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Freirmuth was more just a devil’s advocate argument, I’m not a fan of taking him in the first. I like Jordan quite a bit too, but think folks are setting themselves up for disappointment with Tremble if those two are drafted in the same area. Honestly I hate this TE class. Pitts is obviously incredible, but other than him I think PF and Jordan are the only other non-JAGs in the draft. If we miss on those 3 I’d just assume address other spots and sign jake butt, Jesse James or a TE that gets cut.

I’d be really interested to know where they see him. Most of the league thinks he’s gonna have to transition to S, which is plummeting his stock, but I think he’d be fine at cb in our system... talented player who fits our scheme at a discount? Yes please. Makes a lot of sense...

And almost none on them are stars. I’m not advocating for Imatorbhebhe necessarily, but his pro day numbers are some Of the most explosive numbers ever recorded. That’s the type of athleticism that could turn into something special.

Fehoko will go undrafted and is not an nfl athlete.

All Just comes down to use of resources. I think we’d all love to have 4 great wrs, but when you only have 1 good corner, an iffy-at-best TE, aging pass rushers, nothing proven at RB, I’m not sure you can afford to make that investment. At some point it comes down to trusting the front office and coaching staff. Everyone was fairly shocked and skeptical when we signed Beasley and look how that turned out. Ditto for Gabe Davis. Agree that moves need to be made with the future in mind, but some of that involves development and filling holes in FA. You’re concerned about 2 guys leaving after this year...it seems pretty fair — especially if they’re going to be our 3rd or 4th guy — to expect one of those spots to be filled via FA. So we need one more in the long term? Even if Hodgins doesn’t pan out (I’m very much not expecting him too, but guys DO develop), we can afford to take a developmental guy since he’ll be out FIFTH wr this year and develop him to keep the pipeline going.

Yeah if we’re talking about taking about Elijah Moore in the 1st or a slight move up to get eskridge in the early 3rd, I’ll take the latter 10 times out of 10.

Simi Fehoko is NOT a 4.37 guy in pads. He’s not even a 4.57 guy in pads. Seen him play a lot, he’s not an nfl WR.

I agree that we should keep drafting wrs, but I also think wr is a spot where you can manufacture some amount of production. If we’re not needing stars — and by the looks of it, Diggs and davis should have us fairly set for the time being, I don’t think those picks need to be premium picks. I would also caution using our 4 and 5 wide sets as the basis for your thesis when our RBs and TEs both suck, what else are you going to do? That felt like Daboll leaning into our relative strength, rather than any innovative new approach to long term winning football.

Obviously a lot still to play out but I think a cb at 30 starts right away. Wallace is maybe barely sufficient and Jackson is an end of roster guy. You could make a pretty strong argument for Freirmuth to start too. AND a RB at 30 would absolutely be our starter... I can see an argument for Moore, or another 4th wr playing a lot only because RB and TE are arguably our worst two positions, but generally speaking, 4 wr packages aren’t overly common as any sort of “base” in the nfl, so they’d still be a sub-package guy and or injury backup. If you assume he plays maybe half the snaps, I’m not sure his contribution, relative to what a later wr or Hodgins would give you, is worth that high of a draft pick, compared to what you could get at cb, TE or RB.

It’s deep but it’s not THAT deep. He’s one of the freakiest athletes in the history of the draft, has some decent film And was an elite HS recruit. I think he’ll be gone before the 5th rd.

He’d have to slide into the double digits, but absolutely yes to this if he did

I completely get the logic there, and agree that Star could probably use an upgrade sooner rather than later. More of just an ROI perspective. Absent the guy being just an absolute freak, I don’t think there’s as much difference between a 3rd rd 1T and a 5th or 6th rd one when they both have nearly a year to develop.

yep I’d be fine with any of your 3, though I think Shelvin is probably more expensive than we need to be spending on a backup 1T.

Kyle Pitts. In all seriousness, I don’t think I have *one* guy, Jonathan Adams Jr. might be the closest for me. Here’s my thing: of our positions of need, it’s becoming apparent which are deep and which are shallow, so I hope we draft somewhat accordingly: - RB falls off pretty quick after the first 3 rds - ditto for cb - TE depth is nonexistent - it looks like there will probably be a few edge guys into the 5th (Kaindoh, Ellerson Smith, Weaver) - 1T shouldn’t be an early investment - plenty of intriguing WRs in the later rounds. The more I think about it, the more ok I am with taking Etienne or Harris in the 1st...

BIG BIG fan of St. Juste, for most of his college career he was coached up by Rod Chance who’s one of the best teachers in college ball. Fold in his size and relative athleticism for that size and I think you’ve got a longtime starter in the league. Probably not my 1a choice for our 3rd rd pick but I’d be very happy taking him there if we hadn’t already taken a cb.

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Thanks for that, clearly typing to fast lol

Both of whom struggled early in their careers. If we were JUST looking for a pass rusher, Rashed would be fine, but in my eyes you're wanting a guy to come in as a pass rusher now but can develop into a complete DE in the somewhat immediate future. Very likely, that player will have to be at least somewhat bigger than Rashed.

Big Jefferson fan here. Numbers were fine but certainly not eye popping. I think his film is more special than his testing. Rashed's too small to play DE for us, I think, but I've seen him live a couple times and there's a lot to like. Won't fall late enough for a YOLO pick to try him at the Lorax spot, however, so we'll probably have to watch him on another roster. Wright is enormous for a CB and clearly can scoot pretty good. May or may not even get drafted, but could be an interesting developmental guy, our staff are certainly not shy about liking big DBs...

I won't claim to be any sort of expert on Moore -- much of what I know is what I've read from others about him, so take this as mostly second hand with a few of my own inputs... The guy measured in at the Sr. Bowl at 6'1 5/8, 350 and looks like barely has any fat on him at all, which is impressive, especially for a kid that opted out -- that's somebody with discipline and maturity. I also love that he snapped at the Sr. Bowl, shows he's not afraid of competition, willing to work and be a team player. In the little tape I was able to watch, I'd like to see his pad level a little lower from the snap, but he does a good job of getting his butt down and anchoring, so that doesn't appear to be a flexibility issue (which is a good sign/fixable thing). Refinement on his footwork would help too, though it's not bad at all. Balance, like his footwork isn't bad but isn't perfect wither. I think playing around 320 would be ideal for him, probably would help with his footwork and footwork, and allow him to play a little more under control. In comparison to Meinerz, I think Meinerz is just ahead of him in those regards. Plays more under control, has a plan, good footwork, good balance -- he's less raw, so you're getting the cut diamond vs. the uncut one. Moore's an interesting developmental guy though. If you can sneak him onto a practice squad for a couple years, he could turn into something.

You posted this a day early my friend...

100% those were some extremely fun days in my fraternity

Not off, no. Molden’s a bad fit for our backfield and I simply have others ahead of Tryon. I could see him being a decent pick for us in the 3rd, but am hoping we go edge earlier than that and also guessing he goes earlier as well... Nah. It’s about the whole thing for me, the bills’ pick is always added fun but I’d watch every second of a draft that they don’t have even one pick in. I love it that much.

LOVE LOVE LOVE Phillips, but not a Levi O guy AT ALL. Washington's not a well run organization right now and this guy was adequate at best for that defense (to say nothing of suboptimal scheme fit). Lots of guys I'd take over him there. Full disclosure: I hate the huskies with the intensity of a billion suns, so I may be slightly biased. But still, awful fit.

The draft is my Christmas, so I'll never lose interest in it. It'll just take longer to find out we pick, which is mildly annoying.