[Poll: How do we feel about Stefon Diggs the player?]

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

The most lukewarm take ever - Andre Reed being in the Hall of Fame is more ridiculous.

Talk about a lukewarm take. 😂 

[Poll: How do we feel about Stefon Diggs the player?]

19 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

He was far better than any Bills receiver from the 90s onward. he accomplished things Reed and Moulds never did.

The guy played four seasons here and people want to anoint him the bills best receiver ever?  That’s crazy talk.  Over someone who is in the hall of fame? Ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong he is a great player. But to say he was better than Andre Reed is ludicrous.  

[Poll: How do we feel about Stefon Diggs the player?]

Those 10 people who voted for “bills best receiver ever” must have been born after the 90’s.

[interesting WR scenario posed by a friend]

59 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

We'll likely have a large amount of cap space, however, so we will be able to sign good defenders. The idea is to build up the offense for THIS season and take advantage of a generational WR draft. Thomas/Aiyuk and McConkey?!? Sign me up for that. 

This exactly. 

[Does Beane have a trade with Schoen Lined Up???]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

I’m willing to move 28, 60, next years 1st and next year 2nd if that’s gets us Nabers or Odunze.

 

Really conflicted on a trade up for Brian Thomas.

 

Would really like to keep the 2nd we got from Minny via Houston though.  If we invest in WR through the Draft, next year we might not have a 1, but should have a high 2 and cap space to spend for the first time in years. 

 

I like Nabers the most of any wr.  I wouldn’t  be surprised if he goes before Harrison. 

[Are we really going to miss any of the departed players?]

On 4/6/2024 at 10:58 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

sure, they might.  That's not the topic.

 

Outside of O-line (assuming flat earther QB can play), the Jets are loaded.

Well then I guess we should all be thankful that games are not won on paper. 

[Trade Targets for Bills (WR)]

1 hour ago, ToGoGo said:

He’s not that bad now. Watching him with the Ravens he would be a rich man’s Emmanuel Sanders circa 2021. 

Admittedly I have not watched him. However I am totally on board for a youth movement.  I am so done with older players, ridiculous contracts, oft injured, and underperforming prima donnas that get by on name recognition and not true performance. 1 year at 11 million for obj. This might explain why we early exit each year because these guys over 30 start to break down. 

[Trade Targets for Bills (WR)]

5 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Rebel, with what $ on Adams. Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea if we had cap space.  We need an established WR and also trade up in the draft.  We basically have $10 mil. In June.  That’s why I suggested OBJ as we don’t have to trade for him, amd he wouldn’t be that expensive.

I would absolutely hate that idea.  He is not even an average wr. 1400 yds receiving with 11tds over the past 4 years combined is horrific. Any rookie especially in the first two rounds would surpass that. 

[Are we really going to miss any of the departed players?]

1 hour ago, BBFL said:

3-4 years ago? I’d even take the player we saw last year even if it was primarily the first 9 weeks. That’s just me though. 

Not for that kind of money I wouldn’t.  Add on being a total pain in the a$$. 

[Diggs trade aftermath...what this means for the offense, draft, other WR's still here...]

20 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

I’m sorry but to say the Bills are going to be better on offense without Diggs and Davis is crazy too me. I like Kincaid and Shakir but you’re not going to convince me having Diggs on the field didn’t open up things for them. I think Kincaid will be a stud for sure…but Shakir let’s pump the breaks on that. 

Josh without Diggs on the field is still an unknown. Just a lot of question marks on the offensive side of the ball right now to say they are going to be better. 

They may not be better, but they may not be worse.  I think Curtis Samuel is actually an upgrade over Davis, who disappeared during long stretches of the season.  Not to mention shakir actually outplayed Diggs the last 10 games of the season.  Is it that far fetched that a rookie can’t come in and play very well?  Also let’s not forget that Samuel and said rookie will add speed to the outside which we have been severely lacking. This will help Kincaid, shakir, and cook be more effective underneath.  Some people on here lost their minds when Edmunds was not resigned.  I knew then that he could be replaced.  (Bernard was better)  People need to stop being married to the “name” of a player and look at the production.  Fact Bills were 6-1 without Diggs being the main focal point.  This was absolutely the right call. As a matter of fact I am saying that the bills offense will be every bit as good if not better this season. 

[2024 WR Draft Class]

6 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Yea I am fully in the trade back camp. I wanted to draft two WRs early this year but had resigned myself to the idea that 1 would be the max this year and the Diggs replacement would come next year. With that timeline pushed up, I think we have to get 2 early WRs this year and the only way to do that would be to add more day 2 picks. (Miscalculating that comp pick really keeps hurting more and more).

 

 Once you get past the top 3, I think guys 4-9 I’d be about equally as happy with and then once you get outside the top 12 non-slot guys it feels like the exciting talent is gone. 
 

So getting two of this top 9 guys would be amazing and feel like 2 first round picks in my own mind. Though I think  the third we pull in the trade back packaged with our second would probably be enough to move up high enough to pull this off

Exactly where my head is at as well. 

[2024 WR Draft Class]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I'd be good with all sorts of combos!  I'd LOVE finding a way to get both Xavier's

Worthy at 28 or small trade up, then use the 2025 2nd and pick 60 to move way up in Round 2 for Legette 

100 percent.  If there was any year to double dip this would be the year.  Especially seeing some of these contracts that have been handed out to the wr position.  I absolutely love the idea of getting young studs that have size, speed, and the opportunity to grow with an all pro qb.   While at the same time saving money that can be used to address other need areas in the future.

 

[2024 WR Draft Class]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep.

 

Option 1: Trade up big, giving up next year's #1, one of next year's #2s and some mid round picks and get into the top 10 for one of the consensus top 3;

Option 2: Trade up smaller giving up one of next year's #2s and a mid round pick for (most likely) Thomas;

Option 3: Take an X receiver at #28 (likely Mitchell or Legette) and a Z type / move receiver at #60;

Option 4: Take a Z type / move receiver at #28 (likely Ladd or Worthy) and trade up in round 2 giving up one of next year's #2s for an X receiver (likely Legette or Coleman) in the 40s.

 

I think we are going to see one of those 4 options. 

How about option 5:  two x receivers.  Mitchell and Legette would look great in bills uniforms 

[Diggs cryptic comments - 2024 edition]

13 hours ago, sven233 said:

Diggs is going to be here for at least a couple more years.  There is just no justifying anything else with the dead money on his contract.  If Diggs truly wanted out, which I don't think he does, he just has to go to Beane and tell him that he will rip up his current deal, agree to one with no guaranteed money, and then get traded.  But with the guarantees in his current contract, trading or releasing him would be flat out dumb.

 

All that said, it's the main reason we have to find our future WR1 in this draft.  Diggs, even if he is here, is heading towards WR2 status sooner than later.  We need to nail this pick and find a guy that could possibly be ready by the end of this season heading into the Playoffs that can grow into the new go to guy.

But is he though?  That’s the real question 

[Diggs traded to Texans for picks]

29 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The guy is the best WR the Bills ever had. Thanks for this. McDermott better win this thing basically now or I don’t want to keep running this ***** back.

Umm yeah…. There was this guy once named Andre reed 

[Beane Discusses Draft Strategy w/ Pat McAfee]

1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:

What we think McBeane will do:

 

1st: WR

2nd: S

4th: C

4th: WR

 

What McBeane will do:

 

1st: DT

2nd: DE

4th: S

4th: CB

 

 

 

 

And then we will hear the proverbial “beane is a wizard” “in beane we trust” and “big baller beane”.

[Anyone else feeling pretty good with the Bills?]

10 hours ago, MJS said:

Of course. The Bills are still, and will continue to be, a top 5 team in the NFL. They will likely be in the playoffs fighting for a championship again. We have a Superstar QB in his prime, promising young players, good coaches, and good depth all around. Are we missing some pieces? Probably, but we need to let the off season play out. There is the draft and Beane has until training camp to bring in more talent and retool this roster.

 

This is one of the premier times to be a Buffalo Bills fan. The team is well respected throughout the league. Players and coaches want to be here. The team has great facilities and is building a new stadium. Each year they reload and try to get better instead of having to make wholesale changes and start over. It's great.

But that’s just it. To me top 5 teams are playing in championship games.  I think we are more in the 5-8 range.  

[Diggs cryptic comments - 2024 edition]

4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

End of the day he is just not wort the trouble,  my biggest problem last season was his brother on numerous occasions was trashing Allen on twitter.  There is no way his brother is doing this unless he is hearing Stefon say bad things about Allen himself. Beane screwed up, he should have traded him right after 13 secs rather than give him that stupid extension.  That extension is the biggest reason why we cannot sign free agents

This will most likely be his last season as a Bill. What we do in the draft will likely highlight our intentions moving forward with Diggs. If I’m the bills I would still take two wr in the first four picks.  

[Diggs cryptic comments - 2024 edition]

7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

EXACTLY

 

Geezus...now you are going back to last year, something that was squashed immediately and was not at all a factor at any point in the season.  

 

Ok Karen.  Your crazy bias to make this into something is unreal.  

 

Honestly, this thread makes it embarrassing to be a Bills fan.

Let’s be honest here, Diggs has a history of this since his days in Minnesota.  His tweets ultimately led to him being traded.  I’m not saying he will be traded, or that there is some 5 alarm fire at one bills drive.  But let’s not act like Diggs is the victim of salacious rumors and people having “crazy bias” against him.  Diggs knows exactly what he is doing. Diggs creates the problem with his ambiguity. He does this every off season around this time to generate attention.

7 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

That must explain why the Head Coach and GM needed to have a meeting with him last off-season. It was so heated he was told to go home and let cooler heads prevail….excused from practice. Sean said he was very concerned.  Josh even said they were working through some things. That’s not nothing. It could have been resolved for during the season….but this is the 2nd year in a row.  
 

Again, there are multiple posters on here who have proven records of reliable inside info before something happens.  They have talked about Diggs antics and friction 
 

 

People conveniently forget these antics in Minnesota as well.  History proves past.

[Diggs cryptic comments - 2024 edition]

1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

When does the Bills brass get tired of McDermott's defense choking in games???

McDermott throwing Diggs under the boss was the lowest of the low for this loser coach. 

I would take ten Diggs over one McDermott 

I am trying not to get emotional but the people that what to run Diggs out of town really piss me off. Diggs is the best WR in franchise history and people want to run him out of town. I've said this before but he is the only one to stand up to McDermott and his joke of an OC. I love him for that!

 

 

Andre Reed says hello. 

[Dion Dawkins cryptic tweet UPDATE: EXTENDED PER SCHEFTY]

3 hours ago, Beast said:

And, again, what I said is true. The post was stupid and done for no other reason than to stir up *****.

You are not wrong.  And then you have the self righteous piling on to proclaim how “foolish” you are to even question it.  Give me a break.  

[Say the Bills DON’T restructure Josh Allen…]

1 hour ago, Maynard said:

Do it. And let the english see you do it. 

They think we run ?

[Dion Dawkins cryptic tweet UPDATE: EXTENDED PER SCHEFTY]

17 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

That’s not enough value to warrant trading Dawkins IMO. I’d rather just move other picks to do that

I don’t know.  That would place Dawkins value as the 46th pick. A mid second doesn’t sound too bad to me for a plus 30 year old 12-15 best LT.  especially if he wants top 8 money. 

[Bills Cap Status - Approx $4.25 under cap 4/03/2024 (added roster change summary)]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Agree, especially in a draft as loaded as this one at the position.

 

Assuming the extend Dawkins & Brown, the Offense is set for the short & long term.  Adding two quality rookie WR’s to go with Kincaid in his second year could lock in this Offense around Josh Allen for a long time. 
 

People can worry about the Defense if we double dip at WR, but the Safety and DT FA market could not be set up any better for what we need this off-season.   EDGE is a worry, but it’s not like anyone ever gets pressure during the Playoffs anyway.  Just get some big bodies to push the pocket back and let what might be a Top 2 LB tandem in the NFL get to work. 

My thoughts exactly on all counts.

[Bills Cap Status - Approx $4.25 under cap 4/03/2024 (added roster change summary)]

42 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I said he’s part of the problem.

 

Those three big contracts.. none of them being what we paid them to be, which is elite at their position. 

That’s why I think the bills should pull a gb and draft 2 wr in the first 3 rounds if they are there, and move on from diggs next season if they r quality players.