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Hail Murray.

On a related note, it is disappointing the NFL UK decided to show Tampa Bay at San Francisco as its late game instead of the Jets at Buffalo, which Australia and New Zealand (and also Brazil and Mexico) wisely decided to do.

[Note 1: Doubleheader this week is CBS.] [Note 2: There *is* a MNF ManningCast this week.] [Note 3: Remember: the TNF game is free and legal to all on Twitch--no Amazon Prime account needed.] [Note 4: Remember: all MNF games this season are also simulcasted on ABC unless there is a separate game on ESPN, as in Week 14.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2023&wk=11 https://archive.506sports.com/wiki/2023_NFL_Season NFL Week 11, 2023 - November 19, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: TNF - Amazon Prime Video/Twitch Thursday, November 16 - 8:15 PM ET: Cincinnati at Baltimore Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung [simulcasts: WCPO (ABC/9) Cincinnati and WMAR (ABC/2) Baltimore] SNF - NBC Sunday, November 19 - 8:20 PM ET: Minnesota at Denver Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark MNF - ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 Monday, November 20 - 8:15 PM ET: Philadelphia at Kansas City Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters [ManningCast on ESPN2: Peyton Manning, Eli Manning] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Early: Sunday, November 19 - 1 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska): Pittsburgh at Cleveland (2) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn █ Blue (including Hawaii): Las Vegas at Miami (3) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins █ Green: Tennessee at Jacksonville (5) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Amanda Renner █ Yellow (Yellow): Arizona at Houston (6) Tom McCarthy, James Lofton, Jay Feeley, Tiffany Blackmon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Late: Sunday, November 19 - 4:25 PM ET: █ Red (including Hawaii): New York Jets at Buffalo (1) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson █ Blue (including Alaska): Seattle at Los Angeles Rams (4) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Single November 19, 2023 - 1:00 PM and 4:05 PM ET: █ Red Dallas at Carolina (1) Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andrews, Tom Rinaldi █ Green (including Alaska): Los Angeles Chargers at Green Bay Kevin Kugler, Mark Sanchez, Laura Okmin █ Yellow (Yellow): Chicago at Detroit (3) Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth, Kristina Pink █ Orange: New York Giants at Washington Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Shannon Spake █ Blue (including Hawaii): Tampa Bay at San Francisco (LATE) (2) Joe Davis, Daryl Johnston, Pam Oliver ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK and Ireland: https://www.skysports.com/watch/nfl-on-sky https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings/ TNF Friday, November 17 - 1:15 AM GMT: Cincinnati at Baltimore Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Sunday Early Game Sunday, November 19 - 6 PM GMT: Pittsburgh at Cleveland Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Sunday Late Game Sunday, November 19 - 9:05 PM GMT: Tampa Bay at San Francisco Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event SNF Monday, November 20 - 1:20 AM GMT: Minnesota at Denver Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event MNF Tuesday, November 21 - 1:15 AM GMT: Philadelphia at Kansas City Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event, and Channel 5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Australia: https://www.ussportsdownunder.com.au/blogs/tv-guides/australian-nfl-tv-guide TNF Friday, November 17 - 12:15 AM AEDT: Cincinnati at Baltimore ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, November 20 - 5:00 AM AEDT: Las Vegas at Miami 7mate Pittsburgh at Cleveland ESPN Chicago at Detroit ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, November 20 - 8:25 AM AEDT: Seattle at Los Angeles Rams 7mate New York Jets at Buffalo ESPN SNF Monday, November 20 - 12:20 AM AEDT: Minnesota at Denver ESPN MNF Tuesday, November 21 - 12:15 AM AEDT: Philadelphia at Kansas City ESPN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand: TNF Friday, November 17 - 2:15 PM NZDT: Cincinnati at Baltimore ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, November 20 - 7:00 AM NZDT: Las Vegas at Miami Free stream on NZTV+ Dallas at Carolina Free stream on NZTV+ Pittsburgh at Cleveland ESPN Chicago at Detroit ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, November 20 - 10:25 AM NZDT: Seattle at Los Angeles Rams Free stream on NZTV+ New York Jets at Buffalo ESPN SNF Monday, November 20 - 2:20 PM NZDT: Minnesota at Denver ESPN MNF Tuesday, November 21 - 2:15 PM NZDT: Philadelphia at Kansas City ESPN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byes: Atlanta, Indianapolis, New England, New Orleans ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jets held a players-only meeting today. Uh oh... does this bode bad for Buffalo?

The Bills will dominate the Jets as the players will rally around the embattled McD, just as the Michigan players rallied around their embattled coach Jim Harbaugh

NFL Capsules - Week 11: https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2023 Football Information/Capsules/Week 11 Capsules.pdf [scroll 3/4 of the way down] Note: this is Eck's first year as a referee, and his has never worked together before this season. The crew was formed from six different crews. Alan Eck: first season as referee Pos. No. Name Exp. 2022 Crew College Occupation R 76 Alan Eck 8 Hussey Bloomsburg State tax manager U 110 Tab Slaughter 4 Novak Arkansas State COO DJ 74 Derick Bowers 21 Blakeman East Central sales representative LJ 134 Robin DeLorenzo 2 Hussey Fordham CFO, Telecommunications FJ 117 John Jenkins 10 Kemp St. Mary's sales executive SJ 104 Dale Slaw 11 Kemp Allegheny pharmaceutical sales BJ 78 Greg Meyer 22 Clark Texas Christian banker RO n/a Denise Crudup 4 Torbert Wilmington unknown RO n/a Gerald Frye 4 Torbert unknown unknown Position changes: Eck: U to R DeLorenzo: DJ to LJ Week 8 2023: https://www.outkick.com/diontae-johnson-openly-bashes-nfl-referees-blames-them-for-steelers-loss-to-jaguars/ "In Week 8, the Pittsburgh Steelers felt that the referees were out to get them. Steelers kicker Chris Boswell hit a 55-yard field goal at the end of the first half to put Pittsburgh down 9-6 heading into halftime. Except, officials threw a flag on the play. “Offside,” referee Alan Eck announced. Everyone expected the next words to be “on the defense.” Instead, Eck said that the Steelers right guard lined up Offside and negated the field goal." https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-worst-bryce-young-brian-daboll-nfl-officiating/ "Perhaps the league is a bit sensitive about roughing the passer after referee Alan Eck failed to call a textbook penalty against Jacksonville Jaguars defensive tackle Adam Gotsis in Week 8 in what was a textbook example of what the NFL doesn’t want you to do. Pickett was injured on the play, but perhaps the guys in Eck’s crew had the Burger King commercial theme in their heads."

Sorry... I've been busy. Too many pages for me to read through and check. I'll check more next time. 🍻

So I originally wanted to know if players-only meetings worked. I now have my answer. ☹️ SMH.

Let it be known that the Bills are giant killers. 2020: KC beats Buffalo in the AFCCG and then goes on to lose to Tampa Bay in the SB 2021: KC beats Buffalo in the divisional then goes on to lose to Cincinnati in the AFCCG. 2022: Cincinnati beats Buffalo in the divisional and goes on to lose to KC in the AFCCG. 2023: Cincinnati beats Buffalo on SNF Week 9 then goes on to lose to Houston in Week 10. Teams are so worn out from playing us they lose the following week.

And YouTube is very happy with this. The NFL wants to push sales with them. (And in the NFL's defense, the Giants were projected to be a much better team this year.)

A good question. I try to make these threads when the announcers are first made known by the networks. CBS usually makes them known to the public 10 days before the game. The assignments are made well before then but not released publicly. They have to so everyone can make flight arrangements and the like. FOX makes them early too, but they don't publicly announce them until five to seven days before the game. (Occasionally the announcers make the assignments known to the public themselves, via social media, during the previous week's games, or on talk shows.) I posted the announcers for this Sunday's game (Week 10 - Denver at Buffalo) last week (and then again on the Wednesday maps thread). This thread is for next week (Week 11), when we host the Jets and get CBS's A team.

You can tell many here feel the season is starting to go into the tank when much of talk on TBD is about next year's schedule, the draft, contracts, and new coaches. Yikes. I still think there is much hope we can turn it around and when the division and more.

Haha...I wish! Thanks for the catch!

The FOX announcers may be made known Sunday night or Monday, and I will update this then. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Note 1: Doubleheader this week is CBS.] [Note 2: There *is* a MNF ManningCast this week.] [Note 3: Remember: the TNF game is free and legal to all on Twitch--no Amazon Prime account needed.] [Note 4: Remember: all MNF games this season are also simlucasted on ABC unless there is a separate game on ESPN, as in Week 14.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NFL Week 11, 2023 - November 19, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: TNF - Amazon Prime Video/Twitch Thursday, November 16 - 8:15 PM ET: Cincinnati at Baltimore Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung [simulcasts on local free TV in Cincinnati and Baltimore] SNF - NBC Sunday, November 19 - 8:20 PM ET: Minnesota at Denver Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark MNF - ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 Monday, November 20 - 8:15 PM ET: Philadelphia at Kansas City Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters [ManningCast on ESPN2: Peyton Manning, Eli Manning] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Early: Sunday, November 19 - 1 PM ET: Pittsburgh at Cleveland (2) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn Las Vegas at Miami (3) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins Tennessee at Jacksonville (5) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Amanda Renner Arizona at Houston (6) Tom McCarthy, James Lofton, Jay Feeley, Tiffany Blackmon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Late: Sunday, November 19 - 4:25 PM ET: New York Jets at Buffalo (1) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson Seattle at Los Angeles Rams (4) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Single November 19, 2023 - 1:00 PM and 4:05 PM ET: Dallas at Carolina TBD, TBD, TBD New York Giants at Washington TBD, TBD, TBD Los Angeles Chargers at Green Bay TBD, TBD, TBD Chicago at Detroit TBD, TBD, TBD Tampa Bay at San Francisco (LATE) TBD, TBD, TBD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byes: Atlanta, Indianapolis, New England, New Orleans ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The whole discussion is moot. Beane/Pegula would never hire a known cheater.

Hate to bump this, but this is a cool moment from the London game and was just posted on NFL-UK:

On the Carolina forum they are calling for him to be fired. Some say he won't make it past this weekend. Great QB but horrible coach. Not sure how he beat Buffalo a few years ago.

Probably felt a two-field-goal lead against Carolina was sufficient? That's all I got.

Chicago can't lose since they also own Carolina's first-round pick. They enhance their draft position win or lose.

I feel sorry for the a** whooping about to be handed to Denver Monday.