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You are asking people to project and compare him to all time greats when he has only played 2 years. Tough ask. Agree the fumbles and drops need to get better. FYI Christian McCaffrey fumbled 4 times last year too.

You forgot Cribbs. He was special. Right now Cook probably is just ahead of Greg Bell and Spiller(one year wonder). By the end of this year he should surpass McGahee and Henry if they continue to feed him the ball in run and pass game. He has a long long way to go to get in the top 5 ( Thomas, Simpson, McCoy, Gilchrist, and Cribbs). Let's just hope he is not a one year wonder like Spiller and Terry Miller.

We know all about McDermott. 13 seconds and Hamlin incident define him. He is by all accounts a good human being and a good leader. He just fails as a coach in the most inopportune times. As anyone, he can still rewrite the script but only a Lombardi will change that As for Allen you are correct. He will need to elevate the game of most of the other players on offense. He is going to need to be patient with Brady and others as they fit this group together. His 110 reception security blanket is gone. He needs to be patient and get the ball to guys in position to make plays. He needs to run less and save his body for the late season and playoffs.

Jesus guys... Can't we agree McDermott's late game defense sucks AND Allen played horribly in a few games that the defense gave away - Jets and Broncos. He was brilliant in the Eagles game but McDermott's defense lost the game twice - I will be fair in that it took a miraculous kick to tie the game though.

Allen is amazing! Best QB in Bills history and is on pace to be a HOF player. But he turns the ball over too much. Sorry if you don't believe that but it's true. He leads the league in turnovers since he came into the league. Granted that is a bit misleading too as many other worse players simply are not playing over that time. Everything in the OP is true. Allen makes all those amazing plays. Problem is there is no relative weighting in your argument. One INT is not canceled by one great play or one TD. Allen probably needs to make three, four, or more great plays to overcome one turnover. The turnover ratio in a game is still one of the most predictive stats in NFL. Lose the turnover battle and most of the time you lose the game. One other point not brought up. Red zone turnovers. I think Allen didn't have a red zone turnover for what his first 3 years. He was incredible in the redzone. However, he has had several in the last two years. I'm not advocating he lose his aggressive nature. But four less picks this year might be the difference between another division title or missing the playoffs.

There are definitely some strongly held beliefs on this forum. There are people on here that think Reich was better than Kelly. The Flutie Jonhson debate could still get 100 pages easily God forbid you criticize McDermott on here. 7 seasons, 6 mostly successful but no championships and not even a AFC Championship game in the last two years. Losing record in the playoffs. Some of us would have been fien moving on from him after 13 seconds, others think he can do no wrong. Pretty certain almost everyone agrees OJ was a great athlete and a despicable guilty double murderer person.

UGH...Southwest is only slightly better that Spirit. Spend the extra cash and fly Delta if at all possible or American if you have to.

Detroit is closer to Cleveland than Buffalo. I was in the SilverDome in the past but not the new stadium. Will go to Detroit for sure. Probably Colts game as well. Seattle is still a great city. You will have fun. Stadium is loud. Stadium food is good. Check out Pike Place Market and do the underground tour. Seattle is still great. And yes Stadium is just south of downtown. Easy walk from a downtown hotel.

Agree! Start the best 5. If SVPG is just as good or almost as good as McGovern and McGovern is better than Edwards then it should be SVPG from week 1. Why waste a year. The kid played a ton of snaps at Georgia. He should be plug and play. Dorian Williams - love Milano but he is coming off a bad injury. Would like to see Williams at least split time with Milano early. They need to know if he can play in case they need to part ways with Milano after this year.

High would be one way to put it... They had two young potential HOF players in Gooden and Strawberry that drank and snorted their greatness away.

This was going to be my choice. They had not one but two HOF QBs I don't think it has been mentioned yet. UCLA Basketball under John Wooden. He had Alcindor and Walton. Arguably the two greatest big men in college basketball history.

Healthy aging Von will be vastly more productive than AJE this year.

100% agree! Guardians are 20 games over 0.500 and this stupid town is talking more about OTAs and a sexual predator's shoulder. Worst trade in NFL history and they just gave the GM an extension.

Omg post of the year!!!!

Hard to really define a back-up any more with all the multiple sets Robb Riddick Kenneth Davis Don Beebe Jerry Butler after the knee injury Wyatt Teller (too soon?) Ryan Bates/Mongo - both were versatile C/G backups Ed Jones/Art Still played opposite Bruce - not sure how often they started vs came in as backups

Only $1.1 M of Hollins salary is guaranteed and $500k of that has already been paid. So only would be another $600K to cut him. I wouldn't call that a lock.

1. Coleman 2. Shakir 3. Valdez-Scantling 4. Samuel 5. Claypool 6. Shorter They probably will keep 6. They drafted a CB that can be the punt return guy and they have signed several backup LBs that will play teams. Shorter is cheaper and younger than Hollins. Both are just STs guys. If either has to play much WR then it is bad. Isabella would be my 7th guy as a gadget type player.

Wonder what Allen said when he missed Diggs by 5 yards for 90+ yard TD catches against Miami and Pittsburgh in back to back weeks. Really have to wonder if Josh connects on those two passes if the entire narrative is different. Go back and watch the games. Josh was misfiring to Diggs a lot. Diggs played great in the week 17 game against Miami. Water under the bridge now and it's time to move on. That said Diggs' production with Stroud vs Allen's production with his new group of pass catchers will be a closely followed topic early in the season.

Wrigley during the day is great. A true must do experience. At night not so much. Neighborhood is sketchy. Not as bad as where White Sox play but still just not fun place to walk at night. Fenway is just amazing! Probably the best non Bills sports experiences I've ever had. Been there multiple times. Age 2-6 is tough. After that you will be so happy you had them back to back! I too want to get to a LSU night game. My dream is when I am working partime later in life is to ask to intern with the Bills management or coaches unpaid. Do anything from break down film to reviewing contracts. Just really see what it is like day to day. I'm sure it won't happen but when you offer up free labor who knows...

My two boys are 17 months apart too. Now they are 22 and 21

Lambeau in 2018. Bills lost 22-0. It was awful game. Josh was terrible. Must admit I left a bit underwhelmed. Glad I went but not quite the experience I hoped.

As with all things it depends... In general I would not pay big money to a RB. They are probably the most replaceable position in NFL besides guards and non-pass rushing linebackers. In addition there is an ample supply of good enough running backs. The game has changed. Many of us grew up on Thurman Thomas, Faulk, Tomlinson, and James that were elite dual threat running backs. Those guys are now mostly replaced by the superstar TE and slot WRs that create bugger mismatches. Now if you can get both parties to make a sensible deal and it is for a max of 3 years I can see a second contract getting done. The it depends part, really comes down to timing of other guys. There will be several guys off the books in 2025 and next year they have 3 picks in the top 2 rounds to add young bodies. So they can be strategic in who they let walk and who they bring back.

Wow this sucks. To me he was the greatest OG to ever play.

I think that is a fair assessment. And given some quality safeties still available in free agency they could have double dipped on WR in the second round and still addressed safety. Another RB and a future starting C were quality need picks. The S from Utah who probably is best suited to play in the box was one of my least favorite picks. There were good WR options there.

I honestly beleive Torrence has a shot at All-Pro this year. Maybe at least 2nd team. The kid can be special. At one time I said Knox was the most physically talented TE in team history. Bills may have the worst history of TEs since the merger. Not a single ProBowl. Kincaid could change all that if he continues to develop. He will never be a dominant blocker but that doesn't mean he can't be a star. Kelce is at best an average blocker. Gronk was all world in both blocking and receiving. Guys like Graham, Gates, Whitten, and Kittle were never considered elite blockers yet were elite TEs. If Kincaid turns out to be somewhere between Graham and Gates in terms of receptions/TDs he may be the second best draft pick in Beane's career.