SirAndrew

Agree, we could win an ugly game and go on to win the Super Bowl, but we need to see this team take the next step. An ugly victory isn’t going to convince anyone we’re anything more than a one and done playoff team.

Not a bad list, except I don’t find Dak or Aaron Rodgers very intriguing. I expect more of the same from both this season. I’d take one of those guys out for Kyler Murray. It’s going to be a huge boom or bust year for Murray. Agree, I can’t criticize the list for too many QB’s, it’s kind of an important position.

Yep, most football players just want to play. Championships are overrated if you weren’t a contributor to your team winning it. It depends on personality type imo, but I wouldn’t feel as thrilled with getting a Super Bowl ring as an inactive player vs being a starter.

Coaching is my greatest concern with this offense. We have lots of talent, but Daboll hasn’t shown the ability to lead a quality offense. We have no idea if our talent will be utilized properly. I love everything about this team. McD and Beane have righted the ship, but I’m not sure how many good offense minded guys we have on this coaching staff. I’m fine with the Singletary and Moss duo, and happy we didn’t use a high pick on a guy like Dobbins. Our biggest question mark on offense is the development of Allen, and the TE position. We’ll need to be bold and innovative on offense to compete with teams like KC and Baltimore. Playing not to lose isn’t going to win a title. McD needs to learn not to slip back into a shell with the offense when they take a lead. We basically allow opponents to get back in the game by taking our foot off the pedal with our defense first mentality. We have the talent, it’s time for the coaches to trust them this season.

Yeah, I don’t understand where the “ spoiled rich kid” narrative comes from in regards to him as a football player. There are millions of successful people who grew up as “spoiled rich kids”. I think people just don’t take a liking to the guy, and write their own Rosen narrative at this point. He might prove to be a bust, but it’s because he didn’t have the tools to make it (weak arm etc), not because he’s spoiled.

Definitely going with Baltimore. They have talent all over their roster, and I think Pittsburgh get overrated just by being Pittsburgh. I don’t think we’ll see the Big Ben of old. The injury concerns with him are quite real at this point. Having an entire year off isn’t going to do Ben any favors imo. He also doesn’t have Brown or Bell these days, but I could be wrong. I actually like where the Bengals are headed more than the Steelers at this point. Lamar Jackson might get “figured out” somewhat, but a lesser version of Jackson would still be great. I think too many people here are predicting Jackson’s downfall, and expecting Big Ben of the early 2010’s to come back. Just because Big Ben is “a real QB” in the eyes of some, doesn’t mean Jackson isn’t the better QB right now.

Agree, Cleveland never had a chance. That locker room has such a volatile mix of personalities, none of whom have ever won in the NFL. Talent doesn’t matter when you have a QB with questionable leadership skills and no maturity. Any chance that Mayfield had to be a good QB was tossed away when Beckham, Hunt, and that circus came to town last year. The offseason accolades last year likely fed into that arrogant egotistical part of Mayfield you don’t want to feed. Mayfield is a more restrained version of Manziel. Not as much off field drama, and a better skill set, but I question his work ethic when things get tough. Cleveland is the ultimate “anti-process” team. Talent doesn’t matter when you have zero character on the roster.

This one is easy for me because Rodgers is easily the best QB in that division. He’s not the same guy he once was, but is still very good. Cousins can’t be trusted, Stafford’s stats have always been the best part of his overrated game, and the Bears have Mitch.

I wanted Tyrod out of here, because I knew we weren’t winning a Super Bowl with him. Moving on was still a risk because you might be downgrading the QB position inadvertently. He just didn’t have what it takes to lead a team anywhere. The TT fans never understood that. However, I also recognize in hindsight that he was one of our best post Kelly QB’s. That isn’t saying much because we’ve had garbage, but he deserves some credit. The same people who trash Tyrod look back at the Bledsoe, Fitz, and even the Orton years fondly. I’ll never understand that. Tyrod had more success with this team than many of those guys who are often fondly remembered. I was a harsh critic of TT, but even I must admit what he accomplished here. It was nothing spectacular, but he doesn’t deserve to be trashed, while we reminisce about how amazing Fitz was.

I agree, it has yet to be seen if Baltimore can overcome what happened to Roman here and in SF. However, I don’t think it’s unfair to say Roman is more accomplished than Daboll at this point in his career. Roman has struggled to produce a passing game, but his teams have had success on offense, regardless of how it got done. Daboll hasn’t had any success outside of NE with an NFL offense. Daboll might have great passing games schemes, but we have yet to see it actually work in the NFL. Daboll needs to prove it this season. Roman>Daboll with any team. Daboll hasn’t proven anything in this league imo. Comparing Roman and Daboll’s offense is comparing apples to oranges, as they both have different styles. With that said, Daboll hasn’t done much as an OC. I hope our offense has tons of success, and we can consider him an accomplished OC by the end of this season. I’m simply addressing what Daboll has done up to this point in his career, I’m not trying to harshly criticize him.

We have the roster, but this season goes as far as Josh Allen takes us. I don’t like to oversimplify things, but it is that simple. That leaves me believing anything between 9-13 wins is possible. We truly get to find out who our QB is this season.

Exactly, you also need a guy who consistently kicks touchbacks in today’s NFL. If I remember correctly, Hauschka struggled with extra points at times also.

No reasonable person is going to say Reich had Hall of Fame talent, but I don’t understand people implying he was a bad QB. He played well for us in the prime of his career. Reich did everything you could ask from a backup QB. He played smart football, utilized the talent around him, and didn’t make mistakes. That 14/2 TD to interception ratio in games that mattered says it all. He’s not Fitz, or some middling QB who throws games away. Reich always gave his team a chance to win. That’s all you want from a backup, and that makes him a good QB.

Thurman won a lot of games for that team. I realize he’s in the HOF, but he’s almost undervalued by fans in some aspects. Kelly was spectacular, but he had tons of average games where Thurman carried the team. Kelly is a legend, but that legend is lessened if he didn’t have Thurman.

I’m not big on the 2014 season like many others. I mostly remember it for being the season that ended EJ Manuel’s career, and a team that played terribly against Oakland and Denver, with a QB (Orton) who looked mentally ready for retirement the last few weeks. I’m strangely grateful for the Ryan years that followed. I think we needed a complete restructuring of the organization for a coach to succeed, and that didn’t happen until McDermott and Beane came in. I wasn’t a Whaley fan, Russ Brandon still was around, and the franchise was a total mess. Whaley was terrible in the draft, and the FO was a bit unstructured. This wasn’t a place where a young upcoming coach was going to succeed in 2015 imo. We wasted those years on a guy who isn’t going to succeed elsewhere with Ryan. McDermott and Beane were able to bring structure and focus into this franchise, and now have the power they need to succeed.

Yeah, but if concessions are closed, you’d have to at least be able to bring in water. The game is three hours long. I was just making the point that with people eating/drinking it would be hard to dictate when a mask should be on or off. That’s why you don’t need a mask when seated at a restaurant. Just seat people from separate parties more than six feet apart, and no mask needed while seated. I realize that won’t happen, but it just seems more feasible imo.

Just my take, not a comment on Covid itself at all. I couldn’t care less if I can go to game this season. After spending 40 hours a week wearing a mask, I’d rather sit in front of the tv watching the Bills in comfort. I don’t get how you make the mask thing really work though. Are they going to ban food and drinks ? How would they determine when you are or aren’t eating ? Who enforces all of this ? I don’t see who would be stopping fans from loading up on a bunch to eat during the game, so they could keep the mask off. I’d be like the restaurant rule. They’d almost need to just sit people six feet apart, and only require masks in the concourse imo.

Yeah, that’s the problem. I don’t care how elite you might be as a return man these days. It’s unlikely you’ll bring the ball past the 25 from deep in the end zone on a regular basis. Back when a touchback was placed at the 20, there was less risk in losing yardage from taking it out. I value having the ball at the 25 on a regular basis more than I do the small chance it’s taken out to midfield. Big returns can be huge, but the consistency of starting at the 25 outweighs one long return mixed with a bunch where you actually lose field position. Don’t get me wrong, Roberts is a good player to have, but I’d prefer he take his chances from outside the end zone, or at least just a few yards deep. I don’t want to see anyone taking the ball out from deep in the end zone.

I don’t trust him to be the guy who can develop talent on offense, and utilize the talent we already have properly. His scheme is overly complicated to the point of being a hindrance, and he constantly outsmarts himself. I also don’t trust him with talent like Diggs on the roster. Will he be smart enough to make an effort to get Diggs involved on a regular basis? Or will he try to outsmart everyone by not properly utilizing a guy like Diggs ? I don’t want a basic smash mouth offense, but Daboll’s offense is like an overpriced foreign sports car. It looks great, but it’s difficult to work with, and you’re lucky to get it out of the garage on a regular basis when things break down. Daboll has yet to build an identity for this offense, because he subscribes to the Patriot way of running a chameleon like offense. One week is run heavy, while the next is pass happy. That’s great when you have Brady under center, but a young guy like Allen needs more consistency and direction to be comfortable.

I just have a feeling Tua is going to be a bust. He has a funky throwing motion, injury prone, and benefited greatly from playing with Bama. He might turn out to be decent, but I don’t see him being much better than mediocre. He doesn’t scare me in the division, I’ll just say that.

Yeah, I never joined forums like this, or talked much football with fellow Bills fans during the drought because that opinion was very unpopular. Any criticism of the franchise being a train wreck was taken very personally by most fans. Somehow, good things were just around the corner (even though we didn’t have a pro roster), and any criticism of management was just being negative.

Whaley did well in free agency, but QB wasn’t the only thing he missed in the draft. Maybe I undervalue some of the players he drafted, but I thought every Whaley draft was very weak.

I’ve never understood that crowd either, and I don’t even wear a jersey on game day. I just don’t understand why anyone cares what another dude chooses to wear.

Chan Gailey wasn’t an offensive genius. We often blame those years on Gailey’s inability to manage both sides of the ball, but the reality is different. His offense was a gimmick that only worked a few weeks every season, then we’d have long streaks of struggling to score points. People mostly remember the exciting Gailey games, but forget the dreadful 24-10 type loses those seasons were also filled with.

Yeah, and if Hauschka is coming up short from 50+ in OP during August, that’s not a good sign for what he can do when fall/winter weather gets here. Starting NFL kickers have the leg strength to make 52 yarders. You have to move on from a guy who doesn’t.