Mikie2times

I’m curious, as the comment wasn’t about Moore. Moore is considered a talented OC by many, but not the guy I want. It’s more about our general approach and ability to bring in a top guy. Which is completely non existent. What scenario would we hire an elite OC or DC or consider allowing that person to have more creative control? The answer is none. It’s none even if we wanted to. If you’re DC for us, you’re running McD’s system only. If you’re an OC, like defense, you won’t fundamentally be allowed to change systems. Continuity matters when you’re the Patriots and you have won X amount of super bowls. It’s not what you sell out for over ability when you can’t get past the divisional round. McD has had odd conclusions with Frazier, Daboll, Dorsey. Either ending disgruntled or with unusual separations. So how would you feel about a HC who may or may not have your back, who you will have limited freedom with? I can literally picture this boss in my civilian life. It’s the worst kind of manager to have. Boxed into how they want things done and criticized or worse if it doesn’t work. Nobody worth a salt is walking into such a situation. So when we look at our team and go where is the growth coming from with X’s and O’s, where is the ingenuity and creativity? The answer is Sean and maybe a little Brady. A guy we should be happy with who was let go by Carolina. I’m sorry but this is just not acceptable. Not for what could be a potentially lead leading offense and a defense that would get us to the Super Bowl if they just figured out how to play Kansas City at an average playoff level. Look what Baltimore did in one year. Complex offensive rebuild. New OC. Creativity. The works. Sean will never so that. We have literally given KC 3 of the top offensive performances they have had in Mahomes era based on EPA. We can’t even play them average. Yup, run it back Sean 👍

I’m pounding the table for an actual coaching search of any kind. But the reality is no top coordinator would work under McD’s thumb.

Dorsey interviewed for a HC role last year. What’s your point? We haven’t hired a defensive coordinator because McD doesn’t trust somebody else to run “his” defense. We will keep Brady because McD has full control over him. We will not be a team that innovates because we won’t provide freedom to coaches to be independent. We will only employ those that will fall in line. It’s like New England but without the success.

It’s weird how other teams can freely hire top talent at the coordinator positions and we have to depend on our HC and the guy behind the OC we fired. Even more weird is how people don’t see this as a problem.

You see the Lions fans feeling exactly how we did in 2019/2020. They finally broke thru. They’re all excited about the possibilities and will be happy win or lose. But like you said, at this point, it’s a Super Bowl or nothing every year for a lot of our outlooks. Which sure, we should have met at least once. But we didn’t and it really leaves us sort of miserable as we go down this journey. This is the most enjoyable period outside maybe the early 90s and sometimes it doesn't feel like it.

He would have taken that job for a ham sandwich

Seeing these names like Jones and Schobel makes me wonder if people even understand what an impact guy looks like. AJ's performance against Jacksonville is what it looks like. A defensive lineman who literally alters the course of game perhaps even multiple times. Schobel had good stats but he's not wrecking a game like that. Probably the last guy who could do it was Mario.

Not watching. Maybe catch the Lions and will watch the Super Bowl.

This sounds an awful lot like the Gabe conversations. Everybody wondered if he was a real #2. People aren't asking these questions if the answer is yes.

He won one more game than Rex Ryan and if his defenses have been so good, why do we spend every offseason complaining that our HOF QB just didn’t have any help. Hint, it’s not because Diggs dropped a bomb.

No offensive guru is working with McD

Why can I only see the middle letters in his name

So is this first person in history to be arrested for illegal online gambling?

Dorsey sneaking in

Glad we didn't draft any WR's.

I agree he is a very solid deep threat. But always having him occupy one of the 11 spots and rarely being utilized kills the offense. It’s like playing with 10 guys.

I said that in 1991. Somebody said the same in 1980. Somebody else said that in 1974. A lot of people died in between saying it.

Josh Allen could take a baseball team to the Super Bowl with a golf club

In the Lions Thanksgiving game we called a cover 0 blitz on 3rd down in a situation where we don't get the ball back if they convert. I'm not always a fan of a cover 0 late like that, but I agree, in that spot we had to force the issue. Which we did. Then we got the ball back and ran a full court press vs sitting on it. Allen connected on about a 40 yard rope and we walked it off.

Who would ever consider hiring a defensive coordinator with with moderate success to be a HC in todays NFL?

Who calls people son? You place your own theory on why the numbers are the way they're as if your theory matters. I just posted numbers which you don't have to interpret.

Run it back

Will an elite offensive coordinator want to work with him? Would an elite defensive coordinator want to work with him? The answer is an emphatic no on both accounts. The best leaders empower the people who directly manage to be the best so they can keep a 20,000 foot view everything else. McD is living at 500 feet. While some say he pays attention to the details I say he's blinded by them. That Dunne article was on point about several things it was just garbage that distracted from what those were.

Historically I have not felt Allen was at the level most here did. Which for most on here is ahead of Mahomes. He's just so unorthodox. So I sort of got tired debating the nuances of what I feel he could do better vs just enjoying him and the team.