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So a guy leaves the most explosive offense in NFL history, joins a MUCH more conservative offense splitting time with the most talented RB in the NFL and the change of his averages is a reflection on ONLY his talent alone? This seems more than a little short sided.

Worth mentioning with the Roberts news, Hunt is/was no slouch returning kicks. Not that I think that's how we'd use him, I think he'd become the defacto bellcow RB with Moss maybe getting 8-10 touches, but worth noting... Still doubting this happens.

If the 2's in play, I think we also look at swapping picks in the first. Not trying to get greedy, but that feels like solid value for all... Browns move back 4 spots in the 1st, move a disgruntled TE and get value for their backup RB. Bills move up in the first, address 2 positional needs while taking on some risk... EDIT: it's not a massive jump up, but I think 26 puts both Phillips and Ossai in play, and those two have GOT to be priorities for us...

We've been connected to both of them in the past and our FO is friendly with Schneider in Seattle, so certainly not impossible...

When I say game-changing, I'm talking like Devin Hester -- can score anytime he touches the ball game changing. No question Roberts gave us good FP a lot and was certainly reliable and trustworthy back there, but he's far from the only one who can offer that sort of safety net.

Hadn't seen this posted anywhere. At the right price I'd love Dunlop and Rhodes.

KR shouldn't be too hard to upgrade, he was good for us but I'm not sure he was game-changing good. Rather the dollars and attention be spread elsewhere.

Don't see either of the Washington guys being there where they're drafted -- Tryon early/mid 2nd and Taylor mid/late 2nd.

Poor guy...

Agree with a lot of this, but Beane has said time and again that he'll identify his guy and go get him. Ossai or Phillips might not last all the way until 30, but I think either could very feasibly fall into the mid 20s, in which case a trade up wouldn't be prohibitively expensive...

Sure. But, 1. That's why he signed first. 2. That's why he'll get at least a little more money. 3. You're not paying Jonnu $50M to block. This is a copycat league and teams will pay for the next Waller/Kelce/Kittle chess piece. You know who's a great blocker as a TE? Lee Smith. You know who's not getting a 4 year/$50M contract? Lee Smith. I agree. That's why I've been saying Rudolph makes the most sense in my mind...

Guessing Everett is out of our price range too. Whether you think Jonnu's contract was a good deal or too much, he's getting it because of his athletic ability -- Everett will be very much the same.

Just say "no" to Ertz.

4 yrs, $50MIL... as I said, he was out of our price range...

Don't pay attention to the numbers, he's the 1b. to the most talented RB in the league, he was never going to have dominant numbers.

Having met Kim and spoken with her a number of times, I can only add this, she's an exceedingly talented businesswoman and a smart, caring and compassionate person. If this went down, I feel pretty comfortable saying all of the following will have happened: 1. The value would be too good to pass up 2. Hunt and his actions since the incident will have been thoroughly vetted 3. The Pegulas are friends with the Hunts and the Haslams (KC & CLE ownership), they'll likely have received very solid vouching for his character and actions since, as well. 4. A very thorough discussion internally, as to the merits of bringing someone like Hunt back for a second chance will have occurred. 5. The coaching staff is 100% on board with his fit and the overall value. Count me as skeptical that we trade for Hunt, but if we do, I think I'll trust the above...

Possible, yes and again -- I'd LOVE to see it. I just think the athletic TE is too big of a trend in the league right now for him to come to a team that has to do a whole bunch of cap karate to even get in the discussion, ya know? His agent's job is to get him top dollar, so he would have to really want to come to Buffalo, and I feel like we would've heard something about that by now.

Exactly. Jonnu Smith isn't negotiating with the Bills in a vacuum here (if he's negotiating with them at all). The market will dictate his price and terms of his contract, having the ability to craft a contract in a way that's beneficial to our cap situation and doing so with Smith onboard and excited about that proposition are 2 completely different things. This is Madden thinking and not the reality of how free agency works.

lol sorry for trying to bring some reality to the conversation. Perhaps I should've been more explicit (read: boring.) You can't sign everybody, teams have their priorities and I tend to believe that TE is low on this team's priority list. Lower, certainly, than CB, pass rush, DL, OL, WR, RB, KR/PR and probably backup QB. Yes contractual funny money sometimes exists in the NFL, but just because it *can* happen, doesn't mean Jonnu's up for that, won't get a better offer elsewhere, or we'll even try to do that (see priority comments above). I'll gladly be wrong, because I love Jonnu's game, but I don't see it here...

Both Henry and Smith are going to be out of our price range, unfortunately. I think Rudolph or trading for Njoku are probably our best bets, barring Feirmuth dropping to our 2nd rd pick...

CB might be an option for our first pick if we trade back, but I don't see a reasonable value at 30... Fairley, Horn and Surtain are the clear top 3 and all will likely be long gone by 30. From there there's a fairly wide gap and then another grouping of bigger CBs that would all fit our system well -- all or many likely available at the bottom of 2: Adebo (my preference), Newsome, Melifonwu, Keith Taylor, Stokes (his 40 will push him up draft boards but I don't love him for us anyway) and Shaun Wade. To the OP, there's a bunch of guys I like in the 3rd more than Samuel too: St. Juste, Mukuwamu, Joseph, Campbell.

That's fine. My point was more that there isn't any specific *stigma* around restructuring, often it works in the players' best interest and shows leadership. No reason why all of those couldn't be true for White.

Bingo. Not to mention the most dominant player in the league just restructured... If Mahomes can restructure, anyone can.

Purely my opinion on him, based largely on college scouting. He wasn't even a solid athlete coming out of college -- how many TEs in the NFL have been even "good" without being a decent athlete? His hands are *fine*, maybe even bordering on good, but he lacked the ability to separate, so he's more of a safety valve than a weapon. He's a fine blocker but I wouldn't argue an exceptional one. And this was all before Miocarditis... he's supposed to have improved in any of these areas? To use your word, I think he's an "ok" player, but "ok" players, are depth guys, nothing more.

I don't believe Sweeney is anything more than a depth guy. If he had something we would've seen it by now. Jonnu's going to get a lot more than $8. I doubt very much that we'll be a player for him. I like Brevin Jordan, I think he'd be a great fit with Knox too.