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Yeah Araiza lied to them. Their investigation probably consisted of talking to him and maybe trying to get some inside info from the police. They surely did not speak to the victim. If Beane did not tell McDermott then this is a much much bigger story. I highly doubt that is the case but holy hell that would be a bombshell. 100% agree. Just making the case they were far from perfect before this

Bulletproof? Peterman. PED Murphy. Domestic Dodson. Vontae Davis. And now this... They have been better than most but they have had some colossal blunders too. Worst QB in league history. Guy quit at half-time. Signed a PED cheat.

Yeah he lied to them. Thats my guess

Pretty much showed why we all were exasperated when he was drafted.

I meant that the organization is not the police and can not really do a thorough investigation. Agree the statement was terrible.

Odd people calling out the media. They did their job. Every question was fair. It was the Bills that put out the BS statement. It's entirely fair to ask when and what they knew. And when he says they have work to do its fair to ask what work and how long will it take.

Just watched the post-game press conference. Seems pretty obvious to me McD did not have all the facts that came out in the lawsuit. That tells me two things. Araiza lied to the Bills and the organization did not get all the facts. I don't blame the organization. Its ludicrous to think they can investigate this on their own. Knowing what they know they should have cut him before the game. Even letting him fly home is wrong. McD's reaction when asked about female members of Bills mafia was painful to watch. I've been a vocal critic of McD frequently on this board, but he generally looked broken in that press conference. I will have a new found respect for him when they release Araiza tomorrow.

I've been a Lawson guy for a while now. He deserved to start over Murphy. Hopefully he gets a chance to play.

What is the word on Jordan Phillips this pre-season? I have not heard him mentioned much at all.

Would be a nice development. I would have brought back Hughes. Basham needs the live reps but playing Lawson playing a bunch today means he might not make the final 53. Probably depends if one of the DTs can play DE in a pinch.

Would be less than 25 pages if the Bills did the right thing and cut him weeks ago.

Yes. That's how it works. If they cut him today the news cycles ends by Monday. If not this drags on all year.

He's an punter. Cut him and move on. He's not a star player or even an important one. Treat him as such. Cut him and go find someone else. I don’t care if he is innocent or not. Let someone else take a chance on him. The Bills sole purpose is to win a Championship and who the punter is won't make a difference.

Agreed. Cut this guy now and get back to focusing on winning the SuperBowl. Who the punter is has zero impact on the season.

I've read all 63 pages and at least four news articles covering the topic. I'm sufficiently satisfied this guy is scum. At a minimum he took advantage of a drunk girl unable to consent, and at its worst he led her into a room to be repeatedly assaulted. I want no part of him on the team. I dont care or need to care about due process. That's his problem not the Bills'. Cutting him has nothing to do with legal innocence. He's a punter and one of multiple guys that can be replaced with a street free agent or trade. He is not worth one minute of negative press. If McDermott believes what he preaches then he should have cut him a month ago.

And what if Araiza led her into that bedroom to be assaulted as is stated in the lawsuit?

Agree with others 1. Extend Poyer 2. Sign Knox 3. Tag Oliver next year 4. If Edmunds plays well, cut Milano and sign Edmunds to a long term deal 5. If Edmunds doesn't play better and wants a top 5 deal, then let him walk and draft his replacement

I'm sure there may be. At this point it would be better to sign a veteran after week 1 so the salary is not guaranteed for the whole year. I believe it still works that way.

Levy is overrated and should not be in the HOF. That said, the defense simply wasn't good enough. The NFC was simply a better conference. No AFC team could compete with the size and speed of the best NFC teams. Bills were built to beat Marino and Elway. Nn retrospect they had no chance going up against the o-lines of the NFC East. Wade had a true NT in Pat Williams and was a genius running the 3-4.

Agree. They should have signed Haden weeks ago and put White on PUP.

Putting him on the PUP means he doesn't count against the 53. If they don't and he can't play it's one less healthy player for game day. I'd be shocked if he plays by week 8. Let him heal for another two months. He is needed in Dec, Jan, and Feb not Sept or Oct.

I guess turning a lemon into lemonade is amazing. But when you purchased the lemon at the expense of other players it is not so amazing. Its why I advocate trading down and getting more picks. We want to believe Beane is smarter than most, but it is still mostly a crap shoot. It's pretty damning to think they had Teller, traded him away, then drafted a bust to play RT, moved him to fail at G, and spent a fortune on a decent RT only to move him to G and then cut a year later. Ugly. Doesn't matter much. He got Allen and that is 80% of the job.

Gross I'm a ticket snob. I get club level seats and try to avoid interaction with most of humanity. Then retreat into the solitude of my workshop.

Cleveland at CWRU from 88-92, Columbus at Ohio State for medical school, residency and fellowship from 92-02. Thanks. I have no regrets moving to PNW. Raised my kids here. All the positives you mentioned are correct and I would add proximity to San Francisco/Napa, Hawaii, and Vegas. Wouldn't change anything.

It's the same rules for everyone. So no I don't worry about it, but I do think it is dumb. Let everyone dress. Even the backup OL, DL, or RB could get some real reps in a blowout game. Those real reps may be enough to get a guy recognized.