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That 98 yard kick was sick. I watched a video of it. 65 or so yards and then bounces forward. Returner picked it up at the one and was tackled at the 2 or 3. That's 96 or 97 net yards.

As for the watered down issue, I tend to agree but it is not a new phenomenon. Lynn Swann and John Stallworth were both good players on an amazing dynasty. Neither should in the HOF. I can name several more but I will highlight Levy and Kurt Warner. Great stories but not HOF worthy. Eli will make the HOF as a 2 time SB winner with a ton of yards. But he only made 4 ProBowls in 16 years. Was he even a top 5 QB when he played? I'd argue in no particular order Brady, Peyton, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, early Wilson and late Favre are all better QBs. Obviously Eli's career doesn't overlap perfectly with all these QBs but I'd take every one except Ryan over Eli.

So were the careers of Gale Sayers and Terrell Davis. Longevity is part of it and it can be the most significant part of the argument for guys like Reed and Monk. But greatness can be recognized too.

Hopefully he turns it around. Sweeney has zero talent. If Howard can just be average they can do so much out of a two TE set.

I agree. Klein was a capable backup. Matakevich is not. Matakevich should be replaced with a cheap rookie or UDFA.

I'm as big of a skeptic about Edmunds as anyone. But I wouldn't question him because of injuries. He has played 61 of 65 games in his career. He played with a hurt shoulder. He lacks instincts but he doesn't lack durability.

Why not this year? Matakevich doesn't do much for this team. Save money now. $750,000 dead money and $2.5M cap savings. Use that for Poyer or Knox.

Makes sense. Looked like he played outside in college quite a bit.

As long as one is designated no officiating conspiracy posts!

Upstairs seems to make sense but yet every HC that calls plays - Reid McVeigh Shanahan all do it from the sidelines. Probably doesn't make much difference.

Absolutely no reason for Allen to take a single snap in preseason. He gains nothing. It is 100% risk and zero reward. I wouldn't play a single starter the entire preseason. Makes zero sense. What is Von Miller going to learn about pass rushing in the preseason? I say again, 2020 football was fine without preseason. 18 game schedule with 1 preseason game is all that is needed. They can play all the back-ups fighting for jobs in that one game. Almost every poster on this board can pick 45 to 50 of the 53 spots on the roster already. Beane and McD should know the 53 by now from practice. It is past due to end this relic of a bygone era.

Darby tore an ACL in Philadelphia. Eventually spent a year in Washington and played well enough to get a 3 yr deal with Denver for $30M. He has started 11,16,11 games the last three years. He has had a decent if unspectacular career. A bit disappointing for a second round pick but far from a bust. Far better than Ford and Epenesa to date.

Yeah they just missed it by a year. 2018 was the real tank job when they fielded a non-competitive team and tried to start Peterman at QB while Allen developed.

Well done Another example why no pre-season games need to be played. NFL football was just fine in 2020 with no preseason.

Agree about the current trajectory. That said I thought their last draft was good. If they clear some cap they may be competitive soon. I was never sold on Zach Wilson but I thought he played better as the season went on. INTs went down even if overall production was still not good.

Hate it when posters bash other franchises. Outside of Buffalo, the Bills are mostly known for OJ and and losing four SuperBowls. Hopefully Josh changes all that this year. In 63 seasons the Bills have 35 more wins than what you are calling a "historically stupid franchise". Less than half a win per season more. Both teams have overall losing records. Bills have 11 more playoff games played than the Jets. One franchise is 1-0 in the SB and one is 0-4 with two AFL Championships. Bills have 10 people in the HOF 7 of which are players - one being of course a murderer. Jets only have 4 - 3 players - one a famous fur coat wearing, Brady Bunch appearing, alcoholic that kisses sideline reporters.

Hmm let me think way back to 2018.... FA signings included Chirs Ivory, Vontae Davis, Trent Murphy, Star, Bodine, Newhouse, a rookie QB, no cap money, and finished 6-10....

Good call. I agree. I looked at the LT list and it's pretty barren after Williams. A few young names that may yet become stars.

1. Aaron Donald 2. Patrick Mahomes 3. Aaron Rodgers 4. Josh Allen 5. TJ Watt 6. Quenton Nelson 7. Davante Adams 8. Jalen Ramsey 9. Cooper Kupp 10. Justin Herbert No LT in the top 10. Who is the best LT in the league now? Gone are the days of Walter Jones, Joe Thomas, Jonathan Ogden, and Orlando Pace.

That could very well happen. In fact it almost needs to if they want to keep Oliver, Knox, and Edmunds. If Edmunds plays like a top 5 MLB this year, I would be in favor of that. Milano seems like a guy that is going to have a short career being undersized and an injury history. Of course there are many other ways to get cap space with restructures of Allen, White, and others.

I see it as the young three + 1 - Allen, Mahomes, Herbert and Rodgers. Those four are the best four in the game right now. Burrow, Jackson, Prescott, Russell Wilson and maybe Stafford are the next tier. Brady is in a category all to himself. On any given Sunday he can still be the GOAT but he is not consistently as good as he once was. Then you have enigmas like Watson and Murray, followed by a host of unproven talent in Tua, Hurts, Lance, Fields, Z. Wilson, and Lawrence. Probably forgetting to mention a few.

I promised myself no more Edmunds' comments until we see him play week 1. I'm sticking to that commitment. That said, I just don't think the team can afford Milano and a top 5 MLB contract. They have to pay Oliver and Knox soon followed by Davis. If they want a high priced MLB they will have to let Poyer leave and probably trade Milano at the end of the year.

If you go with your 6 WRs, who returns kicks? I cant see both Shakir and Hodgins making it, but who knows maybe Crowder is the surprise camp cut.

I am thinking of the Bills specific current situation. Bills have seemingly said McKenzie is not your return guy. In the top 5 or 6 there is not a good return candidate. Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Crowder(2 punt returns since 2018), Shakir (2 KR and 9 PR in senior year, none of either as a Junior), and Hodgins(No punt or kick returns in 4 years of college). None of these guys are going to be your primary return guy. Therefore you need at least a 6th WR (Austin or Stevenson) to handle return duties, unless there is a DB on the squad that can do it.

This could work. Only 2 QB and 5 LBs makes sense. That opens up two roster spots. I would still get rid of Kukerow if they are already keeping 7 WR and keep an extra linemen. The only way they keep 5 WR is if a DB is your primary return guy. They dont have anyone on the roster to do that. They are keeping at least 6 WR. Second, they have to make it to the PS first to be protected.