glazeduck

Thanks, I lurk and read almost every day. Just harder to be really tuned in to the day-to-day stuff on the other side of the country, so I'm generally less informed and opinionated than I am this time of year

LOVE the "take off the jersey" players like that... Put a guy with those in a 'Bama uniform and even as a backup he's a 2nd or 3rd round pick. A lot to like about Elerson Smith!

Yep, this is what just about worst case scenario for us looks like

As a player, I have him as a mid/late 2nd round grade. I think what needs to be considered though is: 1. Our staff seems to be VERY good at identifying undervalued secondary talent 2. They also seem to be pretty solid at developing that talent 3. Meli is an absurdly different athlete 4. Per the tweet I posted, there appears to be a pretty dang good hit rate for big-bodied plus athletes at CB recently. None of that means he'll be a success. It's also probably not the pick that I would make, but if its where the staff chose to go, I could understand it. You're taking a phenomenal athlete and hoping you can mold him into a phenomenal football player -- something they've shown a solid propensity for doing. And again, you have close to, if not a full season of "onramp" for him to develop into the player you're hoping he can become before you really NEED him to perform. Whatever you think of Obi, he was without question an incredibly impressive athlete as well. Add to that, the fact that the Raiders (who drafted Obi) have almost nothing to show for the drafts between 2015-2018, in fact it's almost a 100% bust rate, which to me, speaks as much, if not more to the organizational culture and inability to develop talent, than it does the specific players that are (or in this case, are not) developing.

I posted yesterday that I thought he'd probably be the next CB taken after Farley and Newsome... I don't have him on my board that high, but I do believe that Buffalo has the luxury of being able to take a guy they can develop through the season with the logic that we're probably looking at a 10 or 11 win season even if we're not drafting immediate difference makers... If those guys can be difference makers by the time the playoffs roll around, it's a risk well worth taking. Meli is raw, but in super rare company when it comes to body type and movement. Not a lot of misses on that list...

I think (from the list of players likely to be there) Teven Jenkins and AVT would be the only ones that would be worth considering, and only if you think you can drop them into one of the guard spots as a day-1 starter. Ford has potential as a guard, but we haven't really seen *it* from him there, yet. So if you're getting a guy who can play OT or OG and an improvement over the other guy who can (sort of) play OT and OG, next to the guy who can play OG and OC, I think you're building depth and flexibility really across the whole line with a minimal number of assets. All that said, definitely think there are bigger needs to address.

Barring the obvious names at the very top, the only cb that would represent good value at 30 is Newsome. Melifonwu, purely from a “package” standpoint would probably be the guy after that (still pretty raw though). Molden is a nickel guy, pretty much exclusively, and with limited upside. Samuel would be *okay* value in the 3rd but even then he’d be underwhelming to me. To me, neither offer much, are very exciting prospects or feel like especially good fits for us. There’s a big grouping of cbs in the mid-2nd to mid/late 3rd that would be looking at: Meli, Campbell, Adebo, Trill Williams, Kelvin Joseph, Stokes, Aaron Robinson, St. Juste, Marco Wilson, Shaun Wade, Mukuamu... If we end up drafting a cb, my guess is it’s in this range and very likely one of those guys.

God I hope we don't reach on him. Super limited ceiling to me... I'd be mildly interested if he fell to our 3rd rd. pick but other than that? Hard to imagine there won't be better players on the board...

With the 13th pick, the Los Angeles Chargers select Rashawn Slater, LT, Northwestern. The Vikings @H2o on the clock Took about 3 miliseconds to make this pick -- this is a run, don't walk to the podium kind of no-brainer pick. It's all about protecting QB1. While it'd be fun to reunite Penei Sewell with Herbert, Slater is a great consolation prize and the Chargers expect him to be a stalwart, protecting Justin's backside for the next decade.

I'm not even sure I'd be excited to sign him as a UDFA....

Let's calm down on this... I haven't seen anybody say they think he'd fall to 10. At its most extreme all I've ever seen (and said) is along the lines of "it's potentially possible" or "not outside the realm of possibility". None of that is overstated -- you've got 5 QBs, a franchise LT (possibly 2) and a WR who are without question going in the top 10. In addition to that, each of the teams picking 6-10 -- Denver, Detroit, Carolina, Miami, and Dallas -- either a) have numerous needs, b) intrenched/young/pass-catching TEs, c) shown a disinterest in throwing to the TE in general, or d) some combination of those. 3 (arguably 4, but I'll digress on that one) of them need QBs to boot. The point being, it's not hard to rationalize how the draft order might be setup for Pitts to slide a bit. Now, the draft is never rational, especially when it comes to unicorn players like Pitts, so yes, it's very unlikely that he'd fall to 10. And all of the above does not account for a team like Philly or LAC trading up for him. But can I see, maybe a 1% chance that teams opt to fill needs instead of take luxury pick like Pitts? Pretty easily, yes.

Beane, himself, MIGHT have a burner acct. that he’s on occasionally, but absolutely, without question, there are lower level staffers that monitor player accounts.

Would be pretty tempted to try and move back a couple picks with Oweh and Ossai on the board, but if it breaks that way I’d be very okay with “reaching” a little oh Ossai. All we need out of a DE pick this season is a guy who can develop long-term but go hunt in passing situations. That’s ossai to a tee!

Been here forever, usually only pop up to post around the draft.

I’ll say Tyler Shelvin. Not because he’s not talented, I just think 1T is highly replaceable and almost impossible to differentiate yourself in. A 3rd on Shelvin feels like a waste when you can get a similar player in the 5th or 6th with a guy like Jones, Tonga or Slaton

Bump?

Chargers, eagles, cowboys

It's not at all, actually. But I'm sure glad I put in the effort to explain it to you since you very clearly got absolutely nothing out of it. Why ask questions if you're not open to responses other than what you're looking for?

More to being a deep threat than just speed. I think specifically, what we're looking for are guys who can get deep on the outside. That brings into play things like release, hand-fighting, body control, ability to mix up speeds, etc. Miller's fast enough, but from what I've seen, he's more of a slot guy and wins most often on lateral routes, as opposed to vertical routes. I could see him being a weapon stretching the seam, but I don't see him succeeding in an outside WR role, especially with Diggs and Davis in the longterm plans.

"Like" might be too strong of a strong word, but in the event that Star is not cutting it AND we don't draft a rookie capable of holding his own, DaQuon Jones, Steve McClendon, Daniel McCullers, Abry Jones, Domata Peko, Snacks Harrison could all be worth a look. And, in this scenario, if we're supposing that Buffalo doesn't draft any of the 8ish 1Ts available in the draft, there's also the possibility of additional veteran cuts (because other teams WILL be drafting them). I'm not Brandon Beane, but I see 1T as a very plug & play position. That's not to say that there aren't better or worse players out there, but it's almost impossible to have a superstar at that position, so if you're going to get, say an "80" out of one guy and a "75" out of another and there's a big difference in cost, I'd opt for the 75. Given the relative depth at the position in the draft and knowing there are at least serviceable bodies in FA, it's not a position I'm wanting us to splurge on...

There are a LOT of reasonable solutions in FA left, too. We'll be fine here even if Star isn't up to snuff.

They're a mess. Ownership is cheap so they're trying to make it work with Nagy one more season. I called this a "must-win" season for them about a month ago and people laughed. That said, I think the argument is that they have enough on the defensive end to be competitive. ARob, Kmet, Mooney and Montgomery with a QB that doesn't make a lot of mistakes isn't sexy but could win some games. It's a thin margin there, but it's looking like they're going to be in a lot of 17-13 type games...

Yeah I could definitely see it, definitely agree he needs a new start (would certainly help my dynasty team!). It seems as though we're looking at speedy KR/deep threat guys and bigger guys and Miller's not really either of those things, hence my thinking of them waiting to see how the draft falls out first, but even as just a replacement or camp competition for Duke, I'd be all for it.

I liked this guy coming out and for whatever reason, he's not really clicked... Feels more like a guy who might be worth a future pick if we opt to go elsewhere in the draft. Guessing someone else likes him more than we do, but could certainly do worse and would be an interesting future replacement for Beas...

Tonga's an interesting one. I'm discounting just about EVERY BYU player this year because of their absolutely silly/fluky scheduling situation, but he's been a solid performer for years. 1Ts are very replaceable in my eyes, so I think I hope we just take the last "solid" option on the board, but I do love me some big polys in the trenches. Wouldn't hate it if we took him late enough! Also LOVE Alim! He's probably my biggest exception to the "replaceable" rule in this class...