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I mean he was incompetent in being a president shouldn’t we expect him to be incompetent in doing a coup? He did get his ass kicked a ton in court about it

1) they’re not announcing a criminal investigation is a major thing. People go to jail. People do hard time as they should because they commit criminal acts. 2) sham impeachment - laughable. Name another impeachment that had as much cross party support as trumps first or second impeachment. 3) 5 people were killed that day. More than Benghazi The little people are just dumb asses. We saw it here. They thought they were the silent majority. They weren’t silent and you’re not the majority. Then they were lied to that vote was stolen. It wasn’t. In 2016 did you see Dems storm the Capitol looking to go after the VP and other high ranking Republicans? No because they were not looking to over throw the government. In the end these people tried to overtake a building with several lines of US political succession while having things like nooses outside the building, zip ties on them, etc.

More than 400 people charged in more than 40 states. More people dead than in Benghazi. You can say there is no serious charge but maybe say that to the over 400 people that are going to be waking up in a prison in the near future. Yes, with over 400 people you need to toss in jail, you plead down for the low level drones. Get quotes like hey we did this on Trumps orders. You do a commission to go after the high level circus leaders.

You still didn’t answer

You just used a lot of words and said nothing.

Sometimes you go for the easy conviction to get the person off the streets. Trumps words that did hours before the insurrection: 'If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore' We are going to the Capitol' Et all. You can read the transcript for yourself. We had a live talk about the speech here on this board. I said while Trump was speaking he’s going to get someone killed on this board. Unfortunately I was right. Unfortunately, I was wrong and it wasn’t one person it was many. id glad you are ignoring finally how dumb your whataboutism argument is. I’ll take that as personal growth from you.

You can have an insurrection without a clear cut leader. Who was the leader when the Bastille was stormed? And we do have a ring leader, the guy who brought all the people together and said he would storm the Capitol with them. Past presidents have an untouchableness to them. Republicans trying to get Obama for something would have political consequences. you’re in the other thread so you do know Trump is under criminal investigation right now and even that has political ramifications.

We’re still waiting for Trumps health care plan

DOJ and FBI have been arresting people like crazy for trying to over throw the government. What about the people that helped them that could be politically untouchable or harder to get to for those agencies? Yes Congress should. Congress has an investigatory function let them use it. Let the Dems use that power just like the Republicans used it for Benghazi. Let all the dirty laundry for these Republicans that aided and abetted such a National travesty to hang bare. Nothing to substantiate the claims! Hundreds of arrests have been made. Hundreds of stupid Trumptards are going to jail. You said why don’t you ask the people there. They did ask the people there and those people said they felt they were directed by Trump. Trump literally said he would march with them to Congress (he didn’t because he only cares about himself and was willing to risk his followers over himself).

You stated you don’t care about the insurrection. Maybe you do care if you’re posting here with this idiotic spew? From the Trump v Vance post: “I don’t care about 1/6.” Why you posting in a thread about the insurrection if you don’t care? We’re you lying them or now? Or just say the phrase “I, SCBills am a hypocrite”

They did ask them. The prior poster posted what they said, that they did it under Trumps orders. You laughed it off. So do you want the people who entered the capitol to answer or no?

-Foreign wars - that’s probably a definition thing but don’t forget about the MOAB with trump. Don’t forget about terrible positions his foreign policy left us in like pissing off foreign allies and becoming a literal laughing stock to foreign leaders. - Business owner opinion - Hopefully you didn’t take PPP 2 or any future ERC. Stay away from EIDL grants too. Dems have passed bigger tax cuts for businesses ever needed that the Republicans refused to pass or had to negotiate in. - Point to one Dem proposal or law anywhere that is pro anytime anywhere. - Maybe if the Republicans updated their platform to include I don’t know the biggest human thing going on there could be an actual COVID argument there. But there is not. Biden admin has dumped restrictions. Maybe if Republicans made this a policy stand point we could have months ago. CRT isn’t bad. You listen too too much right wing poop. To your last point on voting. I’d ask, no beg, look at platforms. One party this last election thought it wasn’t important to. And you still voted for it. Look at which you are as a person. If you are cool with no positions then vote R. If you’re cool with investigating Benghazi not not 1/6 vote R. If you’re cool with the idea of birthing a kid then not caring about them . Vote R.

You said what you are. You said you voted Trump for President. You voted for a person who didn’t have a platform. You voted for no position. You voted for no idea. or you could correct me and point to the Republican platform statement for which parts you were like yes, I need to vote for that.

You do realize Republicans forced that right? They took the opinion of delay the impeachment until after Trump is out of office then said wait you can’t impeach he’s out of office. You also realize the vote on impeachment was a Trump centric vote. It wasn’t against anyone else that was involved. “As for Benghazi the investigations was necessary because the president spent a week lying about what happened after allowing American citizens die he could easily have helped” As for the insurrection, the investigation is necessary because the president is spending months lying about what happened after allowing American citizen die he could have easily helped. Like really, Trump could have not lied about the election, no one dies 1/6. Trump could have came out hours earlier and said back down. No one died 1/6. Trump could have done a ton more than Obama could have for Benghazi and less people died in Benghazi than the insurrection.

Yea like the convicted murder Derek Chauvin! Oh wait no, he murdered a black man while being a cop. Since he was convicted does that make the outrage justified enough for you?

To address your points: - You voted for Trump because he has an R next to his name. It doesn’t matter what anyone does as long as they have an R next to their name. I’d guess you also voted for Collins even after his legal issues. Being devoted to Trump is bad. Being devoted to an R next to a name is probably worse. - Corporations - Rs slashed corporate tax rate to a flat 21 percent which increased the tax rate for small C Corps while significantly dropping it for other corps - authoritarianism - there’s one party that has an express position that wants to tell women what to do with their body. I can’t think of a D position that is that authoritarianism - Don’t care about the insurrection - that’s sad. It’s a major event in US history. You can ignore it and not care about it. But it happened. It was a terrible thing. It was worse than Benghazi so let’s investigate it just as much as Benghazi. - We have issues but I find it hard to point to a single policy position or law passed that caused it or made a situation worse. - Let’s not forget. Republicans didn’t announce a platform for 2020. So if you voted R you voted for Trump because they literally didn’t run on anything.

I wish cops stopped killing black people at a greater proportion than they kill other races. Really maybe just wish cops stopped killing people. But as the song Trump got a cease and desist letter for using at campaign events: we can’t always get what we want. Republicans spent 2.5 investigating Benghazi only to hurt Hilary. We can spend a couple months investigating things like how did these people get such easy access, how did they get so upset, etc.

The Trump org has already admitted guilt to financial crimes with charities and had to pay over $2 million while admitting guilt. Y’all Trumpards didn’t care and still voted for him. It doesn’t matter what comes of this. You’d still vote for him.

No Im arguing let’s take care of the kids/people that actually are born over the unborn. If you can’t take care of those actually living then why care about if they’re born or not? And really we can make this issue moot by teaching things and promoting things like birth control in schools which has statistically proven to lower the birth rate. Yet the Republican Party has been against that for religious reasons. If they were really pro- life, then it should start with sex Ed. Name one situation in life where ones liberty doesn’t infringe on another’s

Let’s break this down: Guns - no ones taking your guns suburbs - no ones changing the suburbs crime - Mixed bag godless - who cares . And democrats do the same... Jim Crow - entire racists are being denied their liberty kind of a big deal trans rights - an entire group of people are being denied liberty kind of a big deal evil corporations - this is kind of a Republican thing now that they want to boycott everyone like MLB and social media climate - we could have crazy weather and untold deaths that we have seen, kind of a big deal to break that down: Republicans want fear on things that aren’t really a big thing unless you subscribe to maybe a white leaning group. Dems want to make sure people’s liberties are upheld and we don’t have more climate catastrophes

so you’re saying your idea of Republican policy has an underlying fallacy, that individual liberty is always stopped by the liberties of others. Ill quote you since it’s so rare you give an actual opinion a quoting a random webpage “The God given, say nature given if you would rather, LIBERTY of the INDIVIDUAL.” Here you just admit that the liberty of the individual will coincide with the liberty of other individuals. In a society, the liberty of the individual doesn’t exist. There’s always implications and limits on ones liberty as not to impact another’s liberty. As a pro- life person wouldn’t you agree it’s best to put a child’s position in the best circumstances to succeed? Or are you reverting to pro-birth let them be born and then let them pull themselves up by the bootstraps? I don’t know if you’re a parent or not, but if you had a kid and had a chance to offer them a better life or maybe a life where they would live longer, wouldn’t you give do what you could to give it to them?

That’s what I’m saying. If you think abortion is murdering a baby then I see nothing wrong with you voting against that no matter what (even if you vote for a guy that talks about sexual assault such babies when they’re grown).

If you believe abortion is murder no one will fault you for voting Republican. Like the Q stuff, if you actually think Dems are selling kids off for child slaves (or whatever Qs think) then yes that’s a good position to take based on your ideas on the subject. Agree on guns. It’s dumb. Dems aren’t taking guns. Republicans like making it an add. Dumb people fall for it (less educated people do lean R recently) What numbers do you find between Biden and Trump concerning the First 100 days? Like specific numbers. Theres no Maoist push by Dems. Dems if anything are leveraging capitalism to have a greater sway. Think of it this way. If there’s 100 people that will buy your product. 60 of them will line your idea. 40 of them will not. Who will you market to, the 60 people or the 40?

-Pro-birth/pro-choice will always be a split if there’s strong feelings on way or the other. If a person is so strong pro-birth they’d be okay with a candidate that says he would grab a person who was born by the *****. Because the opposite (killing a fetus) is too terrible not to vote for. One interesting question would be where would that tipping point be for a pro-birth person to have a candidate that was so reprehensible to switch to a pro-choice candidate. - Dems say stupid things about guns. I like guns. But they come off like idiots some times. Yet the fear is Dems will take your guns. They ran against Biden on that. Is their position pro-gun or Dems will take your guns? - What Biden positions have changed on border security? Dems are mad on how he’s handled families in cages. But what official Biden position has caused you concerned? As pro-birth, I assume you were appalled at separating families that was around during the a Trump admin. Surely you spoke out about that. - What you listed both parties do. In this country Dems are the majority so its more apparent that the majority gets it way in capitalistic society. A women wants to get an abortion shortly after finding out about pregnancy. Isn’t the Republican position to limit her liberty? A major league sport decides they don’t like a stance by a political party. Isn’t it limiting liberty by saying to boycott the sport when they decide to love their all star game to a different place? You may also want to tone up on philosophical thought like the social social contract. Edit: wanted to add gay marriage. Republicans we support liberty but we can tell you who you can or can’t marry

I mean one of the right wing leaning people could have provided something. @SCBillsdid a good job line 7 pages in!