really ran with his acceleration or burst at the time. Next closest I can recall is Lenny Moore, but Sayers was just flat out better. If injuries didn't crush his career he would be considered one of the greatest RB's of all time (if you want to make an argument on this point, understood, plenty of stars had a career end early and did not get the benefit Sayers did).

How can you not like these guys, “you use the brown wash cloth that’s how I know I’m cleaner than you” 😂

I mean, the voting is done by the players, so I guess we can only get so mad. But I think it's just the continued ball wash benefit of the doubt given to that team for so long. Let me simplify my anger towards it. Kyle Pitts is a generational talent. Mike Ditka is the only TE in NFL history to have more yards receiving than Pitts in his rookie year. So by all accounts, he had a generational season at the TE position. That said, Mac Jones ranks higher. I......Just......Can't

Real quick, because like all here, I loved the pick and this punt was something. When the pick was made some people said on the board that the gurus dropped him in the draft rankings because he didn't get punts off very quickly. I guess he uses an additional step some don't? I have no idea if this is true or not. I just know he looked to take awhile before unleashing that rocket. I'm curious if anybody ahs heard any follow up on this topic or of it's just been about if he can learn to hold. Looks to be a steal. Almost too good to be true.

He was an impact player in one of the better defenses in college football. Very workmen like, very football smart. Like most have said, I think we will do everything we can

Buffalo's offense has been completely derailed for long stretches in games at times. Allen and his legs generally being the only savior when this occurs. Our defense has been prone to a bend but don't break style which breaks more as the competition increases and we struggled against power run teams. Our division is unquestionably better and the AFC is insanely deep. I do think we are one of the best teams, if not the best as you forecast out this season. That said, we are everybody's favorite and the reaction in this thread to what Sharp said shows the value from a sports betting perspective. Win or lose, it's unlikely that value exists on this over as everybody is on Buffalo. To take that side, you have to say Vegas just missed on this. Which I don't like to say. The reality is they need to get to 13 wins to cover this bet, that is very difficult. A lot of things need to go correctly for that to happen. I sure as hell hope it does. I can't wager on this, but if this wasn't my team I would fade the public and take the under. I would only play over at 11.5 which I think is the fair total on this. Action sports which offers some really good insights had this to say. I agree with all of it. They actually have 11.5 but -130/-140 for the over. Too steep a tax for me. Buffalo Bills It’s remarkable to see a team with a 11-6 record go 0-5 in one-score games. The Bills could have easily been a 13- or 14-win team if they won a couple of those. The Bills are the No. 1 team in my power ratings and the team to beat in the NFL this season. Buffalo benefited from having the second-best injury luck and the easiest strength of schedule last season, and its depth will be tested more this season against the 11th-toughest schedule. I’m showing some slight value on the Bills to go Under 11.5 wins at +120, but this is a team I’m uninterested in fading. Verdict: Lean Under 11.5 (+120, Caesars)

This is funny. OP wasn't making fun of the guy. It was more of "you wouldn't believe" as in, great story. If some recognizable face picked me up, I would think it's hilarious as well. Probably want a photo. Not because I'm making fun of the guy, because it's a hell of a fun story. That is how I think the OP meant it. No disrespect to the guy. Then other people took it sideways and even more chimed in. Calm down people. If anybody is literally making fun of the guy for what he does as if he's less or basking in his misfortune, you probably live with your mom in the basement and are arguing with your brother about who gets her 25k inheritance.

You never talked crap to your brother? That's how these two are. He knows Stephen is elite. They just had a feature on both of them in SI. Worth the read. https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/07/07/diggs-brothers-stefon-trevon-on-growing-up-together-daily-cover

Some wild responses, but the one that I feel is most accurate is Troy Aikman. Incredible ground game, line, WR's. Very pedestrian stats, even for that era. The SB's are what gave him the perception of a HF QB.

"Over a F'in mountain" Belichick said when asked about Mac's arm strength this coming season

That was arguably the best moment of the draught era (my opinion). To beat New England the way we did. It felt like it was going to turn around that year. TD wasn't awful, it just never came together. He never found his QB and he never combined all the right parts. He could land some talent and pull off some trades though. We have had worse.

I think the way Kyle see's it is he's now got a mobile QB in what is probably the most QB friendly system in the NFL. That said, I think this is a difficult spot. While I agree Jimmy G didn't win many games for the 49ers, he wasn't a guy that was losing many games for them either. Lance could certainly cost them games. We will see how it plays out.

I don't think this video is much, it was a very casual reference, but as one thread pointed out on the Pat McAfee show, the cap isn't real so long as your owner is rich and Terry isn't hurting. I do not recall a player that created such division from the scouts, coaches, media, and fans. All of the former think Edmunds is one of the best MLB's in the game. Throw out the splash play argument and I will say it is hard for us fans to measure what it's like to have a wacky wavy inflatable tube man running in the low 4.5's whose "thick" (maybe not Zach Wilson thick) but this is no small man. Point being, I don't know if a player existed since Brian Urlacher that eliminated such a large throwing space in the middle of the field. If that is all Edmunds does and has zero splash, it still might be enough in a passing league to be considered an elite leader by those who matter (not us).

I’m glad he openly petitioned his fan base discussing his achievements an accolades to the masses as a means to create pressure to get this done. Flop city, that last playoff game told you everything you will ever need to know about him. Bet on him the first 8 games, fade the back.

Giving me 5 is actually very considerate.