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We’re using S Leh-Nerds definition of guilty: “Democrat Governor on NY runs a prostitution game from the state capitol where he participates in sex trafficking and all that comes with it, no charges filed. “ More proof against Gaetz than this. It’s hard in the US with standard of proof. We have actual law and then we have crazy Republican law. So I was applying crazy Republican law standard of evidence to Gaetz.

I apologize, Leh-Nerd has tried to detract the thread and go away from the multiple criminal charges 1/6th in the the NY grand jury trial while defending sex traffickers and tax evaders. We will move this discussion to a specific Leh-Nerds biased opinions thread if he continues to go off topic. please go back on topic of this American horror show.

You’ve defended a sex trafficker. Trumps non-for-profit has had written confessions to improper expenditures. Now another Trump Org had tax evasion charges. This is in addition to a campaign manager in jail for tax evasion, another campaign manager going to jail for terrible things, the personal attorney going to jail for illegal activity, the well you get the point. Make jokes all you want with gifs. You’re the one defending people who have done terrible things and the only reason you defend them is because they have a (R) next to their name. So yea. I don’t know. You do you! Defend the sex traffickers more if that’s what makes you feel good! Justify rich people evading taxes! You do you!

Let’s not deflect from this topic. Main points now is 1/6th into the grand jury we have indictments against the CFO of Trump Org and indictments against the Corp itself. These same people ran a non-for-profit that got in serious trouble for buying a Tim Tebow jersey among other illegal use of non-profit funds

What’s boring to you is the many Republicans you seem to unjustifiably worship spend tonight in jail. Right? Let’s add again you had some weird spam about sex trafficking in a thread about tax evasion while defending a sexual trafficker in the Gaetz thread.

Deflection at its finest. Do you need a link to the Gaetz thread to see you defend a sex trafficker? But that’s getting off the point. I will just leave this with your quote about yourself “nor do I know anything “

I don’t get the point of this reply. Hes rich so it’s ok that he evaded close to a million in taxes? Like are you defending a tax evader? And your point seems to be he has that money in his cushions so it’s cool. What are your feelings about poor people abusing day food stamps? Is that terrible? Cuz I guarantee 1 person abusing food stamps doesn’t cost America’s as close to this man abusing the tax law.

I think this point is a really interesting one. A lot of Trump supporters seem to like him because he will get rid of corruption. However, it seems everyone under him is just beaming with corruption. Has any President had this many people in his orbit in jail before? Several campaign managers, personal attorney, etc.

Masks and hand sanitizer fall under the de mininus fringe benefit rule. How many masks would you need to take to make up for the $1.7 million in untaxed benefits illegally obtained here? You make it seem like an either or determination. There’s legal methods to go after sex traffickers. Just go to the Matt Gaetz thread where you defend sex trafficker Matt Gaetz. The legal process is currently doing their investigation on his sex trafficking. The process was started under a Republican President. If such sex trafficking you accuse is happening in NY they too can be prosecuted at the same time Trumps disciples go to jail for things like tax fraud. There is nothing this investigation is doing that takes away from other people going after sex criminals.

I think the big thing that you’re missing is we’re only 1 month into a 6 month grand jury. Grand jury was convened late May. “The panel was convened recently and will sit three days a week for six months.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-investigation-grand-jury/2021/05/25/5f47911c-bcca-11eb-83e3-0ca705a96ba4_story.html We’re 1/6th of the way through the criminal investigation. The Trump Org and their CFO has already been indicted. What indictments will come in the other 5/6ths of the grand jury? The indictment alone should cripple the Trump Org. Banks won’t lend money to an indicted company. $1.7 million dollars of unreported income is not purely civil. At the IRS $14,000 of unreported income at SBSE requires a manager conference on possible Criminal Investigations referral. In addition, Leona Helmsley saw criminal prosecution for fringe benefits where she tried having her company pay for home renovations. Trump himself even called her a tax fraud for it and I quote “disgrace to humanity.”

That’s false. For example, Companies that received PPP funds and an employee chose not to come back needed to inform unemployment the person refused to come back in order to kick them off unemployment for one or that person would hurt their FTE ratio for forgiveness. In addition, I think what we’re seeing is more of a shift in the lower wage job seekers. Why should these people risk their lives in a pandemic for a wage that isn’t enough to live? I think one good thing from the pandemic may be a shift in what employees will accept in wages. We will have a better idea on that when we get some data of the red states that cut unemployment vs blue states that kept it and how the labor force reacts. Businesses not paying enough is literally having the government subsidize lifestyles (except probably worse that how you’re viewing it). Say owner X pays a wage of $10 an hour to employees and he nets $200,000 a year. If he pays $15 an hour he would only net $100,000 a year, but paying $15 an hour means all his employees wouldn’t need food stamps. The government is allowing him to pay a wage of $10 an hour and he knows the government will kick in extra compensation with food stamps. That allows him to have $200,000 instead of $100,000. So your tax money is going to him getting an extra $100,000 a year. let’s flip that and pay $15 an hour. At $15 an hour his employees don’t need food stamps so $0 of your tax money go to them getting food stamps. But business owner now only gets $100,000. He’s still pretty well and but he is not getting an advantage from using your tax money. So really food stamps and such actually allow businesses to be more profitable because it allows businesses to provide lower wages.

Isn’t that kind of what is happening in our economy right now? All the crap jobs that don’t pay enough, no one is applying for and there is a major labor shortage? Again, tell me why should the government subsidize businesses with government handouts like food stamps? For example, X place of business needs to hire someone at $10 an hour. Without the ability to hire someone at $10 an hour, the business would not be profitable. However, for someone to take a job at $10 an hour they need food stamps in order to live. So, the business is only able to survive because they can hire people at a reduced wage because that person can get food stamps to survive. In an ideal world, we have an increase in minimum wage. We will see businesses go under that can’t support themselves without government subsidized labor, we see less people on the government dependence and we decrease taxes due to that.

so you’re mad a business decides who can or cannot use their services? Isn’t that pretty socialist? You want the government to step in and say hey let these people spread their lies? Fauci isn’t an elected official. He was handcuffed by Trump. I don’t see how anyone can be mad about the job he did. It sucks we had so many people die. We had people here think that people being depressed would lead to more deaths than the virus. They were/are dumbasses. I think if anything this has setup the battle on climate change. We know now we have 30 percent of the US population that are idiots. We have several of them here. But now we know if you throw 500,000 deaths in their face they will still will ignore it.

You’re probably drunk or just a dumbass. I don’t know if you know how to read or have comprehension on your reading ability but your take makes me think you’re illiterate. Adding ***** jobs isn’t a good thing. Hey we would employee X amount of people, yet we won’t pay them a wage to support where they live so they need to feast on the government teet. Like are you an idiot? If you’re a Republican you’d support AOC here. Why bring in jobs and people where they will need more government support because a company can’t function without the government subsiding employees?

Dude. Just admit you don’t know how to read and move on. In the same thread post she said her abuela was fine. Just admit you didn’t read the initial posts, you jumped on a story that was really purely propaganda and you fell for it. She called out how Trump admin saw funds go to Trump people. It’s probably the lasting legacy of Trump is Americans hard earned money going to Trump/Trump people. Why not call for an audit on how the funds were used? Don’t forget this was a President that thought it was ok to use a non-for-profits funds to buy Tim Tebow crap and then was told he can’t have an NFP anymore. Youngest female congressman is pretty hard to top. Add on her gigantic social media following , I’d say there’s probably not many people in the US who could top her resume.

So it’s kind of like science where the original hypothesis is incorrect so you adjust. Except unlike science Fauci had to deal with science and political pressures as well. How many less deaths would there have been if Fauci said from day 1 it came from a Chinese lab? Is Paul’s (or insert random random name here’s) friend that died from COVID alive today if Fauci said China started the virus? Fauci is a scientist that never in his life expected to be thrust in a political role. If we weren’t in the era of Trump his job wouldn’t have been a political role either.

You’re not a spammer like bman... but I don’t see how that video matches your title.

I did. You posted a video with no comment or anything on your opinion. I can post a video of I Love Lucy where Lucy Ball can’t keep up with chocolate in a chocolate factory. Why did I post it? Who knows if I post a random video with no context.

Why accept it?

Thanks for explaining your white privilege!

To be fair, the OP didn’t really define the topic of the thread. They just posted a YouTube video with no comments or anything... let’s see who was the OP... ohhh

She’s doing upsetting right wing people pretty well as evidenced by this thread. she has a better resume than anyone here. This thread was started by an idiot that didn’t even ready the posts that started this entire thing. So on this thread let’s all back off AOC say the OP is wrong and doesn’t have any reading comprehension. We can do a new thread about how AOC sucks.

697 bills she’s sponsored or co-sponsored: https://www.congress.gov/member/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/O000172?searchResultViewType=expanded Getting the Green New Deal started. Hate for her has filled millions of hours on Fox News and other right wing propaganda outlets. Youngest woman to serve in Congress. Organized fund raisers and food drivers to bail out the Republican Texans during their power outage stemming from Republican policies.

Where is the lie? These are her tweets from June 2nd on it. She even said her abuela was fine in those tweets!: Just over a week ago, my abuela fell ill. I went to Puerto Rico to see her- my 1st time in a year+ bc of COVID. This is her home. Hurricane María relief hasn’t arrived. Trump blocked relief $ for PR. People are being forced to flee ancestral homes, & developers are taking them. We immediately got to work reaching out to community advocates and leaders and following the money. What’s happening to Puerto Ricans is systemic. Much of it can be traced to La Junta, aka the Wall Street-connected fiscal control board that the US gave power to over the island. In the aftermath of María, the Trump admin oversaw two key items: handing millions in public $ to unqualified donor pals (ex Whitefish). The other was to impose extremely difficult eligibility rules for Puerto Ricans, which allowed mass rejections of recovery fund applications. I want to be clear - while Trump admin had a major role, it wasn’t just them. La Junta, local policies, etc were all on the same page: policies that pushed out local families. To turn this around, we need audits & get recovery relief to people ASAP, without the onerous strings. And for the record - my abuela is doing okay. It’s not about us, but about what’s happening to Puerto Rican’s across the island. She had a place to go to and be cared for - what about the thousands of people who don’t?

Is it great? People are living I terrible conditions from the storm. The same storm that Trump used as a photo op. AOC has money. Her abuela is fine. She has said as much. It’s not about her abuela needing help but all the other parts of the country needing help. Some right wing idiot makes a GoFundMe to troll AOC. If AOC accepts the money, her abuelas home is better (again not needed as AOC said she’s fine) but what about the rest of Puerto Rico? It’s sad how dumb the right has become.