Ethan in Cleveland

Huh? Manning first season was 1998. Wayne's was 2001. He wasn't a big part of their offense until his fourth season. They had Edgerrin James and Dallas Clark as legit weapons to go with Harrison. Add in Stokely who went over a 1000 yards one season, and its more than fair to say Manning/Colts had plenty of talent on offense.

Just curious. And while I agree they seem destined for fourth place, what did you predict their record would be during MacJones rookie year? Most on here thought they would be terrible and yet BB got that team to the playoffs.

Anyone know how it works with regard to the cap? Ie if White or Miller was suspended for the year, does his salary comes off the books and frees up enough money to sign Hopkins???

How many playmaker did Brady have besides Gronk? No one except one exceptional year with Moss. Brady turned a few midgets into stars. Not the other way around. Bills have Allen and Diggs and a handful of other guys that can make plays. They have plenty of talent to win it all. With Hyde, Poyer, Milano, Miller, Rousseau, if White can return to form they have playmaker on defense too. Add Bass as a weapon and they have more than enough. Coaching, injuries, and oline is what held us back not a lack of playmakers.

Ok but they really only need to upgrade Saffold on the IOL. Surely one of those guys will be better than Saffold. Can one of them beat out Bates too? Maybe and that would improve OL depth. There is a legit concern about RT. Will just have to see how he does this year. I'm of the belief Dawkins is on the downside but he has surprised me before. Would be good to see him play better than he did in 2022. Regardless they have to draft OT in round 1 or 2 next year

Elam should be a 17 game starter. He was the best defender on the field in the playoffs. White will start by reputation but he was not good last year. We all wanted White on the field but after watching him play they probably would have been better with Jackson and Elam on the field in the playoffs. I have a strong suspicion 2023 is the last year White is a Bill. After this year his dead cap falls quite a bit. Either that or he moves to safety. The wildcard is Benford. Is he a safety in waiting or is he an outside corner? He's a cheap option to start on a team that will be in cap hell for years to come. As for RB, I think it will be a committee. I don't see anyone getting close to 1000 yards. Not how I would coach it but it is how McD will. He likes his veteran backs for some reason. Cook could be a true bell cow but it won't play out like that. Harris should be excellent at times if he stays healthy. I dont expect much from Murray. Bills running backs accounted for only 1300 yards last year. I think it will be closer to 1500-1600 this year. They will run more and Josh will run less. My guess Cook gets 800, Lewis 500 and Murray picks up the scraps around 250.

Silly question. If it is 3rd and 8 and you score a TD on a 20 yard reception, do you get credit for a first down reception as well? How about 2nd and goal and you score on a reception?

He was tied for second in the league in INT last year with one less game. He had multiple dropped INTs. He is great but there are areas he can get better.

Dorsey needs to scheme up 4-5 easy high percentage completions per game. There are so few times per game the offense is schemed up to pick up an easy 5-8 yards. Either Josh is not taking the easy stuff or Dorsey is not designing it. Watch Brady and Rodgers. There are so many times a game they pick up a small chunks of yards to put them in 2nd or 3rd and short. If Dorsey does that, Allen will thrown 2-3 less picks over the course of the season. His comp % will go up, the ball will be spread around, and there will be less need for hero ball. There is an absolute time and a place when hero ball is needed. But that has to be the exception not the rule.

Actually is was only 27 points given up by the defense. The Pats scored on a pick 6.

Please correct me if I am remembering incorrectly. But I am fairly sure during that SuperBowl playoff run Manning overruled Dungy on a 4th down call when they were behind I believe to the Patriots at home. Manning kept the offense on the field and converted the first down when it appeared Dungy was going to punt it away. Thus the narrative that Manning won despite Dungy. But as others have said even during that SB run Manning had some really bad games with costly INTs.

Buffalo to London is no longer than Buffalo to LA. Now it's a 5 hour time difference as compared to 3 hours for the west coast. And it is harder to go West to East. But if the get there early in the week they should be able to acclimate.

Einstein its time to let it go. McD and Beane are here for at least two more years no matter what happens this year. McD is our coach and all we can do now is hope he gets it done o at least doesn't stop Allen from winning it all. You need to move on and assess decisions in the future during this upcoming season and next offseason. If the Bills fall short of the SuperBowl again in 2023 there will be plenty of time to debate why. Now is the time to get behind the players and coaches and cheer. We can assess in game decisions, play calls, and performance during the season.

Bills Cowboys Part III The Revenge Or Diggs Bowl

Vegas doesn't play the games. Haven't even made a Championship game in 2 years let alone the SB. Last year everyone said just get Home field. How did that work out?

This is one of the dumbest posts ever. Please know so I dont get banned im not calling the poster dumb. Im just saying this post is stupid. You have no idea how hard any of those coaches worked. You have no idea how hard McDermott works. So if McD is already working harder than those listed why has he had less success than some of them. Marty made multiple AFC Championship games. Fisher made a SuperBowl. Did Andy Reid work les hard in Philadelphia than he does now? Did Belichick work less hard in Cleveland? Ridiculous

Well like it or not we are stuck with McDermott for the next few seasons. As much as I criticize him, the Bills could do a lot worse. At this point we just have to sit back and hope Josh can deliver us a championship. Peyton won a SuperBowl despite Dungy. Allen will have to do the same.

Odd move. Usually this is done to protect them from leaving for a coordinator job somewhere else. I beleive the assistant HC title means Bills can block interviews for DC. He doesn't seem like a guy that would be on anyone's list for a DC job but who knows.

Cowherd fancies himself an intellectual but he's just a dumb sports radio guy like the rest. He is a poster child for a bandwagon fan. When the Patriots were at their peak all he spoke about was Brady and Belichick. Same with LeBron and Alabama. He covets big market listeners. The popular narrative now is the league has moved past Buffalo and the scapegoat so far is McDermott and not Allen. What people jump to is some media bias against Buffalo. Its not true. The media follows winners and good/bad drama. And now KC and Cinci are winning more than Buffalo. No big name free agents means no good drama. All the Bills have is a Diggs drama, the Madden curse, and a 6'5 slot WR to talk about now. When the Bills start winning big games on national TV early this season the Bills will be the talk of the NFL again.

Well that was kind of true. Miller had 1000 yards as a rookie. Then had to wait a year for Cribbs.

Who is Ed Jordan? Both could be true. He definitely played well the next week. But from what we now know about concussions maybe playing so quickly is what hurt him in the long run. That said he was never that good and it probably would have taken Bill Walsh and Jerry Rice in their prime to make him succeed.

Elam looked good down the stretch. He should have started all year. Obviously from Beane's PC, Elam wasn't doing something that followed the process, thus not dressing him one game. He was better than White down the stretch. Good point on Cook. I don't think he was used well at all. Daboll and Dorsey have been horrible at the screen game and getting the backs involved in the passing game much at all. Spending big money does not guarantee results. Bills are not the only team to spend big in free agency and not see the results. Bears will soon regret the big contract they just gave to Edmunds.

Always love these type of threads. I've posted some stuff taht others have. Not sure if I've posted this but at the time I thought Fred Jackson was not that good and should not be getting carries at the expense of Lynch. Wow was I wrong. Jackson had vision and heart and just enough talent to be a great Bill.

He was. Made All-Pro. He could have been a HOF talent. Then he apparently just stopped caring. Perhaps it was money. Perhaps drugs. Will be interesting in 5 or 10 years to see where he is in life.

So did I for my son. Went to goodwill quickly