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1 minute ago, JDHillFan said:
At the time of the original discussion, I asked you to provide one single example where “one million American nazis” was documented. You couldn’t then and you can’t know. Your schtick is to make a claim with authority (but without evidence) and then go around in circles trying to prove it. Super lame.
I showed you that there was widespread support for Nazi's, and there was. It's not my fault you have no historical understanding of the 'America First' movement. Try reading more. Anyways, that deflection carries no weight in this debate.
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1 minute ago, aristocrat said:
It’s like knowing someone with a credit card problem and to fix their problem you cut the credit cards. You let them pay the essentials but not the uber eats. We’re cutting out the uber eats
I'm all for cutting costs, but this is a show pony.
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So is anyone going to provide anything to support that Elon didn't grift billions of dollars, or just stick to ad hominem?
Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said:Elon doesn't need more money, I'm having a hard time buying what your selling.
Elon was on the verge of bankruptcy. until he grifted the government. He's openly stated this.
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4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
Isn’t it called climate change now?
Tesla ROBBED the government. This reminds me of when you wanted people to believe you when you said America First was a movement of ONE MILLION American nazis. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻
Is that your best attempt to deflect? There were at least a million nazi supporters/simps.
1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:Lol the Biden admin was a giant grift if you haven't been paying attention. Good luck dude.
We're discussing Elon's grift right now. Biden helped him.
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3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:
Good job dancing around the question. Psst your bias is clearly showing.
My bias? I'm not supporting a known government grifter.
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2 minutes ago, K D said:
The libs you probably voted for decided to give Elon grants and that's him "stealing"? Yikes man. They give the same grants or more to GM. Sounds like you have Elon derangement syndrome.
Giving grants, based on lies, is corruption. Corruption is stealing.
This is government market manipulation(also corruption):
The tax credit was restored in 2023 as part of the Biden administration’s Inflation Reduction Act. But Musk has encouraged the incoming Trump administration to end the $7,500 tax credit, which would seem to be against Tesla’s interests but would be a blow for established automakers seeking to get a share of the US EV market. Those legacy automakers would have to accept bigger losses on their EV sales or pull back on offerings, which would reduce competition for Tesla.
“Take away the subsidies, it will only help Tesla,” Musk posted on his social media platform X in July.
Any references to "derangement syndrome" will denote a losing argument. It's actually fact derangement syndrome.
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1 minute ago, aristocrat said:
What’s the difference between slash and burn and just recklessly spending?
Exactly.
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2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
Describe the robbery of the government if you don’t mind. Would love to see some sources but suspect they aren’t available.
Tesla/global warming. You can do your own research.
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1 minute ago, aristocrat said:
you really think we need to be funding random comic stops and arts programs in third world countries? People could have less taxes or at least have that money spent here to make our lives better. If our country fails we can’t help anyone.I'd like it done in a comprehensive manner. Some of this is throwing the baby out with the bath water. You're defending slash and burn, while attempting to condemn anyone who disagrees with that approach.
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2 minutes ago, K D said:
We know about it because they are posting everything they are doing online. The eyes on this is unlike anything we've ever seen. But you would trust the old way of people you don't know doing god knows what? That doesn't sound very intelligent
So intelligent is putting people you DO KNOW robbed the government in charge? They are nowhere near being transparent. Throwing out a few small, misleading things isn't doing it for me, and some of it seems to be clearly partisan.
3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:Sorry. I’m not one to demonize successful business people. When all is said and done he will go out as one of the most impactful people that ever lived. I’m confident the overwhelming majority of his life’s work will have been for good.
He’s been tasked with a job. I don’t care that he’s been the beneficiary of government pork. Hasn’t it been liberal politicians demanding more EV’s? Rhetorical question.
So he will go whichever way the wind blows? is that your point? How is pointing out that he's a known leach "demonize successful business people"??
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Destroying the "corrupt" voting system will be the coup de grace.
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But I thought big balls bounced to the left and to the right?
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2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
There is now scrutiny of government spending the likes of which has never happened before. The only people that appear to be upset by it are liberals. Interesting situation.
Do you have someone in mind that you prefer to the bad businessman?
Tesla/Musk. Name one person that did a better job robbing the government under guise of the global warming hoax?
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3 hours ago, aristocrat said:
you still fail to realize why trump got elected. The people are pissed. These people made their bed and are facing the consequencesThose people would still like to know what/where the corruption/waste is, rather than have a guy, with a matchbook, running around throwing it on anything he deems bad, with disregard for the legality/constitutionality of it.
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1 minute ago, K D said:
It's almost like there's leaches all over the place, trying to get in on the government fundstravaganza. I'd prefer that whoever sets out to fix it isn't someone who is guilty of taking advantage of those rounding errors.
2 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:Do you think the government wastes our tax dollars? If the answer is yes, my advice is to take a breath and see how it plays out. If your answer is no, well there is no other conversation to be had.
Do I think the government wasted billions on Tesla? Yes. Am I going to breathe easy knowing a guy, who has abused taxpayer money, is in charge of fixing it? No.
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The savior of wasteful govt spending is the guy who cashed in on billions of taxpayer money making cars for the global warming hoax, but I guess that makes me a whiny liberal if I bring that fact up.
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8 minutes ago, LDD said:
I've been in the fight vs ignorance for my entire professional career.
Maga IS the fight for ignorance.
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5 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:
Every move he's making is being blocked. That damn Constitution.
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2 hours ago, Doc said:
Nah. Working illegals are fine. Criminals and non-productive ones? See ya!
Still unfair to those who came here legally. Also unfair to out of work Americans. After all, they've been beating the drum that being here illegally is a crime itself.
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3 hours ago, Roundybout said:
Speaking of emails,I would expect the guy who brags about firing people to act quickly. Def worse than "but her emails".
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1 minute ago, 4th&long said:
I don't think he will be alive very long.
That's horrible, but probably still better than being trump's press secretary in the morning.
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Just now, 4th&long said:
They are trying to round up and fire people for doing their job.
I can't wait for all the lawsuits for an oligarch with 19 year old employees trying to decide what part of govt that was approved by congress should stay or go. I'm sure evening is on the level.
Elon is very tone deaf when it comes to politics, but his new manfriends mistake it for him being the geeky, troll type who doesn't care. He will find out soon enough.
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18 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
Shouldn't you be telling us? 😝
All I know is Jared's going to make a little more than Hunter's art collection did. Hey Jared, did you see that a Monet is up for purchase?
This officially counts as 25th Amendment case #1 right here, and it's a dooozy.
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13 minutes ago, B-Man said:
Shouldn't this silliness be in the conspiracy thread ?
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Didn't anyone fill Jared in that the Palestinians are being deported, and the others won't be welcomes back? It belongs in the all-time best predictions thread.
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Benefit is a good word to use for that comparison. Who benefitted?
Let's take this a step further. I remember when the EV haters claim was that the "grid can't handle EV's". Well, that didn't stop the global warming grift from going an even further unrealistic step did it:
To help solve the issue, Tesla will be eligible for government subsidies to manufacture charging stations that can charge both NACS and CCS vehicles.
The White House has yet to confirm the specifics of spending the $7.5 billion in Bipartisan Infrastructure Law money allocated to EV charging investment
I claimed supporters, and lying about things is utter HS. Right now 1 million people are cold, but can I prove it??? No, but it's as real as Nazi support was in the 30's here in America.
Seeing you've forgotten some evidence I gave you then, here it is again:
The America First Committee (AFC) was an American isolationist pressure group against the United States' entry into World War II.[1][2] Launched in September 1940, it surpassed 800,000 members in 450 chapters at its peak.[3] The AFC principally supported isolationism for its own sake, and its varied coalition included Republicans, Democrats, farmers, industrialists, communists, anti-communists, students, and journalists – however, it was controversial for the anti-Semitic and pro-fascist views of some of its most prominent speakers, leaders, and members.[4][5][6][7] The AFC was dissolved on December 11, 1941, four days after the attack on Pearl Harbor brought the United States into the war.
The AFC argued that no foreign power could successfully attack a strongly defended United States, that a British defeat by Nazi Germany would not imperil American national security, and that giving military aid to Britain would risk dragging the United States into the war. The group fervently opposed measures for the British advanced by President Franklin D. Roosevelt such as the destroyers-for-bases deal and the Lend-Lease bill, but failed in its efforts to block them.
No deflection is a bad deflection, though.