SirAndrew

This^ I don’t think it’s fair to say Mac Jones won’t amount to anything, but doesn’t it seem like he’s been treated if he were a first round pick ?

No surprise imo, but it’s funny how many media folks anointed Mac Jones as a great selection. Jones is just another mid round QB, but he’s getting all these props because BB is supposed to make him the next Brady.

There was a point in Hughes’ career where he got lots of bogus penalties based on reputation. I’m also certain that playing for Rex Ryan didn’t help. Ryan teams were not only undisciplined, they also get placed under the microscope from refs due to Ryan’s reputation.

Years worth of nice paychecks from OBD for being nothing more than a pro con man.

The number of practices open to the public at SJF was reduced each year during the McBeane years, well before COVID. You can point to many factors, but the writing had been on the wall for a while imo. I realize neither Beane or McD would acknowledge it publicly, but you can’t always take those type of comments at face value.

Agree, I actually think people overrate KC receivers. They have Hill, along with some guys who Mahomes has made look good. I prefer our wideouts. Kelce is the wildcard because the insane mismatch he provides. Any QB would be helped immensely by having Kelce.

The Russell Wilson miss from Nix is incredible. How was a franchise with no QB not willing to risk a third round pick on a QB ? Disregard the concerns regarding Wilson’s statue, a third round pick isn’t much to waste when you have a need at QB. I suppose Russell Wilson is probably very blessed he didn’t go to Buffalo in 2012. Who knows where his career would be had he begun with such a dysfunctional franchise.

Agree, it’s a team issue. If our D neutralized Mahomes the way Tampa did, I fully believe we would have been in the Super Bowl. The KC loss was a team failure. Instead the narrative became Brady beating Mahomes, when in reality the Bucs team beat KC. I agree with this, I also think it doesn’t help calm Allen when the team around him is falling apart. It’s like we completely lose all our fundamentals when playing KC. The receivers drop passes, guys are missing blocks, and Allen comes unglued. Hopefully Allen and the team can overcome that, although even a guy like Brady looked rattled in a couple Super Bowls imo. That’s what happens when the team falls apart in unison.

At least fans have found a new Lee Smith.

I like your humor. As a lifelong resident of the Rochester area with family from Buffalo, I’ve often made fun of the area. However, it’s a decent place to live. I’m not sure if I see much decent about Syracuse. It looks like the Scranton of NY, but to each their own. Apart from SU basketball and St.Patty’s Day, I wouldn’t say Syracuse does much well. The metro Rochester area is much more desirable imo.

I know the OP mentioned it’s not just Trubisky alone in this trade scenario, but why would the Saints want Trubisky? If Hill and Winston fail to make the Saints winners, it’s hard to believe Trubisky will. I think Trubisky was a great signing. We needed an upgrade over Barkley, but I don’t think Trubisky is any better than Winston or Hill.

Her stream name is probably a reference to the first divorce 😂

Agree. Tebow is almost as big as God in North Florida. The Jags have already won from a marketing prospective for sure. That’s why I’ve said time and time again on this topic, I’ve got nothing against Tebow, but there are plenty of non football reasons the Jags have Tebow on the roster. The jersey sales prove that.

I’m actually happy for Tebow, I’m not trying to bring anyone down. It’s just clear that Meyer is doing Tebow a favor by giving him a chance. Tebow bust out of the league as a QB, and is now 33 years old. How many guys have returned at a new position after failing as an NFL QB. A 33 year old former QB learning to play TE doesn’t seem very practical. I also have no issue with his attempt at minor league baseball. I just think it’s disingenuous to say he was a AAA level player. The Mets needed publicity, and Urban Meyer thinks he’s an asset. There’s nothing inherently wrong with those things, but I also think it’s fair to point them out.

Don’t forget Gregg Williams and Mike Mularkey. They’re in the meathead crowd without question.

Agree, meathead coaches are no longer successful in the NFL. The Bills drought era coaches prove that point clearly.

I always assumed it was just one of those places that warehouses parolees.

There’s a lot of posters who really don’t like Flutie as a person. I’m shocked how many people have such a strong opinion. I’m not sure if all those people knew him on a personal level, or it’s just assumptions. I’ve seen a lot of bad takes because of it, with people acting like the Flutie vs Johnson battle was a close race. Most reasonable people understand that Flutie wasn’t an elite QB, but they should also know that Johnson was total garbage. It’s just a bad football take to claim Johnson was close to Flutie as a QB.

I’m thinking it’s the same reason as MTV. The internet made their original purpose obsolete. ESPN moved to the predominant television news style format, just as MTV moved to the reality show format.

He really has a Pee Wee Herman vibe in that picture too.

True, but he didn’t earn a spot in AAA. The Mets used him to generate interest. I really don’t care, it’s just clear that Tebow gets opportunities few other athletes are granted. I’m not upset by Tebow living his life, but I also don’t understand why some are offended by others pointing out the fact Tebow hasn’t really earned any of this. I’m willing to listen when Tebow becomes a productive tight end. I’m also willing to admit I’m wrong at that point.

I fully agree, this isn’t about Tebow the person, it’s about being the type of move a bad franchise makes. Tebow as a TE provides nothing from a football prospective. It’s a move that could lose a team. There’s no worse culture in any workplace than one that demonstrates no need to earn your position. I wouldn’t aspire to running my franchise/team like the NY Mets, who were the only baseball team that would have made Tebow AAA player. I just struggle understanding what football related positive comes from this.

My issue is the fact that Tebow has done nothing to earn all of these opportunities. He’s a 33 year old QB bust who was given the chance to play AAA baseball, and now play TE in the NFL. The dude hadn’t played baseball since high school, and didn’t even earn the right to go up to AAA. He’s never shown that he’s a good pro athlete, and is the only dude in the world who’d be given this chance.

I agree. Winning is the best way to expand a fan base. SJF is a great training camp site, but the team no longer has a real need for Russ Brandon’s carnival in Rochester.

I think training is really cool for kids. I remember going twice as a kid, and it was thrilling to see players up close. The opportunity to get autographs was also a big draw. I no longer care about attending training camp. It doesn’t do much for me as an adult. I’d rather use my time and money to attend a game. Nothing against those who enjoy training camp, but I wouldn’t miss it. NFL players/teams aren’t exactly the hardest practicing bunch, and not much that holds any intrigue happens in front of fans.