Ethan in Cleveland

If Jets had taken Allen, I would have wanted Rosen over Darnold. Rosen was my #2. I wanted Allen at all costs. I posted Darnold was going to be a bust pre-draft but I though Rosen was going to be another Aaron Rodgers type. A bit odd personality but had good arm and similar body type. If Beane misses out on Allen he's out of a job by now

In reading this I didn't realize the Steelers lost the following week to the Dolphins. I had always thought that was one of their SuperBowl years. Franco's reputation was he was solid but not spectacular. He was not as big and strong as Jim Brown, not as fast as OJ or Tony Dorsett, and did not have anything to compare to Walter Payton. Some folks claimed he was soft and avoided contact. I only started watching football in 1980 so I only saw him when he was in decline. I beleive when he retired he was #2 all time rush leader behind Brown.

They played it perfectly is all that needs to be said.

Good post. Can't believe this is still being debated

He's been reckless with the ball all year. Probably 8 dropped INTs this year. This team would be lucky to have 4 wins without him. When he plays under control he is the MVP and best player in the league. Just wish Dorsey could dial up some easy early down completions more frequently.

He's nothing short of the franchise savior. Without him McD and Beane would be out of jobs. If Jets take Allen, Bills take Rosen or Darnold and neither Beane nor McD last long enough to find another QB.

He fumbled running last week. What bad snap against Minnesota? Allen fumble was a perfect snap. Allen just blew it. Not buying this Morse is out nonsense. Allen is a ProQB and these are professional linemen. There is no excuse for a bad snap and exchange, ever. Practice it every day with Morse and the backups. Pretty simple.

Those two were fine players but nowhere near the athlete Knox is.

Best Bills TE since the merger!

I dont think RG has much to do with ut. When he has been beaten badly it is with an outside speed rush

I thought a chronic whipping boy deserved his own thread. I just re-watched the entire game and I thought Brown played one of his best all around games. I count 3 negative plays. He looked quite good run blocking. I saw 3 times he was beaten in the pass rush. I'm not counting the Allen strip sack. It was his man that got the sack but Brown rode him 10 yards past the LOS and far out of the play. You can say he should have been with him longer but I think that sack is more on Allen. I saw three times where he was beaten fairly cleanly with outside speed rushes but none of them resulted in negative plays. In fact one was on the Knox TD catch. Early on he seemed to give a bit too much ground on bull rushes but ultimately held his ground after giving up a couple steps. Two highlights I will mention. First was the Allen fumble recovery. But perhaps his finest moment was 1:1 blocking on the Cook TD catch. He stayed with his guy and as Allen rolled past him to the right he didn't hold his opponent. He just kept his feet moving and stayed in front of him. So often as the QB rolls and the defender starts to chase, the O-line will grab and hold. Really solid play that as we all know took a full 8 seconds. Look forward to what the board thinks.

I'd take Watkins over John Brown or OBJ in a heart beat, but not Beasley. Beasley fills a greater need.

It really isn't. Boettger is not very good and the fact he is even on the roster is another indictment of how bad the O-line is.

Are we sure that was a screen play and not just every linemen getting beat? The linemen never seemed to disengage with the pass rusher even after getting beat.

This board has no standing to criticize another board about officiating complaints. For years there were numerous posters saying the entire NFL was rigged for Brady and the Pats.

Ok so what did that have to do with sliding in snow?

I picked Bills Chargers in AFC Championship. I think they will be the last seed so they would face each other in division round of playoffs instead of Championship game

I would argue far grater than 2%. Maybe only 5 or 10% chance but still way higher than Bass missing. Miami already had a TD on broken coverage once. Plus a FG miss at worst leaves OT. If Miami had scored a TD they could play for win with 2pt conversion. Absolutely right decision to play for and kick game winning FG.

Sanchez is stupid. He has no business calling games.

Wow I'm stunned the number of posters that didn't agree with McD decision making. It was the perfect coaching decision and I dont even like McDermott. Getting the first down was meaningless with the time left on the clock. If he tries to fall down at the 1 he risks getting pushed into the endzone. It was literally perfect execution end of game strategy.

I'm old. What does sliding into DMs mean?

He was terrible tonight. He should and will get paid though. They need to use the draft picks on the OL and WR.

What I dont understand is the seeming lack of short throw options. Is that Dorsey? Is that the fact the RBs need to stay in and block? Is that Josh not taking the underneath throw when it is there? Not sure but it would be nice to see more easy stuff underneath.

Josh

If they had converted it they would be up by 10.