Ethan in Cleveland

I guess better than quitting at half time ..lol

I think Moore and Samuel are interchangeable with complimentary negatives. Samuel can't stay healthy and Moore can't be consistent. Give it a few games and see what shakes out. My hunch is Moore makes a few plays and McD grows tired of Samuel and they injury settlement him by mid-October. I like Moore as a better all around WR in case Shakir misses any time. But that is just a hunch. I know Shavers is the feel good story of camp. I would love to see a few deep shots called up for him when the defense is keying on Kincaid, Coleman, and Palmer. Give him a chance to produce. If not send him back to the PS and let Davis have a few chances.

Very cool! Nice job NFL!

On defense: For me it is Bosa. If he plays at a reasonably high level it should elevate the entire DL play. Rousseau should massively benefit from a credible rush threat opposite him, as will Bosa. Also, really looking forward to see a healthy dynamic duo of Milano and Bernard. While neither are the big bodied LB's I prefer, you can not disregard the playmakng abilities of both. Their instincts are off the charts. On offense, I'm going to cautiously say Coleman. I am expecting Kincaid to be much better. I said this earlier, but Coleman should try to be Anquan Boldin 2.0. Coleman is a little taller and not quite a s big. But they could have very similar games. If Coleman becomes a reliable target and chain mover with the occasional big play, it will open up everything deep and horizontal.

Browns over Bengals Bengals start slow. Browns play Burrow tough. It is in Cleveland. If Flacco is going to have a good game it will probably be early in the year. They might lose the next 16 but they have a chance against the Bengals.

Why throw out his best game? Shakir has played in 7 TOTAL games and has 4.7 catches per game, 48 yards per game, and 2 TD. In the same number of games, Davis had 11 fewer catches than Shakir, but he had 134 more yards and 4 more TDs Gabe had more TD in one game than Shakir's entire playoff career. If you are going to try and discredit a player at least put all the stats to see In case people are wondering, Jerry Hughes is unsigned

Second favorite player on the team! Hope cool heads prevail and he takes a slight pay cut with 100% guaranteed money so he can stay on the team the next few years.

If the Bills played more Big Nickel looks he would be perfect addition to the group of safeties they have now.

Before camp I was thinking 14 - 3, but the injuries have swapped some of my enthusiasm. Probably an overly emotional reaction but the injuries have made the defensive backfield a disaster in the making, and with questions at WR and PK its hard to stay so optimistic. I am going to say losses to Baltimore, Philadelphia, and KC all at home and then a weird loss at Atlanta. Lots of worry going into week 17 after a third home loss to the Eagles. But Allen puts on a show and they crush the Jets clinching home field. Division playoff game is a rematch with the Bengals and the AFC Championship is a McDermott career defining game against the Chargers. Win and he's coach for the foreseeable future. Lose at home to Harbaugh and they decide to part ways with McDermott. In short, 13-4 with 3 home losses which sucks for the fans but still gets them home field.

Get back to us in January

Better than the all red

My bad. I meant late in the first round picks which is what he is holding onto

Fair points.i would argue middle of the road gets you to the playoffs. Elite wins championships. Chiefs have had multiple elite pieces on offense and defense. We were close with Allen, Diggs, Miller, White, and Milano before the injuries.

Lol.. isn't it ironic to see this thread just above the Jordan Poyer thread. One team getting a generational pass rusher and another gifting $400K to a washed up safety.

Hopkins has not had great success. He's been up and down ever since he left Buffalo including last year. He just got beat out by a rookie. But he is an experienced veteran and Im surprised he is not being looked at

We can't stop the run now. We play with the lead a lot. Two number 1s for the second best pass rusher in the league. I make that deal in a heart beat. Two generational players in Allen and Parsons - one on offense and one on defense. Beane refuses to go all in, instead hoarding late round draft picks so he can waste them next year F!!!!!! On the other side, bad trade for Dallas.

I'm not a McDermott fan but you can see the theme for coach of the year. They are mostly reclamation project teams or teams that have not been even to a Championship game that are expected to compete.

Veteran salary for PS is $17,500 to $22,000 per week. So his salary is somewhere between $315-396K assuming 18 weeks.

Optimism: Allen will continue to evolve by distributing the ball and begin running less and less Cook, OL, and other backs will provide a consistent rushing attack Healthy Kincaid catches 80 balls Knox one of my favorites on the team makes 25 catches for 4 TDs and scores a TD in the SuperBowl Pessimism: Nah I'm not going there now. Bring on the Ravens!

I would have preferred adding a Kicker to the PS. If Bass' groin flares up then they could elevate someone for game day. With the ability to elevate players for game day the PS has a little more value than it did in the past.

I mean even the most staunch Beane and McDermott defenders on this board, can't support this right?

This! 90% of this board guessed the top 48-50 guys. 18 game schedule, 2 bye weeks, no preseason games!

Speed. You can't coach speed. He had 385 yards, 4 TDs and 22 YPC last year in only 8 games with Saints. Prorate that over 17 games and as compared to Bills WR group, only Shakir would have had more receptions and yards. Hollins had 5 TD last year in 17 games and Coleman had the highest YPC at 19.

Good point. SVPG as the heir apparent to McGovern may be wishful thinking. It would be a good cap saving move if he could take over that role next year though. Anderson is an interesting case. It will be interesting to see how many 3 TE sets have him or Hawes on the field. If they start using Hawes more and more Anderson could be odd man out. Probably not this year but perhaps next. His best chance of sticking on the roster may be as the back-up C.

I think you are spot on. Hopefully Carter shows something and they can cut Ogunjobi. Problem is he will probably be a healthy scratch. Hell they might even elevate Phillips from the PS on game day and sit Carter. Solomon or Epenesa goes when Hoecht comes off suspension. Assuming Bosa stays healthy. Lundt or VanDemark go when Grable can play. Who dresses on game day may give some clue who is low man on the roster. Sorry to be an alarmist but CB is still a disaster.