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If the Hopkins option doesn't win in a landslide we need to start a Gofundme for some lobotomies...

Chip left before Royce but he recruited him and they ran the same offense, so I don't think it's unfair. As for Freeman specifically, the dude broke every single one of Reggie Bush's HS records, was an animal in college and looked every bit like he should've been at least a solid contributor in the pros. I guess what you call what he is vs. should've been is both a sea of grey and somewhat unimportant, but suffice it to say that he, along with every other back that's come out of that audience, did not perform well at the NFL level, regardless of expected outcomes. (And this is coming from a HUGE Royce fan, fwiw...)

Take a look at my profile name dude, I'm very familiar with Chip Kelly and his RBs. You're leaving out Royce Freeman (massive bust), DeAnthony Thomas and 2 seasons of Josh Kelley at UCLA. The larger point is his scheme opens massive lanes for RBs that don't always require NFL-level eyes or agility. Do you read/listen to Rotoviz stuff? Dave Caban has done a lot of work on explosive plays and added explosive receptions to his model and it makes Evans look reeeeally enticing for his projected draft capital... Hopefully his phych evals and personality checks cleared cuz there's a potential beast in there...

Charbonnet is an interesting e v a l. He's got a phenomenal build, and for it tested pretty well. I got to see him live last year and he certainly looks the part. The thing I keep coming back to is Chip Kelly RBs. Yes, it's helmet scouting, but Chip RBs haven't faired well in the NFL and Charbonnet transferred from Michigan for a reason. For the draft price it will take to get him (agree on the late 2/early 3 grade) I would probably pass on him/rather we spend the pick elsewhere and take a guy like Evans or Kendre Miller later in the draft, but can definitely see a scenario where he becomes a bellcow back in this league. Can also see him being a massive bust...

He's definitely going higher than we'll want to draft a dude, I think 3rd rd is his floor. Which is too bad, because for awhile his stock was getting undervalued...

This is a weird take... his dad is an assistant coach and his uncle is Dre Bly -- I can't say I know why he's not taking visits, but it's probable that teams have a pretty good idea of what he's about, how he handles his businsess, etc. That said, he's not my favorite wr prospect (or 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th or 5th or 6th...)

I always love comps but some of these are insultingly lazy...

As usual, you and I are pretty well aligned, I was just "defending" Mingo based on the available poll options. It's gross as all getout, but fills a need at a spot I think we need to address. As I said in my original post, we'd be incredibly dumb to not flip a 4 or a 5 for Tillman or Simpson. Of your list, I really like Phillips and would be fine with Johnson as well.

Certainly the highest ceiling of the group, but dude has almost zero floor. Obviously we all hope it doesn't shake out this way, but I think we HAVE to find a contributor at that spot... MIngo's far from perfect, but provides matchup options as a jumbo slot and could potentially be arbitrage for Gabe as well.

Kayshon Boutte -- warts and all -- probably deserves as much, if not more of a consideration than Musgrave in this situation.

Musgrave would be a catastrophically bad pick for Buffalo... All options are poo-poo, and its brutal that Tillman went two picks ahead and Simpson went 4 -- either of those guys would be worth a minor trade up for over this mess, but had to go with Mingo of the options listed...

This makes a lot of sense. Athletically, he's somewhat similar to Hardman, but seems like a much more mature, driven, "has the dawg in him" type football player. Feels like a good fit for them. The question is what KC would have to give up to go get him...

You're not wrong, if people disliked Edmonds, they'll run Noah out of town with torches and pitchforks before season's end. Kid should legitimately look at switching to EDGE... This poll and thread makes me sad.

Not being hyperbolic here when I say that drafting him might've been a tipping point for this franchise (in the wrong direction)...

Contracts get bought out all the time. And I don't think the suggestion is that he's going to be able to pull kids Oregon wouldn't have otherwise, but the difference in recruiting between not having an OC and having a superstar OC (or one you could at least sell as such) is massive.

FWIW, the line of thinking is that he WOULD leave right away, since recruiting is heating up right now.

Hey all, as my name indicates, I'm also an Oregon Duck fan. Just passing along that Oregon's top "insider", Justin Hopkins, mentioned this week that Joe Brady was his bet -- and likely Dan Lanning's first call -- for the Ducks' open OC spot. Brady and Lanning have a good relationship and the thinking is he'd basically be the perfect candidate and also had at least some interest in the job. Separately, there's smoke that *a* hire could happen anytime now (in terms of general timeline/timeframe), and it stands to reason (my speculation) that the optimal timing for a change like this to happen this late in the season would be during a mini-bye week (aka tonight or tomorrow morning). So like I said, may be something, may be nothing, but our QB coach is getting interest from the college ranks, at the very least. Go Bills!

Could be (hence my "pretty sure"). But they're also incentivized to drive eyeballs and traffic, so also wouldn't be the first time a "journalist" sensationalized absolutely nothing. We'll know in an hour!

Pretty certain Tuesday is his vet rest day

Pegulas are close with the Rooney family as well...

The surprise is that he was held out. Could be something (because they're trading him), or absolutely nothing (minor, previously unknown injury/unscheduled rest day, etc.)

Thank you, yes I did. Fixed the title. What excites me about Jenkins is that he can (and does) literally play all 5 spots on the line, he's not just an OG.

https://www.packers.com/team/players-roster/elgton-jenkins/ Per Spotrac, he's making less than $4M per year. Is extremely versatile (which would definitely come in handy with our various OL injuries), and is a FA after this season (both potentially making him attainable and also, possibly contributing to our compensatory picks, if we can't resign him). I have no idea if he's remotely available, but was a surprise practice holdout today...

The only update that matters is that we're 2-0, having beat two of last year's best teams by a combined 55 points while playing 2 rookies and a former 7th round draft pick at his position. If we keep this up, we might not need him until the playoffs, which is when we actually will need him. Until then, we might as well keep letting him get better and better while blowing the doors off teams...

To be clear... I'm not necessarily saying he's making a wise decision -- your response is well put (even if the time-value of money has all but been debunked at this point). I think it's also fair to point out that there are MANY athletes who have gone broke because they trusted the wrong people with their money. No, Lamar isn't a financial expert, but he's also the guy making the money so he obviously knows he can trust that guy. Candidly, I don't even know if that's why he's representing himself, but it feels worthy of pointing out. He's playing a game of chicken and could certainly lose -- without experts providing him guidance, you're certainly right in stating that that could certainly be a conceivable -- maybe even inevitable outcome. What I don't think is debatable at this point is that the Ravens have cost themselves money and/or years, by not at least bending earlier. My issue is that there's too many out there running with the narrative that he (a black man) is a moron and should leave it up to "the experts" (typically white men), when he very clearly is not a moron and has, to-date, made good decisions for himself. Maybe some of that is racial, maybe not, I'm certainly not trying to paint everyone looking at this less-than-commonplace decision as racist -- but some of it has that taste to it. It doesn't take a genius to see what's happening with the salaries at the QB position and the extent to which the Ravens have built their offense around him. You need a QB to win in this league, a lesser QB (and person) was just paid a quarter B, guaranteed by a team in your division. That's all leverage. Maybe he should bring in a #s guy to iron out the details, but it feels silly (at best) to act like one of the best players in the world at his position somehow just has no concept of how to value himself...