Say When...

hyphenated last name - has his penis removed @ birth.

if there's anyone on this planet that deserves to be told to go F themselves, it's this dude, seriously top 10 most punchable face. i especially liked the "and he's not dinking and dunking the ball" like it's a bad thing, hello... they probably have the Tom Brady holding a goat picture on the ceiling above their beds.

you get the feeling that right now there isn't anything the Dolphins can do to make people think they are headed down the right path... and then they go and do this.

Tunsil was perplexing but the Minkah trade made zero sense to me, essentially they gain nothing as they still have a need at the position

wasn't there some comment about him B & M'ing about the training facilities?

struggled to find a pic of sexual assault?

and what lends to the "we need to be really cautious about this game" bravado? we were 6-10 last year so one of the worst teams in the NFL 11+ net new starters (majority from the bad side: Offense, and more returned starters from the good side: Defense) from last year so not even close to the same team we were considered one of the worst teams to start this year we beat the first team as a unanimous underdog, regardless of how, we beat them message then was "it's early in the season and teams are still figuring things out" we took care of business against a second team we were BARELY the favorite message now is "they were a bad team" regardless of the above statement of "it's early, teams are still figuring themselves out" the FO is in it's 3rd year and it's obvious it's gaining it's stride, we're seeing things that GOOD organizations do and it feels almost unnatural look - i'm not arguing with you and i really think it's just BBFS but there is so much different this year that it's probably just best to live in the moment, anything that happened before the 2019 season has no relevance. do you think Bills Fans know how to handle success? a good coach? FO? solid QB? offensive and defensive systems that dictate strategy? it's kinda awkward for me but i'm learning to accept it.

i'm not sure we're being realistic here when 30 other teams would struggle in the same circumstance. I dare say most would lose, if not all. besides - if we managed to beat them the message would be "Pats*** are still the better team, they just had an off day" the true test/barometer is to exceed expectations and that, apparently, is different person by person; i'd like to see stability, consistency and more wins than losses. for me the expectations rise next year.

and there a few examples of 'average' QB's winning the SB; Dilfer, Johnson, Rypien... wasn't Roethlisberger's first SB year mediocre from the stat perspective? the "Bus Superbowl" was the worst stats for a winning QB in history? i'm going to say wins and contribution and the rest will fall in line; do your job as the coaches dictate, sprinkle in talent and ability and help your team win from your position.

wait, how can you retire from something you're not apart of? or is it: should he retire from having his agent hound various NFL teams for an opportunity then blasting it out to the media? i'd love to say: I'm going to retire as CEO of Amazon but it's meaningless because i'm not the CEO nor do i work for them. anyway, this thread is like ***** with sandpaper, curiously enticing but destructive regardless of the outcome.

B I N G O... he stands to gain more as a martyr than anything else, besides, look how easy it is.

i know the answer to this but i'm going to play devil's advocate: Why is our benchmark the best team in football when it isn't for the other AFC teams? why is there a demand we got 11-0 before we get any respect when some 1-1 and 0-2 teams are being given credit over us? when you bring in 10 new starters on offense, a 2 y/o front office why is history such a factor? and i could argue other teams are not being held to the same standards. AFC teams around us are getting weaker or struggling so why wouldn't that elevate the Bills in principal? why must it be "we're nothing until we beat the Pats***"? As much as i hate to say it but we don't get a win from either game w/ the Pats*** and i think that's a common understanding but i don't think it takes away from how good this team is and will be and I think our benchmark should be something more realistic than "you've played a bunch of scrub teams and can't beat the Pats***, you suck as always".

Thank you for everything Eli...

getting back to the topic, did anyone hear what was said? can someone give us the skinny?

so in other words we just beat 2 foreseeable winless teams that both were originally projected to beat us. we're damned if we do and damned if we don't

or DISassembled...

holy crap - Pats*** -17.5 to the Jets? Dallas is -20.5 to the fins lol, thats... just.... lol...

Who the heck is Beaser?

you forgot 2/3rds of the defintion, cherry pick much? Ma·fi·a /ˈmäfēə/ Learn to pronounce noun an organized international body of criminals, operating originally in Sicily and now especially in Italy and the US and having a complex and ruthless behavioral code. any organized group using extortion and other criminal methods. noun: mafia; plural noun: mafias a closed group of people in a particular field, having a controlling influence. noun: mafia "the conservative top tennis mafia"

am i the only one that dislikes the use of the word 'mafia' in this regard? the "OG" stuff has got to go. now i don't expect us to be Downton Abbey civilized but naming the fan base after a group that was known for organized crime, murder, extortion and whatever else i can think of just makes me think... Raiders fans and i'm not sure that who we want to emulate (after living in Los Angeles for 18 years, i got the FULL experience). don't get me wrong, i got much props and love to our fan base and it gives me chills to see the sea of red/blue, the Mafia thing is just old and tired.