daz28

THIS is where the real corruption is. MIC and Pentagon, but instead we're cutting $47k drag shows. Absolute trash deal for Ukraine, who can de-mobilize just in time for Russia to take the rest easily. Art of the Deal.

Literally reaching at paper straws.

Benefit is a good word to use for that comparison. Who benefitted? Let's take this a step further. I remember when the EV haters claim was that the "grid can't handle EV's". Well, that didn't stop the global warming grift from going an even further unrealistic step did it: To help solve the issue, Tesla will be eligible for government subsidies to manufacture charging stations that can charge both NACS and CCS vehicles. The White House has yet to confirm the specifics of spending the $7.5 billion in Bipartisan Infrastructure Law money allocated to EV charging investment I claimed supporters, and lying about things is utter HS. Right now 1 million people are cold, but can I prove it??? No, but it's as real as Nazi support was in the 30's here in America. Seeing you've forgotten some evidence I gave you then, here it is again: The America First Committee (AFC) was an American isolationist pressure group against the United States' entry into World War II.[1][2] Launched in September 1940, it surpassed 800,000 members in 450 chapters at its peak.[3] The AFC principally supported isolationism for its own sake, and its varied coalition included Republicans, Democrats, farmers, industrialists, communists, anti-communists, students, and journalists – however, it was controversial for the anti-Semitic and pro-fascist views of some of its most prominent speakers, leaders, and members.[4][5][6][7] The AFC was dissolved on December 11, 1941, four days after the attack on Pearl Harbor brought the United States into the war. The AFC argued that no foreign power could successfully attack a strongly defended United States, that a British defeat by Nazi Germany would not imperil American national security, and that giving military aid to Britain would risk dragging the United States into the war. The group fervently opposed measures for the British advanced by President Franklin D. Roosevelt such as the destroyers-for-bases deal and the Lend-Lease bill, but failed in its efforts to block them. No deflection is a bad deflection, though.

I showed you that there was widespread support for Nazi's, and there was. It's not my fault you have no historical understanding of the 'America First' movement. Try reading more. Anyways, that deflection carries no weight in this debate.

I'm all for cutting costs, but this is a show pony.

So is anyone going to provide anything to support that Elon didn't grift billions of dollars, or just stick to ad hominem? Elon was on the verge of bankruptcy. until he grifted the government. He's openly stated this.

Is that your best attempt to deflect? There were at least a million nazi supporters/simps. We're discussing Elon's grift right now. Biden helped him.

My bias? I'm not supporting a known government grifter.

Giving grants, based on lies, is corruption. Corruption is stealing. This is government market manipulation(also corruption): The tax credit was restored in 2023 as part of the Biden administration’s Inflation Reduction Act. But Musk has encouraged the incoming Trump administration to end the $7,500 tax credit, which would seem to be against Tesla’s interests but would be a blow for established automakers seeking to get a share of the US EV market. Those legacy automakers would have to accept bigger losses on their EV sales or pull back on offerings, which would reduce competition for Tesla. “Take away the subsidies, it will only help Tesla,” Musk posted on his social media platform X in July. Any references to "derangement syndrome" will denote a losing argument. It's actually fact derangement syndrome.

Exactly.

Tesla/global warming. You can do your own research.

I'd like it done in a comprehensive manner. Some of this is throwing the baby out with the bath water. You're defending slash and burn, while attempting to condemn anyone who disagrees with that approach.

So intelligent is putting people you DO KNOW robbed the government in charge? They are nowhere near being transparent. Throwing out a few small, misleading things isn't doing it for me, and some of it seems to be clearly partisan. So he will go whichever way the wind blows? is that your point? How is pointing out that he's a known leach "demonize successful business people"??

Destroying the "corrupt" voting system will be the coup de grace.

But I thought big balls bounced to the left and to the right?

Tesla/Musk. Name one person that did a better job robbing the government under guise of the global warming hoax?

Those people would still like to know what/where the corruption/waste is, rather than have a guy, with a matchbook, running around throwing it on anything he deems bad, with disregard for the legality/constitutionality of it.

It's almost like there's leaches all over the place, trying to get in on the government fundstravaganza. I'd prefer that whoever sets out to fix it isn't someone who is guilty of taking advantage of those rounding errors. Do I think the government wasted billions on Tesla? Yes. Am I going to breathe easy knowing a guy, who has abused taxpayer money, is in charge of fixing it? No.

The savior of wasteful govt spending is the guy who cashed in on billions of taxpayer money making cars for the global warming hoax, but I guess that makes me a whiny liberal if I bring that fact up.

Maga IS the fight for ignorance.

Every move he's making is being blocked. That damn Constitution.

Still unfair to those who came here legally. Also unfair to out of work Americans. After all, they've been beating the drum that being here illegally is a crime itself.

I would expect the guy who brags about firing people to act quickly. Def worse than "but her emails".

That's horrible, but probably still better than being trump's press secretary in the morning.

Elon is very tone deaf when it comes to politics, but his new manfriends mistake it for him being the geeky, troll type who doesn't care. He will find out soon enough.