SirAndrew

I’m tired of hearing about this vaunted Ravens defense. They sure aren’t showing up today. The NFL is about outscoring people.

I’m still a little disappointed in the KC loss to have coherent Bills related thoughts, but the passing aspect worries. Brady actually did a good job, but we don’t know if he can scheme a reliable passing game. We scored points, and played good ball, but I don’t know if that’s a sustainable style long term.

I’ll give it chance, but I think this is the case of a head coach with a very particular vision. He wants a coordinator where he gets more input in how the offense functions.

Good numbers, it’s amazing because for some reason it seemed like he was always injured to me, but that’s not true. I think comparing him to Kelce exaggerates that, because Kelce is never out with injury, or so it seems. Gronk had a couple years where he missed half the year, Kelce seems to play every game throughout his career. He’s the one constant on that offense that doesn’t go away, and allows it to function.

Yeah, Allen’s divisional rounds against KC have been among the best QB performances in league history. It will just get lost in time because we didn’t win anything. Manning and his team had a meltdown whenever they had to leave their dome.

Make sure I’m in Buffalo to join the biggest Super Bowl celebration this country has ever seen.

You’re right, but I think Buffalo has something unique that only Green Bay could have. Buffalo is one of the smallest cities in the NFL. It’s often referred to as a city with a small town feel. The impact of Bills football on the area is greater than other areas. If someone doesn’t agree with this, that’s fine, but there’s no way I can’t see this fact. The entire area is attached to what happens on game day. It’s what everyone talks about at work on Monday morning. You could easily live in the suburbs of Boston, and not hear a mention of the Pats on Monday morning at work. I’m not questioning Pats fans in particular, there’s millions of them, but the percentage of people who care in the metro area is smaller imo. An extremely high percentage of Buffalonians care about the Bills. That’s what makes it special to me. We also don’t have MLB, or the NBA in the city either. I think fans in places like Detroit are also great. They’re probably amazing to a player like Goff after years in LA, but it’s still a bigger city with more titles than Buffalo. I’ve never seen a place where random role players can’t walk through a mall without being noticed, and that’s Buffalo.

You have a good point, but I’m not convinced that much separates the best defensive teams from the average ones. Those teams have good defenses, but they also have dynamic offense. We’re never going to see the 85 Bears or Dilfer Ravens again. The Ravens have Jackson, while SF has a dynamic offensive coach along with good receivers and CMC. I’m not about to call the Ravens or 49ers defense overrated, but sometimes the best defense is a good offense. Those teams invested in their offense, particularly the 49ers with hiring Shanahan. One player like Bosa makes a huge impact on defense. The problem is the difficulty in finding a guy like Bosa. The Lions have the same luxury with Hutchinson. Those guys are game changers, making the entire defense look better.

Good summary, Beane always seems to have a decent grasp of things, but I’ll add a few thoughts. I’m good with most of what Beane says, and agree, but I’ll share a couple differing opinions. I’m with the OP that I’d like to hear a commitment to building around Allen. It worries we’ll be going heavy on defense again. It sounds insane, but I’m not convinced anyone in this organization truly appreciates the greatness of Josh Allen. Maybe it’s a case of being too close to a situation, but it seems like they don’t get it. The comments that we need more speed players is one I’d frame differently as well. We need dependable receivers that Allen can count on, not necessarily speed guys. I want a number one with reliable hands who’s a good route runner. Speed guys aren’t the only options at receiver. In fact it can very difficult to find receivers with speed and good hands. Tyeeek Hill made everyone become too obsessed with speedy receivers. Lets hope we draft a receiver in the early rounds, rather than think we’re finding a late gem because the guy is fast.

I’m not worried about defense at all. I like McDermott’s defensive scheme, but ultimately the NFL comes down to outscoring opponents. Quit the ball control offense, trust the defense to do just enough, and play ball. Defense has been legislated out of the game. If you have enough guys to make a few big plays, that’s all you can ask on defense. We have that with players like Milano and Douglas returning.

I think the Chiefs have overtaken the Pats for my least favorite team of all time. The Chiefs have a trashy obnoxious element that surpasses any team I’ve ever seen. The Mahomes/Kelce suite reminds me way too much of some crumby neighbors we had growing up.

I’m surprised by some of the thoughts here. I’ll always say this is the best NFL fanbase because the special emotional attachment the city has to this team. This team means more to that city and the Buffalo diaspora than any other team. A Super Bowl victory would be the biggest party any city has ever seen. I don’t have strong enough words to describe what makes this so special. I don’t understand how anyone can be a Bills fan and think this is a typical fanbase. I’m sorry if some of you are embarrassed by stupid antics from some fans. Isn’t it fair to say most of this behavior comes from twenty something dudes? What do you expect? There is also an abundance of bandwagon fans who might act foolish as well. There are more people who care about this team than just social media loudmouths and poorly behaved fans who attend games.

Gronk was injured quite often and the team continued to win titles. The Chiefs aren’t going to do the same without Kelce imo. That’s why I gave my vote to Mahomes/Kelce.

It’s good to hear an opposing fan prospective. I’m seeing it the same way. I think fans get lost in wins and losses, often forgetting what’s sustainable. The winning streak under Brady isn’t a sustainable way to win championships with Allen at QB. Allen was throwing for around 200 yards a game in the last seven regular season games, that’s not how we win a Lombardi. This regime seems set on playing ball control offense. It’s a delicate game of keep away that leaves a thin margin of error. One mistake, turnover, or punt is devastating when you don’t play full throttle on offense.

People saying this fanbase is average, have no clue about other NFL fanbases. That stadium would have been empty during the wild card round in any other city. That weather would have every other fanbase at home. The bad apples are another story, but it’s also more of a commentary on the ills of social media.

I think his first season was a showcase of brilliant coaching, minus the Peterman debacle. His defensive schemes were amazing, and this team won games they had no business winning. McD had players in the perfect position to make plays, particularly on defense. Eventually Josh Allen comes along, and that changes everything, unfortunately I don’t McD changed his philosophy enough to fit having an elite QB. Growth is crucial in all areas of life. McD seems like a great person, but I think he’s often too stubborn in his ways.

Dan Marino and Josh Allen are the best QB’s on that list who never/haven’t won a Super Bowl. The other guys are a level lower than those two.

I don’t understand how people can think Beane is amazing, yet feel the need to draft more defense. That’s what we’ve done, and it hasn’t worked out. If you think this draft should be defense heavy, that’s an acknowledgment we’ve drafted poorly on defense. Quite frankly, I don’t trust this team to judge defense talent. We have a first round CB who hasn’t contributed, why do I trust any defensive pick? I like Beane, nothing against his talent, I’m just saying it hasn’t worked out, let’s not keep doing the same thing. We obviously have holes to fill on defense, but I don’t think the draft should go too heavy on defense. Free agency is a decent option to fill those holes with some bargain signings. It’s probably the hot thing for national media/experts to think we need more defense with the way Mahomes dominated, but we had a mash unit out there. This defense looks different with some of our starters back.

I actually agree with this. I think McD has a lot of input into this offense. The winning steak hid some major flaws with this offense. This is a McD “complimentary” football offense. I realize that football isn’t about statistics, but Allen only threw for an average of 212 yards per game the last seven weeks. I don’t think that’s how you build a winner with an all time great QB. Sure, a lack of receivers had a lot to do with it, but I think this regime likes that style of ball.

This is why I’m amazed how many fans want Brady back. His offense did score some points, but it looked like a college offense built around a team with no talent.

Bills fans I’ve spoken to seem to be split between wanting a rebuild, and others thinking we deserve a participation trophy. I think we’re stuck in an endless cycle of playoffs loses with this regime. I don’t fully understand why anyone would be afraid of some level of change.

Honestly I didn’t think the crowd was great. That probably didn’t have much to do with losing, but they weren’t that loud. I think half of these people are ready to fall asleep after partying all day.

I was probably the least enthusiastic heading into this season that I’d ever been. Nothing changed during the offseason to convince me the end result would be any different, and now that’s been proven. This ending is completely predictable with the current regime. I think we’ve reached our peak, unfortunately. I’d never root against the Bills, but I felt alright during our midseason rough patch. I actually hoped a bad season might bring much needed change next season. Instead we got hot at the end, and they’re going to run it back next year.

It was bad, but not as bad as everyone thinks. Martin couldn’t kick the ball more than twenty yards anyway. Martin kicking in this game is one of the most underrated coaching blunders of this game. Sending Martin out there clearly injured was ridiculous. The defense was bad, but field position does make a difference. At the very least, a couple longer punts would have run more clock, forcing KC into longer drives.

McDermott and Brady need to go, but they won’t. To be fair, that was a terrible couple of plays from Allen.