Ethan in Cleveland

I’ve posted many times Allen was my #1 but Rosen was my #2. If you look at 2018 stats both were very similar. Completion percentage 52, a little over 2000 yards and both with more interceptions than TDs. One stays put and gets better the other becomes a vagabond. Had Denver taken Allen I have no doubt Beane would have taken Rosen.

Just as Frazier did when speaking about Darryl Johnson who has little chance to make the final 53

No Kahalil Mack posts yet. 24 months ago he would have dominated this thread. Still a great player but agree Young, Bosa, and Watt are the most dynamic pass rushers now

Bobby Wagner Beane addressed the DL with a nice mix of youth and experience. And while the added pass rush of a Chase Young or TJ Watt would be great, the weak link on the defense is Edmunds even more so than CB#2. You can game plan to give extra help for a CB. You can't gameplan to fix a MLB that takes bad angles to the ball carrier and makes few plays in pass coverage. Wagner's experience and expert play would transform this defense. Maybe that will happen with Edmunds this year.

What does it say about the coach that drafted them and started them? Glass houses...

They don't need depth at DE. They have it now with the three draft picks the last two years and Obada. Johnson can't play DT like Basham probably will on some downs. The LB depth is much better this year and they can find a LB or WR to take his spot on special teams. Johnson is gone for sure. Frazier might be talking him up to see if Beane can trade him for a late round pick. Johnson has 2 sacks in two seasons. Obada had 5.5 last year alone.

NFL was just fine without fans last year.

There are other player positions besides QB in the league. Allen is probably a top 5 QB in the eyes of most players (Mahommes, Brady, Rodgers, Wilson being a possible top 4). Add Aaron Donald, Hopkins, Kelce, an edge rusher or a safety and it's quite likely he drops into the 11-20 range. Agree. He was not as dominant last year and had some injury issues. Or he just didn't want to play Tennessee COVID game. But still he is a top 5 CB and its hard to believe there are 94 better players in the NFL

My pick Fields looked decent in his first action.

Uh no there is not. There just isn't. There is zero value. Almost all those guys will be on the street in 3 weeks. The only value to the fourth round of a preseason game is the starters are not on the field to get hurt. That's it.

Agreed. I wanted Beane to give away some picks this year for a higher round pick next year. After the top 3 I can't see more than one other guy making the roster.

Fields has a better skill set than most recent Ohio State QBs and has 22 career starts. I'm just not sold on Lawrence and I have no idea why. I'm a stats guys and his numbers got better every year. Maybe it is the Clemson offense style that makes me worry he can be great in the NFL. He obviously has the size and arm strength. He has dead eyes and a blank stare most of the time. Wilson is looking like a bust and Mac Jones doesn't have the arm to play in the NFL

Agreed. For the record I think Jackson is a far better passer than most of this board does. I liked Allen better pre-draft. I had Rosen second and Jackson/Mayfield in a toss up after that with Darnold last in that class. And I'd still take Jackson over Darnold and Mayfield now.

I'm seriously not taking anything away from Tasker who was great. In 2020 he most likely would be used like Edelman and Welker was used and catch 80 balls a year from the slot. With that said the two most important special teams plays of the SB era team were made by Fred Smerlas blocking the kick against the Jets to help win the AFC East for the first time since 1980 and the miss by Norwood.

It's a reasonable argument for his agent to make, but I agree the MVP vote should not impact the final dollars. It depends on the player. Look what happened in Seattle. They were a great young team and they lost Sherman and Earl Thomas over money despite being in a great situation to win and compete for SuperBowls. Same story in Green Bay where Adams is threatening to walk despite a HOF QB and a well run franchise.

Hester is 11th all-time in kick return yards with half the total that Brian Mitchell has. His 5 KR TD would place him 5th all time in that category. He is 5th all time in Punt return yards but has an astonishing 14 punt returns for TD. That is four more then Eric Metcalf who has 10 and is the only other player with double digit punt return TD total. All that said, he was a dynamic player but only leads his peers in one career total category. Therefore along with Tasker he belongs in the Hall of the Very Good but just not HOF worthy.

He was the best pass rusher on the team with little camp and no preseason last year. The less he does now the better they are in the long run. I'd be stunned if he dresses for any of the preseason games. More reps for the kids. I'm liking the DL more with each report but will hold my breath until we see them on the field. A capable H. Phillips and at least one emerging star from the group of DE's would let Frazier just rush four more often and let Edmunds, Milano, and Poyer drop in coverage more.

I’m not sure any deserve first ballot but Ware is 9th overall in career sacks. I suspect he will make it on the first try. There are not many guys that have been passed over that deserve HOF so it’s a good year for Ware to get in on the first chance.

There is always a surprise cut or two Feliciano is my guess on offense H. Phillips is my guess on defense Ford played RT his rookie year, Bates can play OT, and Boettger is far from a lock. I like Bates as the back up center and that frees them up to go with Boettger at RG and let Feliciano go.

Never made it to a game in San Diego. May go to baseball game at some point

Agree. When I watch the games he is at best the fourth worst player on defense after CB#2, NT, and DE#2. Even nickel CB made more impactful plays than Edmunds. He plays becuase he was a first round pick, he is still learning, and they have no one else to play MLB. If he balls out this year then the Bills will be set with the cornerstone of their defense for another 5 to 8 years. And they should pay him like Wagner gets paid. I just have not seen him play to that level. As for replacing him, next year's draft might be a year too early. They will need a center, a NT, and a safety will be my guess.

I was at the LA game too. Flew down for my birthday. I left at halftime and threw my hat in the garbage walking out. Dumbest coaching decision McD has ever made.

Agree with everything you state from a contract and dollar standpoint. I agree McD likely thinks more of Edmunds than I do. I just don't see a top 5 MLB on tape. I'd take my chances and make him prove me wrong. In two years time Hughes, Morse, Beasley, Hyde and Star will be off the team. That frees up cash leaving only Diggs, Oliver, and hopefully Ford to pay. Obviously a few free agents and good drafts to backfill those players will be needed too.

I wouldn't extend anyone else. Make Edmunds earn it just like he made Milano earn it. He has played well enough to pick up his option but not consistently well enough to warrant an extension. Plus you have the franchise tag.

NFL 1. Chargers are in AFC West race until the last week, but ultimately end up a WC team 2. Vic Fangio is the first HC fired 3. Seattle misses the playoffs for first time with Wilson, Carroll retires 4. Dallas wins 12 regular season games and represents NFC in the SB 5. Raiders win 5 games and Mayock is fired Bills 1. Bills lose consecutive weeks against Chiefs and Tenn and this board explodes 2. Bills win 12 regular season games and beat Cleveland in Cleveland for AFC Championship 3. Edmunds is benched as MLB after Tenn loss 4. Morse is also benched after the Tenn loss 5. Hyde starts to show his age 6. Moss becomes the feature back and rushes for 850 yards 7. Bills have 52 sacks 8. JA, Bass, Diggs, White, and Dawkins earn ProBowl 9. Rousseau finishes 3rd in DROY voting with 7.5 sacks 10. Bills 31 Cowboys 27 in SB