Typical TBD Guy

Your concern is justified, but we can always get a solid backup in free agency - specifically the June 1st cuts. I'd much rather focus on the lines and safety in day 1 of the draft. Hopefully Marv will listen to me

Huff at #8 and Joseph at #40 would be a great start to the draft. Add in a DE, DT, and SS with the next 3 picks, and you'll have one happy Kelso!

I thought Roscoe Parrish was our mascot.

The Bills are already a regionalized team that controls the Rochester NFL market. Changing the name to "WNY Bills" will not singlehandedly increase sales. The team's economic feasibility issues run much deeper than that. Now a new stadium closer to Rochester has some merit, but I doubt that will get done in at least the next 20 years. Here's a more reasonable suggestion: Play 1 preseason game in Syracuse (Carrier Dome). Play 1 preseason game in Toronto (wherever the Argonads play) As well as: Continue preseason training camp in Rochester. Continue playing only Sunday afternoon home games (so fans farther away can make the trip). Doing the above could help draw and keep fans from Buffalo's satellite markets. There is very little NFL competition for the Ontario region - it's all ours for the taking! Syracuse is a bit tougher, but maybe a lot of the marginal New Jersey Jets and Giants fans in central NY can still be converted!

What a sad sack of stojan you are. Do you have ANY pride for WNY? Or did you become a Bills fan because you thought the unis looked cool? Hope you're enjoying your Clippers season tickets, as well...

The 2006 draft class isn't overhyped. You chose to focus on the top 10, but the hype refers more to the depth of the class. Even so, the positives in most of those top 10 players you listed FAR outweigh their negatives. No drafted player has ever been perfect - they've all had weaknesses. When all is said and done, the top 10 in this draft will probably compare very well to the top 10 in previous years. Years from now, I think 6 of these will be perennial Pro Bowlers: Bush Ferguson Hawk Huff Davis Ngata I think Leinart and Super Mario are a bit overrated for top 5 standards, but nevertheless should have solid careers. Young and Justice could be huge busts, or they could be Hall of Famers under the right circumstances! The talent is certainly there; the personality may not be. 6 Pro Bowlers, 8 perennial starters, 2 busts....not bad for a top 10 class!

Jim Jeffcoat?

If this guy's main focus is keeping the Bills in Buffalo - as opposed to winning PR points with his constituents - then he would allow all people to sign the petition. "Douchebag" is right. In fact, this guy is just another link in a long chain of douchebags who form THE reason for why Buffalo is in its current economic mess and why the Bills are even discussing relocation in the first place. !@#$ the politicians. If you want to let the NFL how you feel, write to them directly.

Matt and Trey are spot on here! Though in defense of Family Guy, they're still much funnier than just about everything else on TV. Only South Park and Scrubs are on their sitcom level of comedy quality...IMO.

You may have a point with the RJ trade. Wasn't that a #9 overall pick we gave up? He definitely set this franchise back many years. We didn't waste as much time with Collins, and he was just a 2nd rounder. Brooks was bad too, but was only a 2nd round WR. Flowers sucked, but he was only a late first round pick, and you have to remember that about 33% of all 1st round picks bust anyway. Mike Williams certainly hurt this franchise a lot - especially when you think that maybe TD delayed getting more OL help because he assumed Mike would pan out. But Walt Patulski - among other busts from the late 60's-early 80's - probably hurt the most. A #1 overall pick busting in the pre-free agency era was an even bigger deal than it is now. Of the draft picks mentioned so far, I'd rate them from worst to "least worst" as: 1. Patulski 2. RJ 3. MW 4. Collins 5. Flowers 6. Bucky Brooks

An interesting theory, Kelly. But how do you explain the new CBA agreement? Just a simple mistake? If Snyder really did want to keep the Bills in Buffalo as you say, then we'd be hearing his outspokenness on its various anti-small market clauses. But all we're hearing from Snyder and the other big market owners are crickets chirping... That's because these guys were the chief architects of the CBA contract, and it WAS written with a purpose - to drive out the small market teams that annually eat into the revenue which mostly the big markets generate. Also, keep in mind that wanting to win and wanting to maximize profit are not 2 mutually exclusive desires; both can fuel Snyder's ego at the same time.

Not too familiar with Buffalo Bills history, I see...

That was never the big question with him...it's his "character" that's preventing him from being a blue chip, automatic top 10 pick. Getting suspended a year for holding up someone with a fake gun, and then soliciting a prostitute...those may raise red flags for Marv . I'm definitely more than willing to give Justice a second chance (everyone deserves one, especially if you were in your early 20's when you blew your first chance), but is Marv? If he doesn't at least meet with Justice personally between now and the draft, I can't see the Bills taking a chance on him at #8. By police record and game film alone, you can't tell if he's really a good person who's genuinely sorry for his mistakes, or if he's Marcus Vick.

You are beyond delusional. I, too, won't be commenting any more in Joe's hijacked thread because the topic of TD's "genius" has become a bloodied, decaying mess of a horse corpse. I have no doubt you are an intelligent person, so I wonder if you're saying such nonsense just to get a rise out of us TD haters? I'll end by saying that I gave TD 4 full seasons and an additional half off-season before I turned on him. I can only hope you're willing to give Marv at least 1.

The vast majority of us here are Bills fans because they are associated with the city of Buffalo. Take them out of WNY, and they're no longer our team. We don't care about the cool name, the particular players on the team, the neat helmet logo, the pretty uniform colors, all that other frivolous BS... the BUFFALO Bills represent our homeland, or at least our former homeland of which we are still very proud. A homeland that is intensely loyal, proud, hard-working, family-oriented, and yes also a bit depressed and insecure. The LOS ANGELES Bills would not represent all this - they'd represent gangbangers, illegal immigrants, racist cops, narcissistic artist wanna-be's, and materialistic elitist a-holes. Of course, that's just my opinion. Root for whomever you want if the Bills leave. Me? I'll turn my time and money 100% on over to college football. Fug the NFL and their big market owners. If they want to mirror MLB's "success," let 'em have it.

If you want serviceable as opposed to the disaster that was last year (and last decade for the OL), we just need: 1 starting LG 1 starting DT who could each probably be picked up in the first day of the upcoming draft. And this isn't accounting for depth, so if injuries occur say goodbye to "serviceable." If you want the Bills to be among the top 12 in OL and DL (i.e., playoff competitive), we need: 1 starting DE 1 starting DT 1 backup DT 1 backup G 2 backup T's 1 starting LT 1 starting LG 1 starting RG (or a healthy Villarial) (I'm assuming Fowler and Peters live up to Marv's expectations) So that's 9 new players. With good drafting and a little more effort put into the remaining free agents, we could fill up to 6 of these holes now and finish up the job next offseason. Here's one way this could happen: Draft starting DT Ngata/Bunkley in first round Draft starting LG Joseph in second round Draft DT in 3rd round or in day 2 Draft OT in 3rd round or in day 2 Draft G in late round or in next year's draft Draft OT in late round or in next year's draft Sign DE Lance Johnstone as starter for this season Leave Gandy and Villarial as starters for this season Use our favorable cap space next year to sign/draft a starting DE, LT, and RG for the future.

So that's 2 in favor of LaVarr. Anyone against?

This topic, again? "Given ONE more year?" Yeah right, Simon. FIVE years were more than enough time for this arrogant, substandard prick of a GM to field a team capable of making the playoffs. Instead, we are now firmly mired with the dregs of the league (Lions, Cards, Texans) all because this stupid fugging piece of stojan GM had to show off on draft day for the past THREE seasons instead of landing us some solid, boring linemen. Now Marv has to clean up your hero's mess...which may take a couple seasons...and you have the cajones to rag on Marv for settling on a high 5th which you call "camp fodder," as if the draft doesn't exist beyond the fourth round? "A serious run at Bentley..." give me a fugging break.

All we'd have left would be the PPP and Off The Wall forums .

LA Fencehoppers?

Cut this emotional sh-- out. All of us here care about the Bills like they're another family member. There's no need to further agitate an already depressed and angry fanbase. Please comment on the "no revenue sharing for new owners" clause that I alluded to in my post, and then maybe we could have a productive dialogue on keeping the Bills in Buffalo. These would be far more effective options for keeping the Bills in Buffalo: 1. Get transplanted fans to move back to WNY. 2. Get fans to start Fortune 500-caliber companies. 3. Get fans to reserve season luxury suites. 4. Get fans to stop voting for corrupt local politicans. Or at the very least, you could do what Ralph Wilson recomended we do and write carefully worded letters (read: no knee-jerk emotional ones...) to NY politicians and to the NFL commish about the importance of changing the current CBA to help out small market teams. FWIW, Mr. buffalobillsfootball, I was already planning on purchasing 4 tickets for the Titans home finale. All the other games I won't be in town to attend. But I'll gladly buy as many as you say I should buy if you could: 1. Make a convincing case that doing so will lead to a net effect of keeping the Bills in Buffalo. 2. Help me pay off my student loans.

!@#$ you.

We could finish 0-16 for the next 5 years, and sell out every one of those home games each year, and the NFL powers that be would still move the team after Wilson dies. Read up on the "no revenue sharing" clause for new owners. The handwriting was on the wall for our beloved Bills. Guys like The Cryptkeeper and Jewy McMoneybags had been planning this for years - weed out small market teams, increase net profits. Rather than continue to throw money at a league that is heading for the same toilet MLB is in, maybe we Buffalonians and Buffalonian transplants should choose to throw money at one that is - oddly enough - now the most entertaining pro sports league in North America - the NHL?

I like a lot of your picks. But Winston Justice at #8 bothers me. It's partly the character issues, partly the fact that he's a RT (memories of Mike Williams...).

Exactly. 10 TD's in the past 3 seasons...a steady career ypc decline that bottomed at 10.1 last year...I don't think our receiving corps is as doomed as people think. If we ever decide to fix our OL this offseason, we may not even notice his absence. In terms of the deep routes, we've actually gotten stronger (by replacing Moulds with the much faster Davis).