
SirAndrew
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Not a bad list, except I don’t find Dak or Aaron Rodgers very intriguing. I expect more of the same
from both this season. I’d take one of those guys out for Kyler Murray. It’s going to be a huge boom or bust year for Murray.
4 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:Nice list - understandably QB heavy. If it were a pure QB list, I'd add Minshew, Tua, Mayfield, Rivers and Murray to the list. And for old times sake, Tuhrod as well.
Agree, I can’t criticize the list for too many QB’s, it’s kind of an important position.
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32 minutes ago, mattynh said:
After week one. No guarantees. But I agree kind of surprised he would not go with best team in the league. But between non guaranteed money and playing time maybe he valued playing and money over a chance to win a sb
Yep, most football players just want to play. Championships are overrated if you weren’t a contributor to your team winning it. It depends on personality type imo, but I wouldn’t feel as thrilled with getting a Super Bowl ring as an inactive player vs being a starter.
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5 hours ago, DrPJax said:
I have to admit I am a little skeptical that McD has addressed the O enough to keep up with KC , RAVENS, and even the Titans who also got aggressive with their D by adding Clowney. New O additions of Diggs , and three rookies ( Moss, Davis, Gilliam ) , with a tight end room with Knox being the only one with much upside and an o line basically unchanged, does not show a great deal of change that will guarantee , IMHO, a vastly improved offense that can score more than 19 points a game. McD , who has had great success with his D, continued to bring in more support with adding several proven defensive veterans and even opted to take Epenesa when JK Dobbins had fallen into our lap (a 2000 yard proven rusher from a major conference who was immediately nabbed by the Ravens to bolster their already impressive rushing attack), appears to keep his emphasis on defense even after we are seeing the leagues more successful franchises featuring very productive offenses. We can’t ignore KC’s ability to score and they added even more fire power to their O. The road to the SB will most likely go thru KC or Baltimore for the AFC teams as I see the Bills as a 10/11 win team given the schedule. We still have zero playoff wins with McD ( love the guy and love his culture, but he needs improvement as losing a 16 point lead in the wild card game reflects on a need for game management improvement ), and I am not sure just adding Diggs and three rookies ( 4 if we include Bass) in a COVID shortened season translates to more offensive success on the road against already proven offensive juggernaut franchises. We did also lose to Baltimore at home last year so we can’t just downplay them either as I routinely see little mention of them as a team we might have to go thru to get to the SB.
So, did we do enough on O? Not sure until we see if Allen can progress as I am hoping he does , and I also have to see if Daboll can use Diggs and Moss creatively in a way that matches all the preseason hype. So far McD continues to be very aggressive with addressing his D, but I am not sure he has done enough to get the offense up around 24/25 points a game where we can actually be a bona fide Super Bowl contender. Peter King suggesting the fins take the division is ludicrous, but we are not locks to knock off KC, TITANS , RAVENS , and the SB is really the ultimate goal. It’s about to get real!
Coaching is my greatest concern with this offense. We have lots of talent, but Daboll hasn’t shown the ability to lead a quality offense. We have no idea if our talent will be utilized properly. I love everything about this team. McD and Beane have righted the ship, but I’m not sure how many good offense minded guys we have on this coaching staff. I’m fine with the Singletary and Moss duo, and happy we didn’t use a high pick on a guy like Dobbins.
Our biggest question mark on offense is the development of Allen, and the TE position. We’ll need to be bold and innovative on offense to compete with teams like KC and Baltimore. Playing not to lose isn’t going to win a title. McD needs to learn not to slip back into a shell with the offense when they take a lead. We basically allow opponents to get back in the game by taking our foot off the pedal with our defense first mentality. We have the talent, it’s time for the coaches to trust them this season.
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20 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
So Leftwich wants him after working with him a season, and Arians is willing to give him a shot. Kind of doesn't mesh with the "spoiled rich kid who lacks work ethic" narrative.
Yeah, I don’t understand where the “ spoiled rich kid” narrative comes from in regards to him as a football player. There are millions of successful people who grew up as “spoiled rich kids”. I think people just don’t take a liking to the guy, and write their own Rosen narrative at this point. He might prove to be a bust, but it’s because he didn’t have the tools to make it (weak arm etc), not because he’s spoiled.
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Definitely going with Baltimore. They have talent all over their roster, and I think Pittsburgh get overrated just by being Pittsburgh. I don’t think we’ll see the Big Ben of old. The injury concerns with him are quite real at this point. Having an entire year off isn’t going to do Ben any favors imo. He also doesn’t have Brown or Bell these days, but I could be wrong. I actually like where the Bengals are headed more than the Steelers at this point. Lamar Jackson might get “figured out” somewhat, but a lesser version of Jackson would still be great. I think too many people here are predicting Jackson’s downfall, and expecting Big Ben of the early 2010’s to come back. Just because Big Ben is “a real QB” in the eyes of some, doesn’t mean Jackson isn’t the better QB right now.
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1 hour ago, ProcessAccepted said:
I don't know about Mayfield. Granted he had a great rookie year and got some big time commercial deals out of it. I'm thinking that after this season the only commercials you're going to see him on will be for products like Mr Pillow and Shamwow.
Agree, Cleveland never had a chance. That locker room has such a volatile mix of personalities, none of whom have ever won in the NFL. Talent doesn’t matter when you have a QB with questionable leadership skills and no maturity. Any chance that Mayfield had to be a good QB was tossed away when Beckham, Hunt, and that circus came to town last year. The offseason accolades last year likely fed into that arrogant egotistical part of Mayfield you don’t want to feed. Mayfield is a more restrained version of Manziel. Not as much off field drama, and a better skill set, but I question his work ethic when things get tough. Cleveland is the ultimate “anti-process” team. Talent doesn’t matter when you have zero character on the roster.
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This one is easy for me because Rodgers is easily the best QB in that division. He’s not the same guy he once was, but is still very good. Cousins can’t be trusted, Stafford’s stats have always been the best part of his overrated game, and the Bears have Mitch.
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20 hours ago, ScottLaw said:
Yes, but Tyrod doesn't deserve any credit for this....
How great would it be if Daboll, Allen and the Bills offense could field ONE top 10 scoring offense?
I wanted Tyrod out of here, because I knew we weren’t winning a Super Bowl with him. Moving on was still a risk because you might be downgrading the QB position inadvertently. He just didn’t have what it takes to lead a team anywhere. The TT fans never understood that.
However, I also recognize in hindsight that he was one of our best post Kelly QB’s. That isn’t saying much because we’ve had garbage, but he deserves some credit. The same people who trash Tyrod look back at the Bledsoe, Fitz, and even the Orton years fondly. I’ll never understand that. Tyrod had more success with this team than many of those guys who are often fondly remembered. I was a harsh critic of TT, but even I must admit what he accomplished here. It was nothing spectacular, but he doesn’t deserve to be trashed, while we reminisce about how amazing Fitz was.
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33 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:
I don’t think they’re exactly comparable. Daboll’s passing schemes are likely better and they prefer very different personnel groupings. Roman’s run schemes are the most innovative ground attack since Shanahan shot Terrell Davis to stardom with zone blocking. As a result, Roman’s schemes aren’t reliant upon traditional QB play, but those schemes and his playcalling tend to get figured out by the better defenses after a few seasons. It remains to be seen if Baltimore can overcome what occurred here and in SF.
I agree, it has yet to be seen if Baltimore can overcome what happened to Roman here and in SF. However, I don’t think it’s unfair to say Roman is more accomplished than Daboll at this point in his career. Roman has struggled to produce a passing game, but his teams have had success on offense, regardless of how it got done. Daboll hasn’t had any success outside of NE with an NFL offense. Daboll might have great passing games schemes, but we have yet to see it actually work in the NFL. Daboll needs to prove it this season.
25 minutes ago, Figster said:Well said, Greg Roman has found the perfect fit with Lamar Jackson IMO. Elte RB that can throw the football.
The Roman > Daboll analogy is probably true in Baltimore.
Roman>Daboll with any team. Daboll hasn’t proven anything in this league imo. Comparing Roman and Daboll’s offense is comparing apples to oranges, as they both have different styles. With that said, Daboll hasn’t done much as an OC. I hope our offense has tons of success, and we can consider him an accomplished OC by the end of this season. I’m simply addressing what Daboll has done up to this point in his career, I’m not trying to harshly criticize him.
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We have the roster, but this season goes as far as Josh Allen takes us. I don’t like to oversimplify things, but it is that simple. That leaves me believing anything between 9-13 wins is possible. We truly get to find out who our QB is this season.
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28 minutes ago, Doc said:
He was 0% in 2 games last year. Namely the Browns game. Thankfully it didn't change much WRT the outcome of the season. But at 35, he's only going to get worse.
And patience. The Bills have given-up too soon on several K's they've drafted.
Exactly, you also need a guy who consistently kicks touchbacks in today’s NFL. If I remember correctly, Hauschka struggled with extra points at times also.
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15 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:
I don't even particularly like (or dislike) Reich, found his Tebow-esque proselytizing annoying, and always knew that Kelly was the far better QB. I just couldn't sit back and let the "one bright moment in a career of awful play" comment pass without correcting it. Reich was fantastic as a backup and spot starter for the Bills. The passing numbers and his record back this up. I don't particularly care about what he did for awful teams late in his career. But to insinuate that he was some sort of bum while he was with the Bills is a straight falsehood.
Also, the 2 losses you reference with Reich as a starter in '90 and '91 were the final games of each season where we rested the majority of our starters and all of our star players. And Reich only played one half against the Redskins in '90 before giving way to Gilbert. The previous week Reich helped us wrap up the division and home field advantage against the Dolphins, throwing for 234 yards, 2 TDs, no INTs and posting a 139 QB rating. So, from '89-'93 in games in which he started for the Bills that mattered, with a full complement of talent around him (and he didn't even have that against the Oilers since Thurman and some of our best defensive players were injured), Reich was 6-0, posted QB ratings of 80.2, 126, 146.8, 139.8, 115.9 and 118.0, and threw 14 touchdowns against 2 interceptions.
The only loss he had as a starter in a game that mattered for the Bills (meaning playoff games, regular season but in playoff contention, not resting starters, etc.) was the '94 New England game that knocked us out of the playoffs. I was there and he was actually quite good for the first three quarters, but we fumbled on our first three possessions of the third quarter (all on pass receptions) and what had been a 17-3 lead had evaporated and was a 38-17 blowout by the 4th quarter.
If what I presented above (without even mentioning the greatest comeback in NFL history), isn't considered "clutch" for a backup QB, then I'd love to hear your definition of clutch.
No reasonable person is going to say Reich had Hall of Fame talent, but I don’t understand people implying he was a bad QB. He played well for us in the prime of his career. Reich did everything you could ask from a backup QB. He played smart football, utilized the talent around him, and didn’t make mistakes. That 14/2 TD to interception ratio in games that mattered says it all. He’s not Fitz,
or some middling QB who throws games away. Reich always gave his team a chance to win. That’s all you want from a backup, and that makes him a good QB.
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18 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:
Kelly looked shaky as hell, threw for 177 yards 1 TD and 2 picks in that game. We won with our defense, running game and Christie's leg. Frank Reich absolutely could have easily won that game.
Thurman won a lot of games for that team. I realize he’s in the HOF, but he’s almost undervalued by fans in some aspects. Kelly was spectacular, but he had tons of average games where Thurman carried the team. Kelly is a legend, but that legend is lessened if he didn’t have Thurman.
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I’m not big on the 2014 season like many others. I mostly remember it for being the season that ended EJ Manuel’s career, and a team that played terribly against Oakland and Denver, with a QB (Orton) who looked mentally ready for retirement the last few weeks. I’m strangely grateful for the Ryan years that followed. I think we needed a complete restructuring of the organization for a coach to succeed, and that didn’t happen until McDermott and Beane came in.
I wasn’t a Whaley fan, Russ Brandon still was around, and the franchise was a total mess. Whaley was terrible in the draft, and the FO was a bit unstructured. This wasn’t a place where a young upcoming coach was going to succeed in 2015 imo. We wasted those years on a guy who isn’t going to succeed elsewhere with Ryan. McDermott and Beane were able to bring structure and focus into this franchise, and now have the power they need to succeed.
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59 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:
concessions would be closed of course. that is easy. restrict restroom occupancy. masks on for everyone. this is fairly easy to manage. social distance at the gate (hell there won't be more than 10- 15k allowed at the game. Lower bowl only. tape off every other row. other sports have done this. really not that difficult in an 100% outdoor, windy area around the venue of that size.
too bad the Bills play in New York State. nothing will happen there.
Yeah, but if concessions are closed, you’d have to at least be able to bring in water. The game is three hours long. I was just making the point that with people eating/drinking it would be hard to dictate when a mask should be on or off. That’s why you don’t need a mask when seated at a restaurant. Just seat people from separate parties more than six feet apart, and no mask needed while seated. I realize that won’t happen, but it just seems more feasible imo.
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Just my take, not a comment on Covid itself at all. I couldn’t care less if I can go to game this season. After spending 40 hours a week wearing a mask, I’d rather sit in front of the tv watching the Bills in comfort.
3 minutes ago, arcane said:All teams should allow limited capacity fans, with masks and temp checks at the gate.
I don’t get how you make the mask thing really work though. Are they going to ban food and drinks ? How would they determine when you are or aren’t eating ? Who enforces all of this ? I don’t see who would be stopping fans from loading up on a bunch to eat during the game, so they could keep the mask off. I’d be like the restaurant rule. They’d almost need to just sit people six feet apart, and only require masks in the concourse imo.
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59 minutes ago, Doc said:
Yeah but I don't recall him even reaching the automatic 25 yard line.
Yeah, that’s the problem. I don’t care how elite you might be as a return man these days. It’s unlikely you’ll bring the ball past the 25 from deep in the end zone on a regular basis. Back when a touchback was placed at the 20, there was less risk in losing yardage from taking it out. I value having the ball at the 25 on a regular basis more than I do the small chance it’s taken out to midfield. Big returns can be huge, but the consistency of starting at the 25 outweighs one long return mixed with a bunch where you actually lose field position. Don’t get me wrong, Roberts is a good player to have, but I’d prefer he take his chances from outside the end zone, or at least just a few yards deep. I don’t want to see anyone taking the ball out from deep in the end zone.
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15 hours ago, ScottLaw said:
Brian Daboll was another bad choice for OC by McDermott.
I don’t trust him to be the guy who can develop talent on offense, and utilize the talent we already have properly. His scheme is overly complicated to the point of being a hindrance, and he constantly outsmarts himself. I also don’t trust him with talent like Diggs on the roster. Will he be smart enough to make an effort to get Diggs involved on a regular basis? Or will he try to outsmart everyone by not properly utilizing a guy like Diggs ?
I don’t want a basic smash mouth offense, but Daboll’s offense is like an overpriced foreign sports car. It looks great, but it’s difficult to work with, and you’re lucky to get it out of the garage on a regular basis when things break down. Daboll has yet to build an identity for this offense, because he subscribes to the Patriot way of running a chameleon like offense. One week is run heavy, while the next is pass happy. That’s great when you have Brady under center, but a young guy like Allen needs more consistency and direction to be comfortable.
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2 hours ago, whatdrought said:
Man I’d love it if Tua sucks. I was so hoping he’d end up in LA cause I’d rather root against Herbert, but, here we are.
I just have a feeling Tua is going to be a bust. He has a funky throwing motion, injury prone, and benefited greatly from playing with Bama. He might turn out to be decent, but I don’t see him being much better than mediocre. He doesn’t scare me in the division, I’ll just say that.
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9 minutes ago, Midwest1981 said:
Not sure if this counts as one now, now that we're seeing the diametric opposite, which is just what competence, intelligence, preparedness, etc., in our front-office and ownership can do to a team. But since a decent amount of fans, at least at the time, insisted otherwise, I'll throw out this: our parity-defying 17-year Playoff drought from 2000 through 2016 wasn't due to the Patriots' dominance (certainly didn't help effectively beginning the season 0-2) OR some "curse"- it was due to routine and abject ineptitude of the leaders in charge, many/most of whom never belonged there. Whether it was Donahoe or 80-year-old and never-been-a-GM-before Levy or the nebulous "Inner Circle" (Brandon, Modrak, Jauron, etc.) or Buddy Nix, who was hired in large part because Ralph Wilson "had heard of him before," those sort of poor decisions naturally resulted in perennial disappointment for our fanbase.
The results on the field spoke for themselves but you don't institute 'Cash to the Cap,' hire retread head coaches not particularly successful in their first go-around, execute a trade of a HOF-talent and eventual inductee, overvalue the RB position visa vi the draft (repeatedly), etc., and produce positive results.
Yeah, I never joined forums like this, or talked much football with fellow Bills fans during the drought because that opinion was very unpopular. Any criticism of the franchise being a train wreck was taken very personally by most fans. Somehow, good things were just around the corner (even though we didn’t have a pro roster), and any criticism of management was just being negative.
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1 minute ago, DCofNC said:
Actually, I don’t think that’s all that crazy. Aside from QB, Whaley built a strong team as evidence by the year McDermott took over, they were a playoff team, with a mediocre QB. The really regrettable part is not letting Whaley actually take his QB that draft, I feel it would have been Watson, but Maholmes was obviously there too. By playing it “safe” the Bills blew it. Imagine the possibilities of that team even with the rookie version of Watson. He was obsessed with stature, but he had built a good team, regardless of what people want to think. The contracts were not always good, but why Overdorf isn’t given more blame for that is my real question. What a lot of people don’t know, DW was THE reason they signed Mario Williams and yes, I understand he went on to struggle with Rex turning him into a friggin LB, but he was a really good signing when he was being used correctly.
Whaley did well in free agency, but QB wasn’t the only thing he missed in the draft. Maybe I undervalue some of the players he drafted, but I thought every Whaley draft was very weak.
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1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
Isn't a jersey also team gear? I've never understood the jersey's are only for kids crowd.
Yes, I wear jersey's on game day.
I’ve never understood that crowd either, and I don’t even wear a jersey on game day. I just don’t understand why anyone cares what another dude chooses to wear.
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Chan Gailey wasn’t an offensive genius. We often blame those years on Gailey’s inability to manage both sides of the ball, but the reality is different. His offense was a gimmick that only worked a few weeks every season, then we’d have long streaks of struggling to score points. People mostly remember the exciting Gailey games, but forget the dreadful 24-10 type loses those seasons were also filled with.
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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:
Sal Cappacio believes this is Tyler Bass's job to lose. I believe that as well.
Hauschka leg isn't strong anymore. He was missing short today a few times.
Yeah, and if Hauschka is coming up short from 50+ in OP during August, that’s not a good sign for what he can do when fall/winter weather gets here. Starting NFL kickers have the leg strength to make 52 yarders. You have to move on from a guy who doesn’t.
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Agree, we could win an ugly game and go on to win the Super Bowl, but we need to see this team take the next step. An ugly victory isn’t going to convince anyone we’re anything more than a one and done playoff team.