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Really weak class and the voters still managed to really screw it up. Eric Allen and Jared Allen should not be in. I can live with Jared (not that Jared), but I can't believe Eric Allen even made it to the finalist round. Kuechly should have been voted in. How do you let Zach Thomas in and not Kuechly? They have virtually identical career accolades and I think Kuechly was actually the better player. Luke Kuechly 7× Pro Bowl (2013–2019) 5× First-team All-Pro (2013–2015, 2017, 2018) 2× Second-team All-Pro (2016, 2019) Zach Thomas 7× Pro Bowl (1999–2003, 2005, 2006) 5× First-team All-Pro (1998, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2006) 2× Second-team All-Pro (2001, 2005) I realize their is a bias against special teams and I don't believe Steve Tasker belongs in the HOF, but how do you keep Adam Vinatieri out? He made some of the most memorable kicks of all time. I said before Eli is not a HOF talent but he had HOF playoff moments and 2 SuperBowl wins. I don't see how you keep him out and just making him wait a year is sill. As for the WRs, I am ok with not voting in any of them. If I had to choose one it probably would have been Reggie Wayne. He's 10th all time in receiving yards and 7 of those years he had to share the ball with Marvin Harrison.

You know there is a difference between free agency and trades? As it stands right now there is not a dominant difference maker about to hit free agency. That could change. Strange things happen. But seems unlikely. So if you want a true difference maker then Beane needs to deal draft picks and get a star like he did with Diggs. Look at last years draft. Not a single player made a difference. 2nd and 3rd round picks barely played all year. Coleman had a couple good games. You can not expect the next draft to find a superstar that contributes right away. If you want that you need to trade some draft picks.

Now go get us a Lombardi!!! We love you Josh!!!

You can bet he will be trash talking about this next season!!!!

McD keeps saying the ball comes out too quick with these elite QBs to get any pass rush. A switch to tighter man coverage may be a way to get them to hold onto the ball longer.

They need a DE that gets the ball back to the offense. Josh will figure what to do from there...

Bring back Cooper and Hollins and draft some competition for Coleman in the middle rounds. The rest of the offense is set if you bring back Johnson. Let Davidson and Morris battle for TE 3 If you can convince Cooper to take a reasonable deal, it opens up the coffers and draft picks to rebuild the DL and secondary. Every other team held the Chiefs to less points than the Bills. They must fix the defense. You can't expect Josh to play this perfectly all the time in the playoffs. They need the defense to do their part. The D got turnovers against Baltimore but once again got shredded when it mattered most. If Andrews catches that ball and the Bills lose at home again, McD may have been fired. The playoff defense has been the problem for multiple years. Beane has been fairly awful when it comes to the DL. He has to get it right this time.

I think they tried this approach already. Maybe if White didn't tear his ACL in New Orleans it would have worked. I get your point. They need to hope Bishop blossoms and Benford can be a true #1 CB. They will probably go with Bishop and Rapp but I expect one veteran and one rookie to be added to the mix. Time to say goodbye to Hamlin. At CB, I'm torn. Elam is a bust but there is little reason not to bring him to camp. He has zero trade value. Douglas wasn't that great all year but not terrible either. He should be easy to replace but hard to upgrade. Get the DL right and I think McDermott will patch together a secondary. My biggest fear is that Taron is in decline. There is no one one the roster that can replace him.

Probably won't know but he was terrible before the injuries. In a weird way the injuries may have kept him on a NFL roster longer than had he not been injured.

No thanks. Too expensive. Too many injuries. They can keep Cooper for less

Knowles leaving for the same job with PSU as DC still is head scratching. Do you know why he left?

HIs offense was innovative with the read option and fast paced spread offense in college. Now everyone runs it. He did not adapt well to the pro game. his Ohio State performance was hard to judge given the O-line injuries they had. He called a terrible game against Michigan but the OSU kicker and QB played terribly too. He is nothing special as a play caller and certainly not worth making double what other OC's are getting.

Tired of reading abut the officials. Cook was right don't leave it up to them McDermott should have challenged the spot Brady should have had other options than repeated QB sneak Kincaid should have caught the ball A few new PRs over the weekend in the gym 55# shoulder dumbbell presses two sets of 10 reps 165# lat pull downs two sets of 10 reps 817# leg press seated machine, 10 reps!! Milled my rough cherry for my shaker leg tables! Looking forward to MVP voting. Really want Josh to win, but if he got slighted would only add more fuel to fire to destroy the league next year! Also looking forward to HOF class. A few locks in an otherwise weak class I'd vote in: Antonio Gates - many other guys have moved past him on the list of all time greats but he is still a top 10 TE of all-time. Eli Manning (not a HOF talent but two SuperBowls and multiple HOF caliber throws in the playoffs will make him first ballot HOF inductee) Adma Venitieri - can't write the story of Pats dynasty and thus the NFL without those kicks in the snow against the Raiders. Luke Kuechly - need one guy on defense. He made a lot of plays. Not physically intimidating but if you let in Zach Thomas then Kuechly belongs too as he was better than Thomas in every way. I'm decidedly on the fence with both Reggie Wayne(supported him in the past) and Tory Holt( said no in the past). Neither seem like generational talents but they do have numbers. My guess is they vote in Holt and leave out Wayne again as I think Holt has been eligible longer.

Yes the Bills need a #1 WR, but the much bigger need is fixing the DL. They need at least one star to pair with Oliver and Rousseau

They need a legit ProBowl level player somewhere on the DL and the need a top 20 WR to go with all the guys they are bringing back. A solid edge rookie to replace Epenesa a d compete with Solomon. Then they will need a CB and S but they can be solid not superstar guys. Bring back Johnson and let Morris and Davidson compete for TE#3. I'd let Trubisky go, bring back White and draft a late round prospect QB. My perfect off season would be: Cut Miller, Epenesa, and Trubis then let Hamlin and Douglas walk. Get Milano to take a pay cut like they did with Miller. Bring back Johnson. Garrett for #1 in 2025 and 2026 and swap Minn 2nd for Cleveland 's 3rd. That should be enough to get it done Sign Cooper to 3 yr deal. Sign middle of the road veteran DT, CB, and S all to no more than 2 year deals. Extend Josh. Draft DT or CB in second round. Add another edge, a punter, another CB and a late round QB. Last move if you can, extend Shakir. Make Rousseau and Bernard play out their contracts. No extensions for either.

Agreed! Makes no sense. Even changing up the snap cadence probably gets an Offside. Also it would be nice if they had called Jones being lined up in the neutral zone.

Guys he lies every year. He never tells the truth. And he should lie to us and the media. There is no upside to telling the truth. He has signed FA's every year. Even when they had no money last year he still got Samuel, brought back DQ, and traded for Cooper. He will be active this year. I just hope this year he mortgages the future for a big trade acquisition like he did with Diggs. That is what the defense needs to put us over the top.

Actually everyone except Diggs was expected. Maybe Morse was a bit of a surprise.

Not winning a championship with a HOF QB is more exhausting

It's too late for 2025. The window to fire him was last year when they could have chosen Johnson, Harbaugh, or Belichick. Allen already said he doesn't want to install a new offense. No way you fire McD just to promote Brady. Who would you hire? McCarthy? Kingsbury? Like I said this next year is more about Beane and Brady. Beane has got to fix the defensive line.

Agree. Levy needed to intervene and he didn't. Thurman could have had 250 combined yards taht day. Plus Talley missed like 8 tackles that game.

Lol. Brady left the same situation in Boston and won a SuperBowl elsewhere. They hate him now. Josh is amazing for Buffalo but money is money. They have to extend him this year with a massive guaranteed amount of money this year and spread the cap hit. If they don't they have very little cap room.

No. They didn't have enough talent up front and injuries in secondary were a legit excuse. We knew it from day 1. The minute Beane signed Epenesa to an extension we knew the DL was screwed. The surprise was the drop off in DQ play. That hurt. Rousseau is just far too inconsistent and that really hurt them against KC. Bishop had better get much better next year or it will add to long list of 2nd round busts for Beane.

Brady choked. He kept letting Allen run QB sneaks when simple runs woukd have worked just as well. The whole season we screamed for more play action and he never delivered. Remember the narrative before the season on Cook?? Could we get a 2nd? He can't catch? He can't break tackles? People on this board look a bit foolishness now...but they will never own up to it

Wrong analysis We lost to the Giants because of Levy not reigning in Kelly We lost the next three because the NFC was the far superior conference and Washington and Dallas were bigger, stronger, and faster. We lost to KC in the 13 second game because McD choked. We lost the next three playoff games becuase the team was gassed after Hamlin, injuries on defense and Bass, and then this year because Brady sucked and Allen played a B+ game. I've been a McDermott critic since 13 seconds and I would have fired him last year in favor of Harbaugh or Belichick. Now there is no one better to get. Run it back one more year. 2025 is mostly on Beane. He has to find a #1 WR and fix the DL and secondary. He will have the cap space and draft capital to do both.