Mikie2times

I think the best parents arm children with facts and treat them as smaller adults. If they require some additional guidance so be it. I do not think the negatives of high school football outweigh the positives to the extent parents should treat football like going to Cancun. An overwhelming % of high school players learn invaluable lessons from football. We do not have the ability to quantify the positives and then compare it to CTE risks or something along the lines of plane crash odds. These risks also shift based on socio economic factors (I would think). If we are being logical a kid in the inner city benefits even more than kids in the suburbs (structure/stay out of trouble). Still, for some parents, any increased risk is enough to say no and that's ok as well. This is an emotional question. What is the balancing act of the reward for the addition of X (whatever the benefits are) vs the increased rate of risk of playing a collision based sport .

He still has a shot in this league, but no way is that happening in NY. He would benefit a great deal from being forgotten for awhile, out of the spotlight, as he learns from a veteran presence.

Meh, even if true, debatable.

I just can't get over the connections on this one. The guy who led the biggest comeback in college and pro football history is let go, only for his team to relinquish the greatest comeback in NFL history with a QB who had previously lost the greatest lead in Super Bowl history.

I'm not sure if many of you recall, but what we did a lot with him last year which we have not seen at all this year is quick slants for about 8-10 yards. Allen would almost throw this weird side arm each time, but he connected on it, each time. It was a valuable play for us that didn't require YAC or any route depth but provided value. The other route he ran all the time was a stick/out route on 3rd and less than 5. Again, very rarely had any YAC, any major athleticism, anything overly special, but it was a completion nearly every time. If he gives us those routes back he's worth his weight in gold. Dirty just can't run them, Gabe doesn't have the quicks, I think we all would prefer Diggs getting more depth. He can win on these, just like Josh can win on some deep balls. These guys don't have to be the former version of themselves to be good lands. Not to mention, my god is Buffalo looking good to future players.

You need lubrication

Not nitpicking him, just word choice, flow, cadence, and substance. It's not what it used to be. Very gee golly gosh. At times I have asked if he was intoxicated as so many lines just tapper off or connect together forming a sort of gibberish. It's lazy to me. He's clearly got the ability to be really insightful, I just don't think he puts in the time anymore. I have no other way to describe it. Really, I barely notice these guys and really only noticed heavily based on this thread. Nance is an elite play by play guy. It's enough to plow through, but i wonder if he isn't noticing it as well.

Ya, but don't you think when they invested in a different guy than the one we are seeing right now?

Espenesa is certainly improved. Flashing, no question it's his best year. Also no question even with Von gone, pass rush is better. I would even say significantly better. Von was the icing and damn, having that closer element was awesome but we have been trying to build that unit up for awhile now. I think we are seeing a combination of maturity along with Von's influence. Groot is legit and Epenesa is flashing more. Then Oliver has been borderline dominant at times. This is just three guys in a pretty big rotation.

I didn't unearth the thread to pile on the guy. I remembered seeing this thread and was like ok, lets really tune in on him. It was awkward listening to him. Weird Madden like sounds, tailing dialogue, long pauses. Very little value added. I'm really curious if CBS is seeing it this way or if they're getting negative feedback. I have no horse in the announcer race. This has just been a pretty drastic decline.

Ya, I think this logic is overplayed. We crushed White on clean hits. As we would do any QB, any game. It just happened to be that we landed about four knockout shots and the dude went Rocky mode.

I was pacing out what his production would equal if he didn't miss any time this year. He also matched his total on QB hits for all of last year already this season while missing a huge portion of it.

So I really paid attention this game. WTF happened? He sounds like a teenager calling a game. Random sounds. Awkward pauses. Was it so simple that when you told the guy he can't call the play out he turned straight CTE? I wonder if CBS is getting complaints.

He's pacing for 12 sacks in his 2nd year. He's clearly different physically. His body is just different. He was puppy raw out of college. He sets the edge like defending the run matters just as much as generating sack totals. I think he's closer to elite than you're giving him credit for.

He's like a fly trap. If you get near him it triggers and you're done. I think he's the best pass rush finisher we have right now. Remember, he has been out for awhile. So as Von departs, Groot rejoins the party. It might even end up being a + situation. He's developing so quickly.

7 sacks in 10 starts this season. His length is disruptive. You cant get into his radius and come out ok. He seems to have a really good head on his shoulders. Has said he keeps learning from Von. I wonder how many sacks Von has added by just training with our line? My guess would be at least 5. Groot looks like he will become a force

I haven't felt bad for an opposing QB in 25+ years of being a Bills fan. This reminded me of of Brett Farve in his last NFC championship game vs the Saints. That was the closest thing I remember to compare the level of violence. It was all clean as well. Not even close to one cheap shot. Just vicious body shots. White followed through on everything, even when a 15 MPH linebacker hit him lack a tackle dummy. He should bet he NYJ QB until somebody dethrones him. He was still making plays while all this was happening. How is Zack Wilson ever supposed to earn the teams respect vs what we just saw?

I don’t think I ever felt bad for an opposing QB. Serious respect for White.

Very similar. Great call out.

This is McD's defense, I don't know why people think we would change how we play all that much if Frazier left. Sure McD doesn't call the plays, but the system? That's who he is. It might also be who Frazier is, but either way, it's not one that typically dictates opponent play with pressure. It is more death by a thousand cuts to beat us. Which seems like a style more teams are flashing, especially vs better QB's. It seems to frustrate better QB's when they don't get the chunk plays (sound familiar?). Maybe our system is the best defensive system to play in today's NFL even if I really don't care for it.

He knows his medical status, he acted like a flirtatious 12 year old on social media. Like it was the damn Lebron James signing tour. Months this went on. How didn't he contribute to this d baggery? False advertising and I'm sure some didn't appreciate it.

I'm sure it's among the 100 pages, but Jerry was saying his medical status was in doubt and he might not even be available for the playoffs. I about puked watching the Giants / Cowboys on Turkey day and just washing them wash OBJ's manhood all game replaying his catch and talking about him incessantly. He probably broke his Tivo rewind button and ran out of lubrication. Dude is in his 30's and he doesn't have 1,000 yards combined in his last two seasons. I JUST DON'T GET IT.

Right? Mahomes didn't see Von coming in that game because he was on him before he could react. Unlike last year where he seemed to frolic in circles for 2 minutes eventually alluding our pass rush. Groot was having a dominant season before injury. I hope that was on the back of learning from Von and further maturity. Oliver is having a dominant season. Several others are much improved. I hope it's enough.

Von was never meant for the regular season. He can and will turn it on as he see's fit. He's smart like that because he still has enough in the tank to dominate any play, but he can't do it for a whole game. One thing I can say for sure is if it's 4th down and we are in the Super Bowl and we need one stop to win it, he's the most important player on the team in that moment.