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Thankfully he's gone now, so Hochuli and his crew won't hold that incident against us.

[Note 1: Doubleheader this week is CBS.] [Note 2: There is *no* MNF ManningCast this week.] [Note 3: Remember: the TNF game is free and legal to all on Twitch--no Amazon Prime account needed.] [Note 4: Remember: all MNF games this season are also simulcasted on ABC unless there is a separate game on ESPN, as in Week 14.] [Note 5: The Black Friday game this week is available free on Amazon to everyone. No subscription is needed.] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2023&wk=12 https://archive.506sports.com/wiki/2023_NFL_Season NFL Week 12, 2023 - November 26, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: Thanksgiving - FOX Thursday, November 23 - 12:30 PM ET: Green Bay at Detroit (1) Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andrews, Tom Rinaldi Thanksgiving - CBS Thursday, November 23 - 4:30 PM ET: Washington at Dallas (1) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson Thanksgiving - NBC Thursday, November 23 - 8:00 PM ET: San Francisco at Seattle Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark Black Friday - Amazon Prime Video/Twitch Friday, November 24 - 3:00 PM ET: Miami at New York Jets Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung Free Amazon stream for everyone. No subscription needed. [simulcasts: WFOR (CBS/4) Miami and WNYW (FOX/5) New York] SNF - NBC Sunday, November 19 - 8:20 PM ET: Baltimore at Los Angeles Chargers Mike Tirico, Jason Garrett, Melissa Stark MNF - ABC/ESPN Monday, November 20 - 8:15 PM ET: Chicago at Minnesota Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Early: Sunday, November 26 - 1 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): Pittsburgh at Cincinnati (2) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn █ Blue: Jacksonville at Houston (4) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross █ Green: Tampa Bay at Indianapolis (5) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Amanda Renner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Late: Sunday, November 26 - 4:25 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): Buffalo at Philadelphia (1) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson █ Blue: Kansas City at Las Vegas (3) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins █ Gray (Blackout) [Gray (Blackout)]: Arizona is exercising its right to enforce a blackout in its DMA on CBS. [Home teams have to allow the other network to air a competing game in the same time slot four times a year but can enforce a blackout if that number has been or will be exceeded that season. See the tweet at the end of this post.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Single November 26, 2023 - 1:00 PM and 4:05 PM ET: █ Red New Orleans at Atlanta (2) Joe Davis, Daryl Johnston, Pam Oliver █ Green: New England at New York Giants Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Shannon Spake █ Orange: Carolina at Tennessee (3) Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth, Kristina Pink █ Blue (including Alaska and Hawaii): Cleveland at Denver (LATE) Kevin Kugler, Mark Sanchez, Laura Okmin █ Yellow (Yellow): Los Angeles Rams at Arizona (LATE) (6) Chris Myers, Robert Smith, Jen Hale ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byes: None ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK and Ireland: https://www.skysports.com/watch/nfl-on-sky https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings/ Thanksgiving Early Thursday, November 23 - 5:30 PM GMT: Green Bay at Detroit Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event, Sky Mix, Sky Max Thanksgiving Late Thursday, November 23 - 9:30 PM GMT: Washington at Dallas Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Thanksgiving Finale Friday, November 24 - 1:20 AM GMT: San Francisco at Seattle Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Black Friday Friday, November 24 - 8:00 PM ET: Miami at New York Jets Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event [joined in progress at 10 PM] Sunday Early Game Sunday, November 26 - 6 PM GMT: Jacksonville at Houston Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event [joined in progress at 7 PM] Sunday Late Game Sunday, November 26 - 9:25 PM GMT: Buffalo at Philadelphia Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event SNF Monday, November 27 - 1:20 AM GMT: Baltimore at Los Angeles Chargers Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event MNF Tuesday, November 28 - 1:15 AM GMT: Chicago at Minnesota Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event, and Channel 5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Australia: https://www.ussportsdownunder.com.au/blogs/tv-guides/australian-nfl-tv-guide Thanksgiving Early Friday, November 24 - 4:30 AM AEDT: Green Bay at Detroit ESPN Thanksgiving Late Friday, November 24 - 8:30 AM AEDT: Washington at Dallas ESPN Thanksgiving Finale Friday, November 24 - 12:20 PM AEDT: San Francisco at Seattle ESPN Black Friday Saturday, November 25 - 7:00 AM AEDT: Miami at New York Jets ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, November 27 - 5:00 AM AEDT: Jacksonville at Houston 7mate Pittsburgh at Cincinnati ESPN Tampa Bay at Indianapolis ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, November 27 - 8:25 AM AEDT: Kansas City at Las Vegas 7mate Buffalo at Philadelphia ESPN SNF Monday, November 27 - 12:20 PM AEDT: Baltimore at Los Angeles Chargers ESPN MNF Tuesday, November 28 - 12:15 PM AEDT: Chicago at Minnesota ESPN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand: Thanksgiving Early Friday, November 24 - 6:30 AM NZDT: Green Bay at Detroit ESPN Thanksgiving Late Friday, November 24 - 10:30 AM NZDT: Washington at Dallas ESPN Thanksgiving Finale Friday, November 24 - 2:20 PM NZDT: San Francisco at Seattle ESPN Black Friday Saturday, November 25 - 9:00 AM NZDT: Miami at New York Jets ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, November 27 - 7:00 AM NZDT: Jacksonville at Houston Free stream on NZTV+ Carolina at Tennessee Free stream on NZTV+ Pittsburgh at Cincinnati ESPN Tampa Bay at Indianapolis ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, November 27 - 10:25 AM NZDT: Kansas City at Las Vegas Free stream on NZTV+ Buffalo at Philadelphia ESPN SNF Monday, November 27 - 2:20 PM NZDT: Baltimore at Los Angeles Chargers ESPN MNF Tuesday, November 28 - 2:15 PM NZDT: Chicago at Minnesota ESPN ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Minor flex for Week 13 (December 3): https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/Week-13-Flex-Scheduling---Dec.-3-Broncos-Texans-Game-Moves-to-1-p.m.-ET;-Panthers-Buccaneers--to-405-p.m.-ET-on-CBS.aspx CBS Single: Denver at Houston from 4:05 PM ET to 1 PM ET Carolina at Tampa Bay from 1 PM ET to 4:05 PM ET

Strange, you also said yesterday you have a feeling the Bills will beat Philadelphia: [You're also following 666 people on twitter with the "Beast" in your name. Hmmm...probably just coincidence.]

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/worst-of-the-week-nfl-officiating-matt-canada-jack-del-rio/ Shaun Hochuli's road cooking in the Browns-Steelers game. "The Cleveland Browns must have been wondering what they walked into when they played the Pittsburgh Steelers Sunday at their own Cleveland Browns Stadium, because referee Shawn Hochuli and his crew had some serious road cooking in the Steelers’ favor. With 10:28 left in the first quarter, Steelers quarterback Kenny Pickett was sacked by Browns edge terror Myles Garrett. The box score will tell you that Pickett was down at his own one-yard line, but it certainly looked as if Pickett was sacked in the end zone for a safety, and two points for the Browns. CBS Sports rules analyst and former NFL referee Gene Steratore agreed." "Sadly, this was not the inly [sic] instance in which Stefanski’s team would have legitimate issues with Hochuli and his crew."

NFL Capsules Week 12: https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2023 Football Information/Capsules/Week 12 Capsules.pdf [scroll 7/8 of way down] Shawn Hochuli - 6th season as referee Pos. No. Name Exp. 2022 Crew College Occupation R 83 Shawn Hochuli 10 n/a Claremont Financial Advisor U 77 Terry Killens 5 same Penn State Campus Security Manager and former NFL Player DJ 106 Patrick Holt 5 same North Carolina State IT Manager LJ 47 Tim Podraza 16 Torbert Nebraska Business Performance Consultant FJ 72 Jason Ledet Rookie n/a [unknown] [unkown] SJ 125 Chad Hill 6 same Mississippi Medical Sales BJ 39 Rich Martinez 10 same Canisius Sales Manager RO n/a Tyler Cerimeli 6 same Arizona State High School Officials Coordinator RA n/a Mark Bitar 4 same Seton Hall [unknown] Terry Killens was a LB for Tennessee, San Francsico, and Seattle from 1996 to 2002: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KillTe20.htm [Speaking of Canisius in the table above, 20 years ago some news reporter in Pennsylvania, where I was living at the time, pronounced it [Can-ni-Si-us] and I almost died.] https://nypost.com/2022/01/24/tom-bradys-penalty-explained-by-ref-got-in-my-face/ Why ‘aggressive’ Tom Brady got first career unsportsmanlike conduct penalty "Tom Brady unleashed on referee Shawn Hochuli in Sunday’s divisional round of the playoffs that saw the reigning Super Bowl champion Buccaneers fall to the Rams. “He got in my face in an aggressive manner and used abusive language,” Hochuli said after the game, explaining his decision to penalize Brady. Brady screamed at Hochuli after taking a hit from Los Angeles linebacker Von Miller, which left him with a bloody lip. The quarterback was frustrated that there was no roughing the passer called on the play, and instead received a penalty — marking his first unsportsmanlike conduct call against him in his 22-year career." https://brobible.com/sports/article/nfl-shawn-hochuli-facemask-penalty/ "NFL Ref Shawn Hochuli Gets Blasted By Fans For Incorrectly Calling Phantom Facemask Penalty On Titans" "During Thursday night’s Titans-Niners game, Hochuli called a facemask penalty on Tennessee despite the fact that the Titans player obviously missed the facemask and held on to a shoulder pad while trying to make a tackle." https://www.footballzebras.com/2018/12/buffalo-bills-player-jerry-hughes-accosts-officials-after-week-13-game/ Bills DE Jerry Hughes accosts officials in tunnel after game "At the conclusion of the Dolphins-Bills Week 13 game, Jerry Hughes of the Bills ran off the field and up the tunnel to confront Shawn Hochuli’s crew. Video was captured by Spectrum News reporter Jon Scott. It appears that Hughes is in a verbal altercation with one official, but with the video angle, we cannot accurately report who he’s going after. Our best guess is that it is umpire Roy Ellison. Notably, Ellison was suspended in 2013 for using derogatory language towards a player on the field who was yelling objectionable racial slang. What we do see is field judge Tom Hill (foreground) and side judge Chad Hill (number 125, no relation) separating Hughes and the official. It is very rare for players and officials to meet in the tunnel under the stadium. Hughes had to make a special trip to find the officials. The potentially disturbing aspect of this video is Hughes apparently accusing an official of calling him a “B word.” The NFL will take statements from Shawn Hochuli and the official involved, and will get Hughes’ side of the story. We have word that the league is looking into the situation now. https://nypost.com/2023/01/22/nfl-referee-shawn-hochuli-has-hot-mic-moment-during-chiefs-jaguars/ NFL referee Shawn Hochuli has hot-mic moment during Chiefs’ win over Jaguars "Shawn Hochuli needed the fans at Arrowhead Stadium to start using their inside voices. As he readied himself to announce a penalty during the second quarter of Saturday’s Chiefs-Jaguars Divisional Round game, Hochuli turned his mic on a second too early. “Everybody shut up,” Hochuli was heard saying, before calling roughing the passer against the Jaguars’ Arden Key. With the Chiefs on their way to a fifth consecutive AFC title game, as they beat Jacksonville 27-20 behind a hobbled Patrick Mahomes, you could forgive the crowd for not complying."

Chargers and Steelers lost today.

LOL...from the Jets forum: https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/awful.99626/#post-4367404 "That players-only meeting is really paying off, huh?"

And here is another gem from a few days ago:

The bad news is we also get him next week at Philly and then two weeks later at KC.

Oops!

Funny how people are complaining here. We have a new OC against a top defense. We are doing great! The Bills are back!

UPDATE 2: CBS Early: Birmingham and Montgomery AL: PIT-CLE to LV-MIA (Fri) Map has been changed.

We get the CBS A-team for two weeks in a row! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Note 1: Doubleheader this week is CBS.] [Note 2: There is *no* MNF ManningCast this week.] [Note 3: Remember: the TNF game is free and legal to all on Twitch--no Amazon Prime account needed.] [Note 4: Remember: all MNF games this season are also simulcasted on ABC unless there is a separate game on ESPN, as in Week 14.] [Note 5: The Black Friday game this week is available free on Amazon to everyone. No subscription is needed.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NFL Week 12, 2023 - November 26, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: Thanksgiving - FOX Thursday, November 23 - 12:30 PM ET: Green Bay at Detroit (1) Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andrews, Tom Rinaldi Thanksgiving - CBS Thursday, November 23 - 4:30 PM ET: Washington at Dallas (1) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson Thanksgiving - NBC Thursday, November 23 - 8:00 PM ET: San Francisco at Seattle Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark Black Friday - Amazon Prime Video/Twitch Friday, November 24 - 3:00 PM ET: Miami at New York Jets Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung Free Amazon stream for everyone. No subscription needed. [simulcasts on local free TV in Miami and New York] SNF - NBC Sunday, November 19 - 8:20 PM ET: Baltimore at Los Angeles Chargers Mike Tirico, Jason Garrett, Melissa Stark MNF - ABC/ESPN Monday, November 20 - 8:15 PM ET: Chicago at Minnesota Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Early: Sunday, November 26 - 1 PM ET: Pittsburgh at Cincinnati (2) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn Jacksonville at Houston (4) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross Tampa Bay at Indianapolis (5) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Amanda Renner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Late: Sunday, November 26 - 4:25 PM ET: Buffalo at Philadelphia (1) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson Kansas City at Las Vegas (3) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Single November 26, 2023 - 1:00 PM and 4:05 PM ET: New England at New York Giants TBD, TBD, TBD New Orleans at Atlanta TBD, TBD, TBD Carolina at Tennessee Adam Amin, TBD, TBD [per Amin's Instagram story:] Los Angeles Rams at Arizona (LATE) TBD, TBD, TBD Cleveland at Denver (LATE) TBD, TBD, TBD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byes: None ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The solution is simple:

LOL...did you hear Al? The Bengals will have lost 24 of their last 25 prime time games, dating back to 1998.

Have some confidence people. In 2021 we were 6-4 and then 7-6. We'll know more after the Jets game. I think the Bills return to their old selves and rally around McD and Brady.

Well, our game Sunday now has one less market (though in defense, some areas pf Montana are mostly Seattle fans): UPDATES: CBS Late: Great Falls MT: NYJ-BUF to SEA-LAR (Thu) FOX Single: Billings MT: DAL-CAR to LAC-GB (Thu) Maps have been changed.

Sorry if posted already somewhere:

Probably was posted already someplace here:

Ywah, Im worried about Buffalo, but the Bills always surprise me (often with losses). Hopefully this time they rally around McD to save his job, and the season. We will be in a national window for the nation to judge us.