Ethan in Cleveland

With the versatility of their OL I could see them trying to get away with carrying one less. I can't see less than 3 TEs. Honestly I'd carry one less LB. They so rarely play more than 2. My crusade to not have a FB on the team looks like it will never come to fruition.

If you keep Shavers which WR do you cut or are you keeping 6? If so what other position group loses a player? Josh will go down as the best QB in NFL history on intermediate to deep passes. His arm strength is off the charts. As you said he just doesn't have the ability to put air under the ball like Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson. That and occasionally making a terrible throw on a WR screen are his only flaws.

I stated at the time he was going to be better than Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence has been middling some very hood play and some terrible play/injuries but got massive contract extension. Fields had terrible HC and little skill people around him in Chicago. Now he is with the Jets. Some guys just dont get the best chances for success.

I thought they were switching him to NT or 1 tech DT to backup DQ or compete with DQ for starter. Not sure they want him penetrating. Will be interesting to see where he lines up. Of course if DQ has a bounce back year then it might not matter too much.

Perhaps they were talking about the players that didn't practice. Not new injuries.

For the record a reporter asked my same question to McDermott and he really never answered it. Its not that big a deal but it will be interesting how many reps the rookies and second year reps get over teh PED cheats knowing they need the young guys to play early in the season.

Cmon man. Of course it is. We all like Tre but I think we all want to see Hairston be a plug and play starter. Need to wash off the stick of Elam. White as CB#3 or #4 is not a bad thing.

Keon will be the Hollins role from last year. He's not good enough to be a 1 or a 2 but he can be a fantastic 4. Palmer and Moore are 1 and 2. And the radio guys were right when they said Beane didn't do enough at WR thus he added Moore.

Dear Lord if White can't even keep up with Coleman then they better start letting Max run with the starters

I think his name is James not Bill

White was with first team from day 1 when he was a rookie. But I get your point. Its a sign of respect to White. Plus they need to see if White can cover Bills #1 WRs or if he is still broken.

Curious what others think? Would you let the PED cheats practice based on their depth chart spot or do you play them last with the roster bottom feeders? You need to see what they can do in camp but you also need to see who is going to take their two roster spots for the first 6 weeks.

Shady put up over 1200 yards rushing age 28 and over 1100 age 29. The great running backs perform well into their late twenties. Age 30 is when they really fall off.

I was one of those that really liked him in the draft. Someone will pick him up. Chargers are a team that could use more of a pass catching threat at TE. Does KC bring him to back up Kelce? Browns TE is often injured.

Anyone know if he has to show up for a certain number of game for the season to count? Or can he sit entire season and become FA next year when his contract runs out this year.

Yeah weird game for their defense. They sacked Allen twice after Bills only gave up 14 all year. But Allen was 20/26 passing. Cook destroyed them on the ground as well.

Yup. Lots of ways to win in the NFL. Chargers win the AFC West this year and then we slug it out with them in OP for the AFC Championship...hint that is a preview of my season predictions

Seems like a bit of an overpay. His pass rush number per PFF seems better than I would have expected. Id say Groot still has more upside but also disappears for long stretches of games/seasons compared to a more consistent Karlaftis.

Are DVRs still a thing?

Cook is a star. Dont apologize because you know it and many on here don't. To be fair, many recognize the talent they just don't want to pay a RB top dollar. It's a fair argument, just dont say he is not worth top 3 RB money.

They already have two James Cook Spencer Brown I know it's been stated numerous times, but Elihah Moore could be the breakout star WR especially if one of the other top 4 misses any time. I would like to say Kincaid but I don’t think Brady will use him like other elite TEs. That's a shame. On defense, sorry but I don't see anyone being a star. If I had to pick anyone I'd say a healthy Milano may have the best chance to be a star again. If you want to take a flier, I will choose Bishop. He is supposed to be athletic and McD took average looking guys and turned them into superstars in the past. Benford not even getting a mention in top CBs anonymous poll makes me really worry we have overrated him.

I can agree with Sanders as best ever. I prefer more dual threat RBs like Thomas and Tomlinson but on pure rushing ability Sanders may indeed be the greatest. In terms of pure rushing I would say it is Sanders, Brown, OJ as my top 3. I would argue Simpson's 2003 yard 1973 season is the greatest rushing season and will never be close to being duplicated. His 143 yards/game is 10 yards higher than Jim Brown in second place and 15 yards per game better than Sanders best season.

What a timely thread. I was rewatching Bills KC with Kelly, Thurman, Bruce, Montana, and Allen. I almost started a thread on most underappreciated HOF players. Marcus Allen doesn't get nearly enough publicity or recognition amongst the greats of all time. My guess is because so many dual threat RBs came in quick succession with Faulk, James, and Tomlinson. But Marcus Allen and Thurman did it better than anyone in their era.

You know two of the five are gone right?

I dont understand the criticism the Jets are getting here. If the Bills had drafted the wrong Josh, would they have not given White and Oliver contract extensions? I thought the idea was to draft well and sign your own guys. Of course everyone wants to get a QB, but you dont let good to great players out of your franchise. I'd be fine arguing that neither of these guys are the best at their respectove positions and that the Jets overpaid. That's a fair and valid argument.