Ethan in Cleveland

And the Bills lost to each of those teams last season and barely beat the Dolphins in the playoffs with a 3rd string QB. The difference between the rosters is not much and Rodgers closes the gap. Now that of course does not mean the Bills can't get better. A better oline and a better WR group and the Bills will be an even better team next season.

What was the difference in the number of wins the Bills had between Allen's first and third year. QB play is almost all that matters in NFL. If the Jets get better QB play it could mean a 6 or 7 game improvement. Remember this team beat the Bills once last year already and it took a nearly dead Mike White to lose in Buffalo. Rodgers to Jets would be awful for Bills

Are you serious??? Rodgers lost his best player on offense last season Jets QBs were jokes. Jets roster is loaded except at QB. Rodgers makes them an instant AFC title contender and it doesn't even blow up their cap situation. Rodgers to Jets or hell even Miami would be a huge blow to Bills.

You tag Edmunds to trade him. If he just lets him walk for a comp pick that would be criminal. And Beane would probably screw that up too. I want to move on from Edmunds but letting him walk for nothing would be bad. There will be a market for him. Tagging him gives you options.

Great for him. He kept working at his job and when opportunity presented itself, he seized the day. Great story. Hope he continues to play well.

One year rental. Who cares long term

Sure it does. Oliver isn't that good and as you saw in the SuperBowl playing defense is pointless. They need multiple weapons on defense and it would not be a long term commitment. Makes perfect sense.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11821055/Americas-best-city-singles-revealed-residents-say-dont-effort.html It's the offseason and we are still two weeks from free agency. I'm tired of discussing McD, Edmunds, and the O-line. Thought this would be a nice distraction. I'm happily married for 20 years. I'm much more likely to be in a high end restaurant or the theatre than a bar. What say you single guys and ladies? Is Buffalo a happening spot for singles?

Not with video. He is guilty and a pig Not sure if you are joking. Both are crimes.

A good signing but I'm hoping with draft and free agency they can do better. If he was the last oline to make the team it would be fine. He's cheap. Knows the system.

Good signing. Hope he is a training camp cut. They should be able to find better but he is decent insurance policy.

If McD thinks this smurf can play MLB, it is hopeless.

They should move on. He's a journeymen in the making. Daboll can get the same production from any middle of the road QB.

14-4, sure. As I see it however they were 1-1 in the playoffs. Everyone said just get home field advantage and it will be a SuperBowl run. It wasn't. They were losing at home in the second half to a 3rd string Miami QB. McD and his staff were outcoached by not just Andy Reid but now by Dolphins and Bengals staffs. Injuries played a massive role last year. It's the only excuse McD has for yet another failure. But there were no long term injuries on the o-line. That unit was just bad. They have a few holes to fill but if they make wise choice to invest in oline and let Edmunds walk even this staff might not be enough to prevent Allen from winning it all. Pittsburgh and Detroit won 9 with journeymen. And of course San Francisco and Seattle made playoffs without franchise QBs.

What are you talking about? We can't win playoff games with Allen. McD has beaten a washed up Phillip Rivers, noodle arm Mac Jones, and almost lost to a 3rd string Miami QB. His defense has risen to the occasion once in the playoffs against Baltimore. After that epic collapses against Texans, Chiefs x 2, and now the Bengals. Without Allen this team would be lucky to win 6 games.

And Kelce is the best TE ever. So he has a #1 weapon just not a WR.

Two things can be true. I think Davis is a good player and may very well be better in 2023. They still need to add a WR. Diggs is not getting any younger. WR production falls off with age just not as precipitously as at RB. They need a new WR if for nothing than to hedge against being unable to pay Davis.

Don't you love how McD always says "and that starts with me", but it never ends with him???? I've been a McD skeptic for years. He is likely a wonderful person and has very admirable qualities. But like Coach Beard said in Ted Lasso winning matters. These players are professionals. Relationships and culture are fine if you win. If you don't win it doesn't matter. Nobody on the team liked Jim Kelly all the way to four SuperBowl appearances. You think anyone really likes Bill Belichick? If the Hamlin incident had not occurred and the Bills lost in the division round again I would have fired the entire coaching staff and started over. I would have given Beane a two year window with a new coach to make it to the SuperBowl. The Hamlin incident reset the clock for me. Now McDermott is SuperBowl or bust this year. I'm glad Leslie is gone and all eyes on the defense will be staring at McDermott. I truly hope he takes us to a championship. Like I said he seems like a nice human being. I would be happy for him. Do I think he will?. No. Am I willing to wait any longer. No. 2023 SuperBowl appearance or he should be fired. And no I don't care about 13 wins in the regular season. I care only about a ring. Most of us on here lived through the four SuperBowls and settling for losing in the playoffs is not good enough.

Frazier is not under contract. Why do you think he would come back to Buffalo a year from now? He won't be back. Bills don't want him and he can go wherever he wants. McD better call the plays. No more excuses.

McD just scapegoated another. Last year it was the special teams guy and this year it is Frazier. I want McD calling the defense in 2023. Posted that a while back. I want no excuses of who to blame when this fraud defense gets shredded in the playoffs again. Our only hope is Allen gets healthy, Beane takes over full control of the draft and rebuilds the oline and Dorsey gets better.

This is a great thread. Nice job OP. Started following in 1980. I have a few 1. The 1980 Dolphins goal posts coming down 2. Ferguson playing on a bum ankle against the Chargers 3. Bills clinch AFC in OT against the Jets - I've posted many times how I was there that day 4. Kelly QB draw on last play against the Dolphins If I have to narrow it down to one play, it is Kelly scoring at Miami on the last play. That play and all the good and bad ones to follow would define my reality for years to come.

You can remove the tag. It's not binding. It's not like a 5th year guarantee. I agree though playing under the 1 year tag with their cap situation is nearly impossible.

Davante Adams was traded last off-season after being tagged. So it happens.

Both are true. He probably does influence some throws but high end QBs and play callers do just fine against this defense. No doubt there are times when the D has played well but in the playoffs they collapse. I wish we knew who really has final say Beane or McDermott.

I think this is accurate way to describe how Beane has worked in the past. Worked with Milano and Williams I think.