IndyJay1234

That need being EVERYTHING!! I guess that is similar.

So when the line as a whole gives up a ton more sacks this coming year compared to last year that wont be because Peters was traded right??

I understand your point of view. I really do. But at one point does the front office take blame for the continual replacing of players because of so called attitudes. We draft Willis and he needs to be replaced because of his attitude. We draft Marshawn and as good as a back as I believe he is at one point do we close the book on him and draft his replacement before we should need to because of his mistakes. Football character. A friend of mine works at Reebok and is close with a number of personnel people include Scott Piolia. It is late and I cant spell so forgive me. But when he was with the Patriots one of the nuggets he gave my friend was we draft people that love to play football not people that love the trappings of football and everything that comes along with being a professional athlete. I find that the Bills do not follow this premise. It bears out over and over. Mike Williams.... read Russ Tuckers article. McCargo... lazy.. Who is doing the research... Peters. Willis.. The list goes on and on.. We make zero progress and replace and then somehow are surprised when we go 7-9 for the 6th time in a row or whatever. When will they learn. Listen I am a huge Bills fan. Watching Indy win the Superbowl was great as I am a season ticket holder but it will not be the same until the Bills win it. And I just dont see how we will ever get close until we change something in our philosophy.. Because it is broken.

Like who? Who is good that every team has not signed up until now that we can splash money on. No one. This is the problem as I see it. We now have to use the 11 to hopefully replace what we just traded. So we basically got rid of someone that our wonderkid GM couldnt handle. Ohhh contract negotiations were going to drag out. Fine. Peters wont show up. Fine. He will have a sub par year. Fine. Good luck getting a big league contract after 3 years of pulling this sh-- Jason Peters. By then he would have been 29. 3 years of sh--.. At somepoint Peters would have had to break down and play ball. So we now have the 28th pick to address the needs that we could have addressed at 11. Brilliant. But thank God we saved Ralphy boys money. Saving Bills Cap money like it effects our personal credit score. YEAH!!! This is the problem every year. Willis is the wrong RB. So we trade him for a couple of 3rds and draft MArshawn. Yeah.. Great upgrade and we wasted a high pick trading out. Same bunch of scouts.. Same bunch of evaluators. Same bunch of sh-- we get sold every year. At somepoint you would think they would get it right. But no. Every year it is the same sh--. 2 steps backwards. 1 step forward. I cant wait to trade Parrish for a 5th watch Leodis get hurt and then wonder why did we trade Parrish for that 5th round pick again? Then we can trade Lee Evans next year for a couple of 4ths and waste a 1st on a WR.

But draft picks win championships. Oh wait.

Tim, Quick Peters question. Have the Bills thought of using a multiyear signing/roster bonus plan with Peters. Basically raising his salary to 7-8 million this year with escalators to the range that Peters thinks he is worth i.e 10-12 million a year in years 2-5. With some sort of Big roster bonus in Year 2 or 3 that would force the Bills to either pay him or cut him loose. It would give Peters the chance to prove he is worth big time money through his play next season and if he doesnt it would allow the Bills not to have to swallow the 10-20 million signing bonus up front for a player that they question his motivation. Worst case for Peters he gets a 4 million dollar raise this season and his freedom if he doesnt perform and best case he is the richest tackle in football.

Yet we as fans keep coming back. Which is worse?

Or what? Put something on the line.. Sooo.. or what?

I hear Jesus is tough against the run

Jesus Christ could also get after the passer....

McNally called Peters the best player he had coached since Anthony Munoz. So yeah.. Lets trade him. I cant wait for all the posts during the season in which blast the bills for not having a offensive line. Ohh but the draft picks.. Yep.. I mean the guys we have picked over the years have been brilliant... It is the main reason we have made the playoffs.. Ohhh wait.. You trade Peters for picks and you have to basically suck up the fact that TO was signed purely for marketting. The Bills will not make the playoffs again.... And that we are playing for a few years from now. Again.

Says the fan of a team that just signed TO....

Sure The Lions are willing to make this deal if the Bills include the 11 pick.

So if you made this trade last year.. It would be Peters for 21- Sam Baker 28- Lawrence Jackson 53- Limas Sweed 85- Craig Stevens. For a ProBowl LT... Not sure but I think a lot of people OVER RATE draft picks...

I also remember Flutiemania.... Flutie was a me first player that no one wanted. TO is a me against the world type guy and so is the city of Buffalo. I think everyone forgets that. If TO performs, brings attention to Buffalo and helps us Win... HE WILL BE LOVED!! As long as he does not bash Buffalo.. He will be a HERO..

TO will NEVER come to Buffalo. Let me repeat.. NEVER.. Buffalo would be his 31st choice ahead of the Lions. This is a waste of time discussing.. Buffalo=Siberia to T.O

SO far so good

I read somewhere they franchised Andrews. My bad.

Stacy Andrews of the Bengals who has been franchised? So we are giving up 2 #1s..... Yeah right..

All of these guys are big name players that would bring unfounded excitment to this organization at a bargain price. I expect we make a push for all of these guys. Brandon to Ralph---- This will pacify the fan base......

2 million. 1998 called and you still could not get Vilma signed for 2 million a year... And Magox. I have a job for you but only if you will work for 12,000 a year anything more and my money would be spent better elsewhere. Again. Do the people on this board still think that spending the Bills cap money has an impact on your personal credit score? Good Lord..

Somebody needs to write a NFL conduct policy handbook for dummies. Helpful hints like. Smoke your dope at home and not in a parking lot. If you do smoke dope in a parking lot before leaving the house remove all firearms from your trunk. When arrested.. Dont not proclaim your Ko Simpson and you are worth millions. You may be Ko Simpson but you are not worth millions. When out with a buddy at a nightclub and carrying a firearm. Do not shoot yourself in the thigh... When throwing a hot tub party for underage girls.. Check all parties for cameras.... When driving drunk in downtown Buffalo be on the lookout for drunk Canadian chicks. When you are a NFL Probowl running back.. You no longer need to bring your own liquor into the club. You can officially afford to buy your own drinks.

And Jason Peters is a douche bag because he wants to be paid like a 2 x Pro Bowl LT.

More than half of this board is that big a head case... Are you suggesting we all move or stop being fans too?

The same people you are listening to are the same people on this board that would have given their first born for Robert Gallery a few years ago.