Ethan in Cleveland

Taron Johnson pick 6 against the Ravens is a top 5 all time play in franchise history.

Keep drafting small players and make them play a big mans game and this happens... Truly hope so. I liked Cooper and still agree with the trade at the time. Moore as has been said, has never played with a good QB. He could be a nice steal. If Coleman can get better and produce double what Hollins did he will be fine. If Coleman is playing well outside then Moore will take away some of Samuels slot routes. Wildcard in targets will be Kincaid. Can he be an 80 reception guy ???

Interesting topic. If you are talking about being out all season then without... Allen 4 Cook 11 Dawkins 11 Brown 12 Rousseau 13 Oliver 13 Shakir 10 - Bills offense was lost when he was injured. If he was out all year and with Samuel hurt the offense would have struggled more. Cooper 11 - the stats don't show it but he made a difference for the whole offense. He was crucial in Chiefs game. Benford - 11, If Elam was forced to start all year it would have cost them 2-3 games.

My point is Tre was under contract and was cut. The Bills didn't "honor his contract" as he had several more years on his deal. When the teams can get out of the contracts but the players can't its an unfair system. The player's only recourse is to try and renegotiate and get as much up front signing money as possible. Almost no one holds out anymore with the cash penalties. If he does not get a new deal, he will play under his current deal. And he will play if they tag him next year. Beane has had success getting guys to stay even when they hit free agency most notably Matt Milano.

Into the lineup for the Argonauts maybe. Hes a roster bubble guy that will be either the 53rd or 54th player. If they keep an extra DL or extra safety he won't make the final 53. They are screwed if Hairston can't start. If the rookie looks bad this week maybe they go after Alexander. Hes a far better option than Tre or Jackson.

Let's see, who just one the SuperBowl? Howie Roseman who just paid huge money for a RB. Oh and how many SuperBowls has Beane won to say he is all knowing??? Oh so did the the GMs for the Ravens and 49ers who have multiple SuperBowl appearances. But yiu are correct no GMs would pay a RB.

Second best player on the team and its not close. He's a superstar. Pay him.

This is the lamest of arguments. Again did the Bills honor Tre White's contract??? When the deals are fully guaranteed then you can say honor your contract. Until then it is all a negotiation.

Cam today would still be better than any backup they have had in the Allen era. Let's hope we never have to see how bad they are in a real game.

He's a second year low round pick. They invested heavily in higher round DL picks and free agents this year. He is probably a roster bubble player at this point and fighting for a roster spot. He probably makes the team because of the PED cheats and the fact McD carries 10 or more DL most of the time. I don't think he should carry that many this year as they have more question marks in the secondary than they do at DL. It would be nice to see him take the next step and move on from Epenesa. He's cheaper than Epenesa. If he can be a 4-6 sack guy even in mop up duty that would be far less expensive than some of the other guys they have had on the DL.

I've never rewatched any of the playoff losses. Ever. Obviously you see clips from time to time. But from losing to Fouts in 1980 with Ferguson on one leg, to a few months ago to Mahomes and Kincaid dropping the ball, I just can't watch any of those losses.

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Yeah those suffering Giants fans who got to watch the best defensive player in NFL history and see their team win 8 Championships including 4 SuperBowls. Must be rough to follow the G-men Jets have a SuperBowl win and a few AFC Championship appearances in this century. Nothing can compare to being a Browns fan. The drive, the fumble, losing your team, and now the worst trade in NFL history.

Did the Bills honor the contract Tre White signed?

Agree! Like the player but I would have spent that money on Cook. If anything McDermott has shown he can get decent play from most guys he puts out there at MLB. Even Specter and Klein were serviceable. Never liked Bernard's lack of size but he's made more plays in two years of starting than Edmunds has his entire career. Hope he stays healthy and gets decent DT play in front of him this year.

With all due respect, the franchise has been to four SuperBowls and lost all of them. This group hasn't even made it to a SuperBowl. If you don't understand the psyche of the Bills fan base then you are either too young or are willing to settle. This team with Allen has been great and it has been fun to watch. Nobody would trade this run for the drought. However almost everyone on this board knows the defense is a fraud. The defense has padded their stats against garbage QBs for years and fails every time in the playoffs. I truly hope this year is different or Allen starts to get listed with guys like Fouts who were HOF talents to never play in the SuperBowl. Its not just me. Multiple national media people have already stated McDermott has wasted Allen's best years. Beane has added lots of new players for the defense. Let's hope that these players make a difference in January not September.

Correct me if I’m wrong but the only guys that ever holdout anymore are fighting about offset language. And for some reason I think it only applied to third round picks. Maybe this is outdated but it is so very rare for any draft pick to hold out now.

Bishop was winning the starting job in TC last year and would have started week 1 if not for the scapula injury. No surprise he is the early leader to start.

That's an interesting take and good discussion topic. PFF for what it is worth had McGovern ranked 10th and Cook ranked 12th. Maybe neither guy is worth an extension, LOL! Torrence may still develop into a top guard too and he would be up for an extension after this year, though last year he looked only average. I still have hopes for Van Pran-Granger to take the center spot in the future. He was a multi year starter in the SEC at Georgia. Played against future NFL high draft picks almost every week. I'd pay Cook and trust Beane to figure out the Center spot.

No doubt there is potential there with a massive upgrade at QB. Palmer and Moore on paper are quality signings and better than Samuel and Hollins were last year.

It's ok to disagree. I think he's better at his position that Oliver, Rousseau, Knox, Benford, and every other player except Milano, White, and Allen were at the time they got their second contracts. He's an elite player that should get paid as such. I fully admit I am biased by running backs that can catch the ball out of the backfield. Thurman Thomas not Kelly was my favorite player of the 1990's teams. I loved watching players like Tomlinson, Faulk, and Edgerrin James. I value them more than WRs. I know the league, the market, and this board disagrees. For the record I fully support the extensions Benford, Rousseau, and Shakir got. All are very good players and all the deals were fair for both sides. Just hope Beane trims the money spent by getting rid of Epenesa, DQ, Samuel, and moving on or redoing the Milano and Knox contracts by next year. That should free up enough money to pay Cook either on the franchise tag or with an extension.

Really hope they pay Cook! Go back and watch the games. He's arguably the second best player on the entire team. He doesn't take big hits. His vision in the hole is as good as Thurman and Shady. His speed is excellent. He has enough power to get an extra yard or two after contact. His hands once thought of as a liability by some are elite. His route running is crisp and quick. He deserves a massive contract. Thanks to the system he doesn't have a ton of wear and tear.

I know Veteran's day and Memorial Day are meant to honor different servicemen. No matter if they perished in combat or made it home, they all come back harmed. Honor them all for the sacrifice they make so we may live free!

Interesting comparison. Both need to prove it in the playoffs though. Neither is as good as some people claim and neither is as bad as many state. Solid QBs you can win with.

I've been rewatching all the 2024 games. Elam was awful every chance he got. I defended him a lot on this board but he played his way off the roster.