MasterStrategist

Don't forget that Dawson Knox is plenty athletic. Just not as fluid/quick as Dalton

Take the non- head cases off the list: Sanders and Wallace Add: Diontae Johnson and Martavius Bryant I'd add Plaxico didn't shake up the locker room, like Brown or Pickens. Steelers find talent, gotta give them thag, but they're the "all about me" WRs. Growing list recently. And their pick from Michigan LY, was just flat out lazy putting in the mental work.

In that case, its a no brainer to me. Injuries happen at camp. Gabe at that price, even with his faults, is worth it.

He's not really a fit for what we're trying to be in the WR room --- "positionless". But he'd be our best blocking WR and a downfield threat still- at $6m or less its worth a shot

<1% chance he's traded IMO. Just from some media/close friends to the team here in Pitt

Pickens wore out his welcome LY, with all his crazy and antics. This trade has been in the works for a while, hence the DK trade. Rodgers or not, Pickens was 1 foot out the door. Steelers would be better off tanking and finding a legit young QB.

No stunt, genuine emotion from Beane - dude has a proven track record, who these 2 radio jocks again? Bills put this in the embedded, because Beane got ALOT of national media praise for handling like he did, and put these clowns in their place. Bills gonna support their GM, and how he handled himself - which is why they cut up so many national pundit takes on how good it was handled and we just don't see that competitive side of Beane come out in raw emotion like this much. Bills aren't about putting out a stunt/show of things- just digging for some explanation, when the most logical and simple one is that Beane is fed up of getting questioned about the WR room- when big picture is about scoring points, not how many TDs do your WRs account for.

Lol...id say that part is also justified....73% FG, 11-19 on 40 yards+. Ouch...

Nothing wrong with hoping. I think he lacks the strength to win the way he did in college, at thr NFL level. That said, he'll develop and think our offseason coaching additions were geared toward knowing we'd attack DL and secondary in the draft. I'm keep expectations at a reasonable level, it's the crazy expectations that fans set that get people fired up when said Player needs more development after year 1. We've seen that story on here ALOT....zero patience, set super high expectations immediately: Bernard, Cook, Shakir, Coleman and Kincaid will be the next to take a huge leap

I'd add strength at the catch point, to your list above, and strength playing through DB contact. Based on what I've seen, that will show itself at camp immediately. That and more quickness/explosiveness in his route "breaks". To my first point above, I saw him progressing nicely on that, then he got hurt and after his injury, he lost all that physicality. That's going to be how he wins. You said it last pre draft, and I agreed with it, that some players separate due to speed and/or route running ability. Coleman will separate with physicality through DB contact and through his breaks. Can't wait for camp. This is going to be another Cook year 1 to year 2, type of progression.

I think it is a similar player....Samuel would carry a net $3m deap cap....highly unlikely he's let go.

Don't tell this to @GASabresIUFan....I've heard QB play is the differnce. All seriousness, I agree that WR production is usually system/fit/opportunity, and having a bad QB isn't going to swing the needle much. Especially for a slot WR, who does a majority of work underneath...it's a bit different for a boundary WR IMO. Moore is good depth for Shakir, when Khalil is out this offense loses ALOT. I'd trust Moore to step in, and hopefully he can add additional value in the return game (so Codrington has competition/potentially frees up a roster spot). This is a better Kj Hamler depth guy IMO

We shall see. I do know Coleman has got quicker/and alot stronger this offseason. I know someone close to his camp, he's put on 5+ lbs of muscle and has looked alot more agile according to him. Josh raves about his athletic ability and time to just get acclimated to the offense/NFl, being a very young prospect still. We always have alot of tight formations/splits, it's similar to Rams and others. I don't think that's specific to Keon or in any way, depicts his usage. They plan to have him as their alpha outside, if he hits his potential is another thing altogether

I'd disagree on the 1st part with Keon. We used him plenty outside, finished with an ADOT 15.2 yards (higher than Coop) and was used in plenty of back shoulder/50-50 type passes. He's also good on those deep over routes of using his build up speed/out leveraging others. Honestly this slot discussion- do we have stats on snaps from slot vs outside, and his production/route tree from each? He's better outside IMO, which is where my eyes tell me he got most of his work and success LY (without looking at stats).

Good conversation here. #3- It boils down to Beane thinking he has 2 vertical threats and that this offense isn't built on that aspect. Additional point, Beane sees a young core and wants that group to develop to see what he has. Shakir, Palmer (more proven commodities), then Keon and I'd Kincaid. I'm not sure Beane sees a path for our WR5 to get significant snaps barring injury. And they might like Shavers in that role. Not like our Wr5, on a game to game basis, contributed much LY. I think most importantly, I trust Beane with roster construction and evaluation- if he's not seeing a developmental guy, then I trust he made the correct decision. As you said, he's had a keen eye for those 4th-5th round underrated types...it's better not to force a pick for the sake of taking a WR. Royals was clearly the one standing out in R4, we will see if that haunts Beane in the future. And there were others, as you mentioned such as Horton. But it's quite possible those pre draft visits confirmed Beane wasn't as interested --- Troy Franklin/others come to mind in past years. If you're low on Keon, I can see your concern. That's a big piece to the puzzle this season. Im on the other hand, very optimistic about him and also Kincaid. Keon isn't going to be a speedster all of a sudden, but I believe his physicality will improve in a NFL offseason program and he'll bring more consistency/improvement in that area which is where he'll "win" routes. We shall see, but a strict vertical threat developmental guy - isn't that what we took in R7? Beane had a plan, if he misses then we criticize. Criticizing in advance seems fruitless, especially coming off a dynamic offensive season - and Beane is quick to course correct if needed (ie: Cooper trade/making a trade to improve an area of weakness)