Ethan in Cleveland

Get rid of the HC and win a Championship

Tag Edmunds and then trade straight up for Hopkins Then give a 3rd for Quenton Nelson OT in the first. DE or LB in the second 4th a safety 5th a C/G 6th and 7th trade away for 5 and 6 in 2024. Sign two UDFA LBs, two CBs, and one QB.

Hmm I'm all for getting rid of McDermott but I wouldn't replace him with Oliver Luck or Andrew Luck. Which other Luck HC were you thinking of?

What major bump? He played better for five games. Otherwise same lack of instincts and lack of impact plays. WC Game against a JV Miami offense and we were losing interest third quarter. He will never be a difference maker. If there was no cap of course you keep him. He's not awful. But there is a cap and he is not worth the investment. In October I was almost convinced to keep him. But watching another collapse by this fraud defense in the playoffs has solidified my resolve. Let Edmunds go and give McDermott one more year with all resources going to the offense. If they fail again, blow it all up.

His presence did nothing to get to the SuperBowl. Happy to see him go. Defense was non existent in the SuperBowl. All resources should go to the offense.

They won't move on from McDermott so we will just revisit this question next January. Hell if the Jets get Rodgers we may be talking about it in December.

Good bye. He's a fraud. Lacks the instincts to play the game at a high level. He had maybe four five solid games this season. Otherwise he was nothing special. Did he make a single play in the Bengals game? I will take the cap relief, the third round comp pick, and a cheap veteran to replace him.

I know he was playing injured and without Hyde, but Poyer was really bad in coverage down the stretch. Its time to blow up this fraud defense. Let Poyer and Edmunds walk. Probably nets you a 3rd and a 5th in comp picks. Get Allen an o-line and another WR. Though Beane probably screws the comp pick up like he did losing out on a 3rd for Gilmore. Agreed Edmunds should be the first one shown the door

Someone is moving to safety. Probably Benford this year. That gives another year to see if White can fully recover. If not then maybe he replaces Hyde in 2024. Hate how this staff dealt with Elam. He should have been a day 1 starter to learn on the job. If he's a bust then Beane has been just an absolute failure with multiple drafts.

Wow do you actually think Hodgins is better than Davis? 17.4 YPC compared to 10.5. One is on the verge of elite the other is pedestrian. Hodgins doesn't make the roster of half the NFL teams or more. Davis is in line for a big pay day as some team's legit #2. Yes Davis had drop issues but he made a bunch of difficult catches and amazing plays.

Actually to the credit of this board, I would say the majority felt Dorsey was one of the biggest if not biggest question mark going into the season. I thought Beane had done enough with the OL by bringing back Bates and signing Saffold. But Brown and Dawkins both regressed and after a few good games Saffold was terrible. Every backup except Q was gross. They will all be gone. Beane needs to draft at least 3 OL - an OT, a C/G, and another OT that can play G, in the first 5 rounds maybe even in the first 4. I am fine with their philosophy of being able to play multiple spots. Yes Davis had a lot of drops but his numbers improved over 2021 and his numbers for a #2 are good enough. The failings are not getting Knox enough targets, and finding a consistent move the chains type guy underneath. I would still draft a WR in the first two rounds next year. They will not be able to afford Davis and they need to start getting younger at WR.

Hodgins never flashed in any training camp. Where does this stuff come from? He is a bottom tier prospect that caught a few passes for a NY Giants team that has one of the worst WR groups in the NFL. He has no speed but decent size and decent hands. He would not make the roster of most NFL teams. He is a guy that will float from PS to PS with maybe some call-ups do to injuries. Beane and McD make their share of mistakes, Hodgins is not one of them.

Nope. His shine wore off. He had the benefit of doubt now we just have doubts. If he is smart he goes all in on offense. Three oline and 2 WR. Throw in one safety in the middle rounds.

That's because he knows McDermott is a fraud and he can't do anything about it. McDermott runs the draft too folks. The rot starts with McDermott. You really think Beane wanted Bernard in the third round??? That was all McDermott.

OP, what has really changed ??? They have been doing over the top half time shows for decades. The only thing that has changed is you are older and your tastes in entertainment probably didn't change. There is nothing wrong with that. There is always something someone will complain about. Domes, artifical turf, too much passing, too much protection for the QB, officiating. If you don't like it that is fine. Seriously no one forced you to watch the game. There are books and movies and hobbies you can enjoy if it bothers you that much. Oh yeah, the officiating is never perfect and it never has been. The game is so fast and for the most part they did a good job last night. Could that have been a no-call, sure. But as others have pointed out if that was a Bills WR and it wasn't called you would be screaming the fix was in. Enjoy, don't enjoy, who cares. The NFL continues to grow no matter who complains of some mythical better past. I'm not trying to pick on you but you started the thread. And for the record, I thought the half time show was the worst ever.

And in the Fouts Coryell era

With every replay it looks worse. Unbelievably bad call.

That is a terrible call. No way that should be a flag at any point in any game.

Really didn't think Eagles D would be this bad. That is game over

Just let them score and play for a TD and 2 pt conversion to win

Dear lord these O-lines are dominating decent d-lines. Please Beane do better. I know you have tried. But seriously let someone else pick the OL talent.

Why do they even need to paint the field??? They can just overlay a graphic all game long. For that matter they can change it during the game. The only people who wouldn't see it are the people in the stadium.

I hate the Fox crew. The only one I can stand is Howie

Worst half time show ever

Is this the worst lip syncing ever???