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Been what I’ve been saying for a while now. They don’t seem to be nearly as panicked as most of the fans. They seem to like Dane Jackson and I’ll bet Tre is back sooner than most think. They also have an amazing track record of developing DBs.

I would love to have someone like Jameson Williams or Garrett Wilson on a 5th year. I just don’t think they will be there. I also think if the Bills love Hall that he also won’t be there if they wait till 57.

I think you are completely underselling last year that the bills were reportedly very high on Ettienne, this year when they made a play for McKissic, and all the predraft visits they’ve had with running backs. They want one. Period. It’s not an opinion. Just look at what has been going on. They will add one. They know how close they are and McD wants a running game. A guy like Hall at 25 would bring this run game instant credibility. You do realize we can just as easily draft a bust at another position right?

This is a great point. You are correct. The sweet spot for the top RBs has been early 2nd. Our 1st rounder is a late 1st anyways, so if you want Hall you will need to take him at 25, trade back to the top of 2, or trade up into the early 40s.

Give me the top RB in the draft over the fifth or sixth CB any day of the week. Hall would take us to another level. We can get a corner later.

I disagree. Yes, they are tied at the hip, but Beane has given McD more than enough talent to win with. He’s done his job. McD is the one that didn’t do a single right thing in the last 13 seconds of the chiefs game. That will follow him very closely this year if he doesn’t get over the hump.

But that doesn’t fit the narrative of the “keep stacking the defense” crowd…

Well said. I’ve been saying this over and over…I think the staff REALLY likes Dane Jackson and doesn’t feel the “need” as much as posters on this board. Give me the WR all day long. The passing game is our identity. Keep the cupboard full.

Did you even bother to watch the super bowl?

Totally agree. Joe B was on a podcast the other day fully admitting they have spent a lot on defense and it might be time to add long term to the offense. People get too worked up about guys like crowder, Johnson, saffold, and Howard. They are on one year deals and each of those positions can be addressed for the long term…

Fun fact…we have Josh Allen, they do not.

A ton of WR, TE, and RB too. I feel the same way about WRs. The passing game is our identity. Keep stockpiling weapons for Allen. Dane and Tre can hold down the starting CB spots. Sign a vet until Tre is 100%.

I’m telling you all…Dane Jackson has 2 years under McD and his numbers aren’t bad at all. They like him.

I just think they like Dane a lot more than anyone wants to believe. There is a reason they haven’t signed a vet yet and I find it hard to believe that they would be this transparent if they did want a corner.

I agree with this. That’s another argument against a highly drafted corner. If they are indeed happy with Dane on one side of the field, then why burn a first rounder on a guy “just in case” Tre isn’t ready to start the season? I mean, once he’s back then what? We drafted a first round corner to hold it down until Tre is back? Sorry…I just can’t behind that logic.

Been saying this for a while, but the 1st round corner crowd conveniently ignores it. This staff seems to really like Dane Jackson. If you pair him with a vet or 2nd-3rd round rookie, we will be fine until Tre is 100%, which I believe will be sooner than most of us think. The history is there. This group has done it before, as Marino has mentioned. Marino is also VERY high on Cam Taylor-Britt in the 3rd. Oh by the way…his comp? James Bradberry. The very guy that the Panthers drafted in the 2nd round that year. Cam Taylor-Britt? Josh Williams? Martin Emerson?

Taylor-Britt is fast, long, and fits our scheme really well. Kyle Crabbs compares him to James Bradberry…a guy that a lot of us have been hoping the bills trade for. I’d love this guy in the third.

That’s what I thought…

Which team’s war room were you a part of and what year?

My argument is that if there is a tie between two prospects, they might err on the side of the non-DB due to the success rate with McD and DBs in his system.

McD literally made zero correct decisions in that 13 seconds. If you can’t see that, then I don’t know what to tell you.

I think that works in their favor though. They might not see it as urgent as other teams might. Do you agree with the statement that McD and his staff is pretty much the best In the league at developing DB’s? Heck, take Hyde and poyer as additional examples. Neither were anywhere near what they are today before McD coached them up.

I’m not even going to argue with you about this. I’m just not. It’s not worth my time. Just about everyone knows that McD is great in developing DB’s. He’s a defensive coach and his background is DB’s. In fact, he was DB himself.

I was talking about Beane. And it’s a fact he’s only ever once drafted a corner before round 5. That would be taron Johnson. I think there is more than enough evidence that McD and his staff can coach up DB’s better than most, if not the best. Just about everyone that talks about the bills in the media recognizes that.

I think there is an over abundance of evidence. The fact that he’s only ever drafted a corner before round 5 once. McD is the best in the league at developing corners. This started back in Carolina when he took a fifth rounder named Josh Norman and made him into arguably the best corner in the league while he was there.