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Yeah, I was going to say that Week 1 is not the same as in the olden days. Cincy, the Chargers, KC, Buffalo, the Giants, Seattle, and Minnesota, all good teams from last year, all lost. I think people are making too much out of the first week. [Also, thanks for spelling "minuscule" correctly. I almost always see it spelled wrong.]

Be careful what you wish for. Wade Phillips was 29-19 plus 0-2 in the playoffs in his three years as HC in Buffalo. Ralph then fired him after the 2000 season. We had 16 more drought years. Didn't work out too well. He eventually went on to become a successful coach at Dallas, being 34-22 plus 1-2 in the playoffs. If McD is fired, who is going to replace him that is better? McD will also have his pick of jobs if he wants. Teams will snap him up fast.

OTOH, the Jets OL gave up the 3rd most pressures in Week 1, and four of the five worst teams below all were blown out, except one, who won:

He'll probably be back next season.

Minnesota's TD would been for the lead if they hadn't fumbled away the ball in the end zone at the half.

Hi! [You said "hi". I've never seen anyone do that here! Awesome! And welcome to the board.]

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/nfl-official-explains-why-one-of-footballs-worst-rules-exists-in-the-first-place “Because the goal line is involved — and this is a consistent application of the impetus rule,” Blandino said. “Impetus is the force that puts the ball into an end zone. So if a team provides the impetus that puts a ball into their opponent’s end zone . . . then they are responsible for it. They’re responsible for it. And if the ball gets out of bounds through the end zone then it is a touchback. […] “Now that may seem like an egregious penalty but again, think about it, they put the ball into their opponent’s end zone,” Blandino said. “If it’s not fourth down or inside two minutes, if they recover it, it’s a score. So that’s potentially a big play, so the penalty for not recovering it . . . has to be big as well. That’s why it’s a touchback. That’s consistent with other loose balls that go into an opponent’s end zone. Kicks, punts, fumbles, backward passes.” “You’re responsible for putting the ball into your opponent’s end zone, you’re responsible for recovering it,” Blandino said. “If you don’t and it goes out of bounds or the defense recovers, they’ve defended their goal line, and they get a touchback.”

Neither did I until about an hour ago! This is a huge well-kept secret.

Ok...I'm eating dinner right now reading this. Sill, lol!

Do not forget that Amazon owns Twitch and will once again air every Prime Video TNF game for free. It is legal too. It is also super fast. Amazon never advertises this, as they want you to buy Prime. https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/thursday-night-football-how-to-watch-stream-vikings-vs-eagles-on-prime-video-or-twitch/ "Fans in the local market of each team playing on Thursday night will be able to watch on an over-the-air station, while those who don't pay for either of Amazon's services can watch for free on Prime Video's Twitch channel (Twitch is also owned by Amazon)."

I changed the title for clarity. Thanks!

LMAO [For those unfamiliar, here are his tweets:]

Never ever trust an Uber driver!!!!

Short excerpt from the article: he NFL is expanding its international reach and is planning to play a regular season game in Spain. Two sources with knowledge of the plans have said that a game in Madrid is all but locked in for 2024. This will expand upon the current slate of international games, with three in London and two in Frankfurt this year. Germany will host games in Munich, as it did last season, in addition to Frankfurt. Games in Mexico City have been put on hold while Estadio Azteca is renovated for the upcoming FIFA World Cup. [...] Two venues are under consideration: Estadio Metropolitano, home stadium of Atlético Madrid, with a capacity of 70,460 and a natural grass field; and Estadio Santiago Bernabéu, home of Real Madrid, with a capacity of 83,168 and a hybrid grass field reinforced with synthetic fibers. The latter has a new feature (see the video below) that allows sections of the field to retract below pitch level for maintenance and improved growth environment. Sources have said that the NFL UK offices have been actively scouting the sites in Madrid before a final decision."

Not sure if posted:

1. I actually was excepting Wison to do something against us, given his performance vs. us last year with an inferior offense. 2. Bills shooting themselves in the foot sounds familiar, unfortunately. Haha...love it! You're right...take the penalty. I'm just saying with the Bills luck, the Jests probably convert the 3rd and 23.

You're both probably right, but: 1. KC was very unlikely to score to tie the game with 13 seconds left in the 2021 playoffs vs. Buffalo 2. Arizona was very unlikely to score with 11 seconds left against Buffalo, down 30-26 in the 2021 regular season. 3. Minnesota was very unlikely to convert on 4th and 18 against Buffalo last year We all know what happened.

UPDATE: Bend OR: LV-BUF to LAC-TN (Fri) Map has been updated. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2023&wk=2 [UK listings near the bottom] "September 17, 2023 All listings are unofficial and subject to change. Check back often for updates." [Note: This week and Week 3 there are two MNF games, scheduled to start at 7:15 PM ET and 8:15 PM ET.] [Note 2: Doubleheader this week is CBS.] [Note 3: There is no MNF ManningCast this week.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NFL Week 2 2023 - September 17, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: TNF - Amazon Prime Video Thursday, September 14 - 8:15 PM ET: Minnesota at Philadelphia Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung [simulcasts: KMSP (FOX/9) Minneapolis and WTXF (FOX/29) Philadelphia] SNF - NBC Sunday, September 17 - 8:20 PM ET: Miami at New England Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark MNF Game 1 - ESPN Monday, September 18 - 7:15 PM ET: New Orleans at Carolina (2) Chris Fowler, Dan Orlovsky, Louis Riddick, Laura Rutledge [simulcasts: WDSU (NBC/6) New Orleans and WAXN (64) Charlotte] MNF Game 2 - ABC Monday, September 18 - 8:15 PM ET: Cleveland at Pittsburgh (1) Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Early Sunday, September 17 - 1 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): Kansas City at Jacksonville (2) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn █ Blue: Las Vegas at Buffalo (3) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins █ Green: Baltimore at Cincinnati (4) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross █ Yellow (Yellow): Los Angeles Chargers at Tennessee (6) Tom McCarthy, James Lofton, Jay Feely, Tiffany Blackmon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Late Sunday, September 17 - 4:25 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): New York Jets at Dallas (1) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson █ Blue: Washington at Denver (5) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Aditi Kinkhabwala ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Single Sunday, September 17 - 1 PM and 4:05 PM: █ Red (including Alaska): Seattle at Detroit (1) Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andrews, Tom Rinaldi █ Blue: Chicago at Tampa Bay (2) Joe Davis, Daryl Johnston, Pam Oliver █ Yellow (Yellow): Green Bay at Atlanta Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Shannon Spake █ Aqua (Aqua): Indianapolis at Houston (6) Chris Myers, Robert Smith, Jen Hale █ Green (LATE): New York Giants at Arizona (3) Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth, Kristina Pink █ Orange (including Hawaii) (LATE): San Francisco at Los Angeles Rams Kevin Kugler, Mark Sanchez, Laura Okmin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK: https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/12118/12950824/nfl-2023-season-live-on-sky-sports-kansas-city-chiefs-miami-dolphins-new-york-jets-and-san-francisco-49ers-in-action-across-opening-three-weeks TNF Friday, September 15 - 1:20 AM BST: Minnesota at Philadelphia Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Sunday Early Game Sunday, September 17 - 6 PM BST: Kansas City at Jacksonville Sky Sports NFL and at 7 PM BST: Sky Sports Main Event Sunday Late Game Sunday, September 17 - 9:25 PM BST: New York Jets at Dallas Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event SNF Monday, September 18 - 1:20 AM BST: Miami at New England Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event MNF - Game 1 Tuesday, September 19 - 12:15 AM BST: New Orleans at Carolina Sky Sports Arena and Sky Sports Mix MNF - Game 2 Tuesday, September 19 - 1:15 AM BST: Cleveland at Pittsburgh Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event, and Channel 5 [Channel 5 broadcasters: Kirsten Watson, Maurice Jones-Drew, Gregg Rosenthal] [Note: The tweet below from Sky Sports NFL has it wrong: the Jets are at the Cowboys, not the other way around.] https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NFL Game Pass on DAZN: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bye Week: none

[Mods: feel free to merge or delete. I searched...there were recent mentions of Michael Irvin, but not related to his legal problems. ] Well, in news we all (apparently?) missed, Michael Irvin was reinstated to NFL Network after he settled the lawsuit: From the article: "Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin’s extended suspension from NFL Network ended abruptly on Sunday, amid news that he had settled his lawsuit against Marriott. [....] Irvin was removed from NFL Network after a Marriott employee complained about his behavior during Super Bowl week. Jones could have ended the exile sooner, if he wanted. He has the power to influence such matters, clearly. But the timing of the events suggests that Irvin’s prolonged absence was never about any alleged misconduct. It was about the lawsuit, and the possibility that the NFL would be drawn into it. Even if Irvin didn’t sue the league and/or if Marriott didn’t add the league as a third-party defendant, it was clear that the NFL would be expected to produce documents and provide witnesses to discuss its handling of the situation. Marriott’s front-line defense was that, in communicating a hotel worker’s complaints to the league, Marriott was doing only what the league had expressly directed it to do. Inevitably, the league would have been involved, if the case had proceeded. And the various emails, text messages, and other communications could have put the operation in a negative light. So the case settled, Irvin returned to NFL Network, and there are no coincidences."

Positive: Allen is in the top 10 for NFL passing yards after Week 1: But Tua, damn. Needs to change soon.