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crazy to think the only offensive weapons off the board are 2 TEs from Iowa in damn near the entire first round (excluding QBs)

17 or 19? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-nfl-free-agency-2019/2019/3/7/18254679/buffalo-bills-2019-free-agent-rumor-signing-tracker-news-contract-trade-ziggy-ansah-antonio-brown Regardless, could be the craziest offseason in Bills history!

what conference does Houston play in again? for some reason, I don't think he was going up against the NCAA's best talent

is anyone concerned with his production decline in college?

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True and I guess the real question is are they bad quarterbacks on bad teams or are they good quarterbacks on bad teams? They both get sacked a ton and their teams struggle to produce wins.

You're getting emotional now, and it's not worth debating with someone who refuses to look at the sheer volume of statistics and focuses on the Win/Loss column of one player for a team sport. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=Jameis+Winston&player_id1_select=Jameis+Winston&fromyear_1=2015&toyear_1=2018&player_id1=WinsJa00&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Peyton+Manning&player_id2_select=Peyton+Manning&fromyear_2=1998&toyear_2=2001&player_id2=MannPe00&idx=players I'll post this here for you again for you to pick apart. If you can't see the value in Jameis Winston as a long term NFL prospect when comparing him with one of the greatest of all time then I don't know what else to say. This thread was about the changing face of the NFL and I believe Jameis has the same chance if not a better one than most of the QB's posted on page one and two. You don't, and it's not my job to convince you. You can pick up:Sam DarnoldJosh AllenLamar Jackson (who I think will end up flaming out, but we'll see).Kyler Murray? for your fantasy league and fade Jameis and go out sad, that's not my problem.

1. you are exaggerating. Jameis has never thrown 20 INT's in a season. Peyton Manning has though. Actually, Peyton was worse in the INT department in his first 4 years than Jameis. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=Jameis+Winston&player_id1_select=Jameis+Winston&fromyear_1=2015&toyear_1=2018&player_id1=WinsJa00&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Peyton+Manning&player_id2_select=Peyton+Manning&fromyear_2=1998&toyear_2=2001&player_id2=MannPe00&idx=players one thing you will notice is Jameis gets sacked... a lot. 2. what would it matter if he threw for 5000 yards and put up 50 TD's if they have no defence? You expect him to win 16 straight shoot-outs against teams with actual defences? 3. on what planet do regular season wins out weight QB rating, completion percentage yards and TD's? 4. Lastly, I can see you have a bigger problem with his personality than his performance and have decided to put him under a microscope because of it, that's fine.

because if you are going to include Josh Allen as part of the NFL's changing scenery and not include Jameis you have a crack pipe in your hand fitzpatrick has never even posted a 4000+ yard season and Winston has posted two? you couldn't be more wrong my fellow Bills fan. and yeah let's pretend Allen and Barkley were the reasons we were winning and not the defence which is non-existent in Tampa and to top it off you can tell your posting in a Bills forum when regular season wins count as a benchmark of success.

1: R1P9 EDGE MONTEZ SWEAT MICHIGAN 2: R2P8 DL JEFFERY SIMMONS MISSISSIPPI STATE 3: R3P10 OT DAVID EDWARDS WISCONSIN 4: R4P10 RB MILES SANDERS PENN STATE 5: R4P29 WR ANTHONY JOHNSON BUFFALO 6: R5P9 TE CALEB WILSON UCLA 7: R5P20 CB KEN WEBSTER MISSISSIPPI 8: R6P8 LB TYREL DODSON TEXAS A&M 9: R7P11 S AMANI HOOKER IOWA

Are you just unaware he was not allowed to play for the first half of the season and still put up more yards than Josh Allen? or did you miss that part that? Did you miss Fitzy shocking the nation, like people were genuinely surprised he was playing better than almost every QB in the league and he was virtually unfadable in any DFS or DraftKings scenario for like the first 6 weeks? Winston's INTS were high, but he'll be back strong with confidence that he's the Alpha QB and will get training camp to mesh with his team Dude the last Bills QB to throw over 4000+ yards was Drew Bledsoe... I'm not squabbling with you over this.

Don't sleep on Miles Sanders either! He was Saquan Barkley's Replacement, almost identical stat lines and 40 times, although Sanders is not the same receiving threat as Saquan was coming out of college. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/miles-sanders-1.html https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/saquon-barkley-1.html

I mean you can FEEL however you want, but he put up 4000 yrds in his rookie and sophmore campaign and scored almost as many touchdowns last year as he did in his rookie season in like half the games. For instance, Mahomes had 580 Attempts for 66% and Winston was 378 Attempts for 64%. I guess that's not as important as social issues though so forget I mentioned it.

Ahhh, well, it sounds like zone RB's should be able to adapt to power man schemes much easier than a power man RB adapting to a zone scheme, but I can see how that could create an issue. Thank you for being thorough about it! ?

can you shed some light on man/power vs zone for some of us that don't know what you're talking about? I understand man/zone defences, not blocking schemes though. and do Miles Sanders and Rodney Anderson run man or zone?

source? and he won't if he signs with NOLA 'cause they have none

I swear to god Estro, you're reading my mind hahaha ? If we lock Ansah into a 2 yr contract constructed similarly to Ty Nsekhe's, except for more $, I wonder if we would have enough left over to sign Justin Houston as well... That + Wilkins/Oliver would make the Bills' pass rush absolutely stacked

Don't sleep on that big boy down in Tampa either

Multi-Dimensional and he posted a 4.49 (sixth fastest 40 time among rb's)

Yeah I was just reading that Collins crashed a car with 5oz's of marijuana and a handgun... I can't see Ivory, Murphy or Ford being on the roster when training camp starts and if we draft one guy at 3-5 we still only have 3 backs locked in for 2019 Gore and McCoy are FA's in 2020...i wouldn't be mad if they sign a young promising back and draft a future guy to learn from the Vets guys thats GUS EDWARDS and I was asking what it would take to pry him away from Baltimore, but seeing as they don't have Collins anymore i highly doubt that is possible at all

totally but if they'd do it for a 4th and a 5th I wouldn't hesitate, Edwards is averaging 5.2 YPC and he's that guy you wish you had when it comes to goal line situations

i'm all for picking up a back in the draft, but i wonder what it would cost to pry Gus Edwards away from Baltimore? they just picked up Mark Ingram and they have Alex Collins already also... This guy is an absolute monster at 6-1' 238 lbs. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EdwaGu00.htm

whats the boards' general consensus of what round we should be adding our future RB in? I'm thinking no sooner than the 4th

His avg is attrocious, OU RB Rodney Anderson or MEM RB Darrell Henderson please! ?

Has anyone seen his contract?