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Yes, but what we saw against Baltimore, all man. Try playing us man. Teams just stopped last year and it created a lot of issues for us until we showed we could threaten with the rush as well. Which Josh contributes a heck of a lot with. Tua is not a statue, but they have not established a running game and they will see two high safeties all game against Buffalo. Is Tua patient enough to get 5-8 yards a play? Is he good enough to avoid mistakes when doing so? I don't think that is the case. It doesn't mean Miami isn't a threat. The WR's they have are the best tandem in the NFL, one is a generational talent, and the speed they bring is stunning. That said, we run a defense specifically designed to defend what they do best.

With Russ it's that whole broken play style that made him. He is legitimately one of the best run to throw QB's in NFL history (I think our guy already is better in this area, which for him is just one area of his game). That said, this is really all Russ has ever been. In his 30's now, that style is not going to age well.

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Is this a causation/correlation issue? Teams that are ahead run the ball more. Is this stat more reflective of that or a type of strategy within the game? This has been talked about for a very long time. I just think it’s more of causation issue nowadays. Good teams pass. That seems pretty clear from an observational standpoint.

It felt like late last year that the officials were starting to give Josh the benefit of the doubt. Which is really hard given how physical he is. I don't know that it extended to the rest of the team, but Josh seemed to get a few close ones late last year that we might not have gotten in the past.

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I'm a full timer. My take is the Rams are at somewhat peak value, just given the previous SB. A poor ATS record follows previous SB champions. Which should scream play on Buffalo, that said, we are favorites. I would venture to say, without looking, a road team playing AT the defending SB champion week 1 has been a favorite probably 1-2 times in the last 25 years. It's almost inconceivable. Bills are at peak market value without having exactly established that position. They have been slower to optimize over the past few years. I just see no value in a betting this game as a Bills fan and would much rather enjoy the game and lay my action elsewhere.

I will concede it’s a stretch to label his draft drop as a result of this. I will also say it’s a stretch that everybody knew or that even the Bills knew. I will also say this thread, congratulating how the Bills handled this, is also stretchy. We just don’t know enough. This thread should have never been created.

Interesting, maybe your definition of "most mock drafts" is based on ? So people are like ? This is all mock drafts and the average grade: https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/ Araiza= Round 3 / 100th Stout= Round 6 / 216th Camarda= Undrafted Also did you know Araiza is an actual football player? Like in high school? He loves the game of football. He's an athlete. So you're saying teams were going to pass on one of the best punting prospects in NFL history because he wasn't a holder before? Despite showing every inclination he had the skills to do it. Oh ya, he could also be your back up kicker. Which most punters can't.

Ya, I'm not ball washing the Bills on this one nor will I break out my pitch fork. This was one of the best punting prospects in NFL history. He had a full write up in SI if teams should ponder going with a #1 to land his elite skills. He ended up being the 3rd punter off the board. Somebody needs to better explain how he ends up being the 3rd punter drafted and it not be a result of teams having awareness of this. Perhaps the Bills truly didn't, perhaps they heard some rumblings and felt it was BS. Anyway you slice it, it felt too good to be true from the start and this isn't the first time I'm saying this. I said it about 5 times now since the draft, just how on earth was he still on the board? This will be my only post on this subject. Onto the regular season.

He's 31 and and has shown a history of extremely physical play. It is more likely than not he peaked or will peak this season, it's also very possible, perhaps even likely, his descent from the mountain will not be slow and graceful. This is a business. I don't find it surprising he was one of the few on outside looking in as far as extensions.

I have lived in the Toledo area 20+ years, keep the handle

I expect Baker to play pretty well. He was hurt last year. Prior, he displayed some positive signs for a young QB and led them to the playoffs. He has a massive chip on his shoulder. Cleveland did not want to find themselves at the end of a contract while not knowing how long or even if they wanted to extend. What if he played decent and takes you to the playoffs again? Do you hitch your wagon even if you aren't 110% sure? You know on Bakers side he would be asking for a mint. Cleveland opted to spend excessive money for a player with the skills they 110% felt were high enough despite the baggage. That's what this was all about. In the end, as much as people hate all that has happened with Watson if he takes Cleveland to a Super Bowl the events over the last year become a footnote. Sad, but that is the state of sports worship. Personally, I think both teams will likely come away fairly happy. That is also a possible outcome in this.

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Ya, I was just being a smart ass in the other one. I didn't understand why so many seemed negative that we might have landed a steal. I want Elam to be good as well, but when the dust settles it means little as far as draft order. I'll take the cumulative results. We are on the same page.

What are we even talking about? This is like the debates I had with my X. It's no reflection on Elam, minimal on anyone really, as that spot really doesn't hit very often. If he ends up being good Beane and scouting department should get some credit, no? I mean he's from Villanova. It's not like this is the first or even second or even third time we have found a very good player late. In any event, I could care less who becomes "the man". I just want one of them to be good, preferably both.

I really hope Benford doesn't end up being such a steal he makes our #1 look bad. That would be awful. We really have some first world football problems around here.

Only a few backs in the history of this game from the pre 1970's could play in this era. Gale Sayers was likely one of them. Nobody really ran with his acceleration or burst at the time. Next closest I can recall is Lenny Moore, but Sayers was just flat out better. If injuries didn't crush his career he would be considered one of the greatest RB's of all time (if you want to make an argument on this point, understood, plenty of stars had a career end early and did not get the benefit Sayers did).

How can you not like these guys, “you use the brown wash cloth that’s how I know I’m cleaner than you” 😂

I mean, the voting is done by the players, so I guess we can only get so mad. But I think it's just the continued ball wash benefit of the doubt given to that team for so long. Let me simplify my anger towards it. Kyle Pitts is a generational talent. Mike Ditka is the only TE in NFL history to have more yards receiving than Pitts in his rookie year. So by all accounts, he had a generational season at the TE position. That said, Mac Jones ranks higher. I......Just......Can't

Real quick, because like all here, I loved the pick and this punt was something. When the pick was made some people said on the board that the gurus dropped him in the draft rankings because he didn't get punts off very quickly. I guess he uses an additional step some don't? I have no idea if this is true or not. I just know he looked to take awhile before unleashing that rocket. I'm curious if anybody ahs heard any follow up on this topic or of it's just been about if he can learn to hold. Looks to be a steal. Almost too good to be true.

He was an impact player in one of the better defenses in college football. Very workmen like, very football smart. Like most have said, I think we will do everything we can

Buffalo's offense has been completely derailed for long stretches in games at times. Allen and his legs generally being the only savior when this occurs. Our defense has been prone to a bend but don't break style which breaks more as the competition increases and we struggled against power run teams. Our division is unquestionably better and the AFC is insanely deep. I do think we are one of the best teams, if not the best as you forecast out this season. That said, we are everybody's favorite and the reaction in this thread to what Sharp said shows the value from a sports betting perspective. Win or lose, it's unlikely that value exists on this over as everybody is on Buffalo. To take that side, you have to say Vegas just missed on this. Which I don't like to say. The reality is they need to get to 13 wins to cover this bet, that is very difficult. A lot of things need to go correctly for that to happen. I sure as hell hope it does. I can't wager on this, but if this wasn't my team I would fade the public and take the under. I would only play over at 11.5 which I think is the fair total on this. Action sports which offers some really good insights had this to say. I agree with all of it. They actually have 11.5 but -130/-140 for the over. Too steep a tax for me. Buffalo Bills It’s remarkable to see a team with a 11-6 record go 0-5 in one-score games. The Bills could have easily been a 13- or 14-win team if they won a couple of those. The Bills are the No. 1 team in my power ratings and the team to beat in the NFL this season. Buffalo benefited from having the second-best injury luck and the easiest strength of schedule last season, and its depth will be tested more this season against the 11th-toughest schedule. I’m showing some slight value on the Bills to go Under 11.5 wins at +120, but this is a team I’m uninterested in fading. Verdict: Lean Under 11.5 (+120, Caesars)