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Would heavily depend on the board, to me. I don’t think a backup 1T is a top 3 need, so I’m not sure if I’d even take him at 61, let alone move up for him. But yeah definitely like him as a player

I like McNeil a lot. My original list focuses more on later round guys, I think McNeil is a 2 or a 3, but certainly he’s not getting talked about enough...

Big meh here.

Some interesting pro day results: Daviyon Nixon, DL Height: 6’3″ Weight: 313 lbs Forty-Yard Dash: 4.9 Seconds Vertical Jump: 28.5″ Broad Jump: 8’10” Three-Cone Drill: 7.68 Seconds Twenty-Yard Shuttle: 4.7 Seconds I'd be very okay with him being our 1T pick Ihmir Smith-Marsette, WR Height: 6’1″ Weight: 181 lbs Forty-Yard Dash: 4.43 Seconds Vertical Jump: 37″ Broad Jump: 10’4″ Three-Cone Drill: 7 Seconds Twenty-Yard Shuttle: 4.2 Seconds Bench Press: 10 Reps at 225 lbs Not mind-blowing numbers but plenty good enough. Looks faster in pads than 4.43. Ernest Jones, LB Height: 6’1.5″ Weight: 230 lbs Forty-Yard Dash: 4.72 Seconds Vertical Jump: 38.5″ Broad Jump: 10’6″ Three-Cone Drill: 7.35 Seconds Twenty-Yard Shuttle: 4.30 Seconds Bench Press: 19 Reps at 225 lbs I like this guy more and more. Tape shows up, explosion apparent in testing. I'm guessing this is a guy that teams are higher on than the draftnik community.

Seahawks, Cowboys, Eagles

This is certainly looking WAAAAY too far out, but this should push Pitts down at least a little bit. Should mean Chase gets to Philly at 6 and they were really rumored to be the first team looking at Pitts. After them, really only Carolina feels like a natural/logical landing spot for him in that next handful of picks into the early/mid teens. Cowboys are a possibility but they have a lot of holes to fill and a lot of pass catchers already on board, Giants need to figure out Rudolph's health issues, but usually those things have a way of working themselves out. Based on the $ they gave him, it's apparent that they wanted him pretty badly. After that (barring trades, of course) we're looking at the Chargers at 13 as the next logical spot for him (and then another grouping of teams that don't feel like a slam dunk). Chargers need OL help badly so that's no certainty either... I've said it a lot around here but I have to believe Beane is at least chumming the waters to move up and get him. Whether he lasts that long or not obviously remains to be seen, but its certainly not an impossibility at all now...

That's what's so funny about this particular timing... It really could be both. Between now and when we're on the clock, it's all a chess match, and I truly believe that Beane & co. play the market and make decisions more on value than on specific players or needs. Harris 100% fits exactly what we would need, so this could be both completely true and, if it serves to drive his stock way up, a smokescreen at the same time. He signed Breida for a reason, he loves and thrives in situations where he can be extremely flexible -- I'll bet we see similar rumors about being high on a DE and a CB in the coming weeks too. All of which could be completely true and designed as smoke at the same time...

Yep, tis the season...

Feels worth mentioning that Obada -- whom most on this board consider a project/lottery ticket type player, had a better sack/plays ratio than Aldon Smith did last year. Is he HOF caliber?!?!? In all seriousness, this is the type of guy you can bring in on a 100% prove-it, 0 second chances, crazy amount of scrutiny type of deal only. If he wants to come here and fight for a roster spot while making the veterans minimum, take a pee test daily, have the Bills monitor him 24/7, then sure, let's take a flyer because yes, at one point he was great. All that said, I don't see him being willing to put up with all of that. Like others have said, if he's not a good enough culture fit for the Cowboys, he's an awful fit for us...

It's less the height and weight -- there are plenty of tackles that are 6'5" in the league, and 305 is a little slight for playing weight, but not so much that it's uncommon. The issue is arm length. A great deal of success in the trenches happens with hands and arms and if the guy you're trying to block has significantly longer arms than you, the can be tough to control. Typically edge rushers are longer limbed than DTs, so you can get away with shorter arms inside.

Sweet. Every player receiving a paycheck should prepare, train, study, lift, practice, eat, sleep, want and feel as though they should be a starter. I don't want anyone on the roster that doesn't. That's not a shot at the article or Bates, just a general philosophy. Football is a violent sport where things can change drastically with literally every and any snap of the ball. If Bates keeps this mentality and work ethic, he'll get his shot. Him pushing for or earning a starting spot over Ford, Ike, Mongo or Morse would be a very very good thing for us.

Booooooo

No question the trade value has to make sense. I don’t think the targets thing is all that major of a concern, frankly. Short term — in the first year, he’d be a rookie with a veteran “in front of him” and vets out wide. Sure you give your new toy maybe 50 or 60 targets but that’s not the type of player you’d feed unless he just absolutely explodes, which would be a good problem to have. Longer term, Sanders moves on after this year and you’re splitting 600 targets among 4 main guys. That’s more than enough.

Insane testing numbers, really underwhelming tape. I guess I’d say if he’s our pick at 30 at least he’s basically all upside. That said, actively hoping he’s someone else’s problem and pushes a Paye/Phillips/Ossai to us.

I hated that pick but Whitner over Ngata is every bit as awful, I’d argue worse since ngata is a 1st ballot HOFer

Worth keeping in mind that he's writing for a largely superficial audience. This isn't draftnik.com or the Ispend70hoursaweekbreakingdownfilm twitter handle, this is NFL.com proper, so there's a demand for content that covers a very broad swath of readership. Furthermore, it's entirely possible that this piece was ghostwritten and/or partially quick jots from much longer scouting reports... Gil's extremely well respected in NFL circles. I think there's a reason for that... He's plenty talented, but I think he's gotten a "Draftnik bump" because of his name... He's at best a very borderline top-100 player in my eyes.

Listed on Seattle's website at 306... that's too light for a true 1T, but the kid is talented... wonder if Leslie's interested in carving out a role for him (guessing not, given our cap situation...)

Was just coming to post this: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/25/jarran-reed-suggests-hell-be-cut-tomorrow/ Probably nothing to see here, but the last regime tried like crazy to move up and get him, ended up with Kuandjio instead, if I'm not mistaken.

Nah, Breida's not going to keep this front office from drafting Ettiene or Harris if they think he's the best pick. Breida's more like a safety net in case we make it through the entire draft and a RB fit never feels like reasonable value. If anything, Breida is a head fake to keep other RB needy teams from jumping above us to take a guy we might like than he is a "solution" for the RB position.

Big meh on this one. With one of the 5s or a 6, sure, why not. Hope they're not thinking about him earlier...

NTs are becoming less important by the year. Even if Star wasn't on the roster and the rookie were to start immediately, that wouldn't be good value. Not to mention there's no fits for what you're looking for -- Tyler Shelvin is the only DT on TDN's top 12 DTs that weighs above 315 and there's absolutely no way he's worth a first round pick. Beyond that there are affordable options in free agency and plenty of gap holders that will be found late in the draft. Drafting a backup NT, when you can draft a starting CB, TE, G, possibly DE is not going to have the impact that you're looking for.

You're looking for impact and then drafting a backup, 2-down DL and a developmental pass rusher?

I didn't bother listing PS guys, but yes.

Maybe you didn't fully read my post but I was agreeing with you. But to play devil's advocate... I don't think you can call any of the following guys' spots ironclad locks: Ike, Fromm, Addison, Bates, Dodson, Ford (probably would need to be a trade, but still...), Hollister, Jackson, Daryl Johnson, McKenzie, Neal, Obada, Andre Smith... But again, I agree with you.

Underwear/straight-line/trackshoe speed and in-game/pads-on/spatted-up/football-cleat/navigating-other-players-speed can be two VERY different things...