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I did some research. Burkhardt and Olsen have only been a tandem since 2021, when they were the B-team for FOX (Buck and Aikman were the A-team). They became the A-team when Buck and Aikman left for ESPN in 2022. Burkhardt and Olsen have never called a Bills game. The last time we had Burkhardt was 2018 pre-season Week 3, Sunday August 26 when we hosted Cincinnati. At the time, the (B-)team was Burkhardt, Charles Davis, and Pam Oliver: https://archive.506sports.com/wiki/2018_NFL_Season https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Olsen_(American_football)

Not yet...no one has AFAIK. Maybe they will announce it during the Seattle at San Francisco game, but I am not watching that one. I will post as soon as I know...or maybe others will. We'll know by Tuesday afternoon at the latest.

I thought by "SD" you meant South Dakota. But there are also other markets not showing us, like Los Angeles and many areas around Colorado.

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UPDATE: CBS Single: Seattle and Spokane WA: JAX-CLE to IND-CIN (Fri) The people of Washington and northern Idaho have spoken. Vox populi, vox Dei!

So on the KC forum, there is an entire thread about Carl Cheffers. https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=351263 The OP asked what you think his worse call will be in the game. Some answers: 1. Calling Andy Reid for a personal foul eating a cheeseburger. 2: 3. "Bills DT will copy the Eagles and attempt to dive to catch the spike when Mahomes is setting up Butker for the game winning field goal. Mahomes will see it and turn a bit when spiking the ball to avoid a pick. Refs will call Mahomes for intentional grounding, which will push us out of field goal range. Mahomes will be forced to attempt a Hail Mary. Kelce will tackle all Bills DBs to free up MVS. Mahomes will throw a perfect pass, which MVS will drop to lose the game." 4. The NFL doesn't want KC in the SB this year. 5. "Did Carl cost us a Super Bowl by teaming up with brady? Yeah. Has he screwed us over numerous times in the regular season? Yeah. But after the crowd subdued him during the Raiders game after his terrible call against Chris Jones' great sack and strip play, I think he got scared straight. He didn't screw us over in the Super Bowl and actually let us win. He's still got an ankle monitor on in my book, but I'm going to be charitable and let him leave the referee house occasionally. I'm willing to judge him on his behavior going forward and not on the crimes of his past." 6. Another posted this is his first game back in KC since their Raiders game with Derek Carr: 7. Someone said there will be a lot of bitching about his calls in the GDT. [Note: Microsoft Edge's spell check does not want to suggest "bitching" as the correct choice no matter how clos I am to the correct spelling!]

So, on the Steelers forum they are calling for the firing on Mike Tomlin and some want a complete rebuild. http://thesteelersfans.com/forums/forums/steelers-talk.5/ [Note: the website has been down since late last night and is still down.] Some of the comments from after the game were: Mike Tomlin has lost the locker room Tomlin looked like a deer in the headlights in the late 4th quarter Players can do anything they want under Tomlin and not be held accountable Tomlin's time in Pittsburgh has run its course like Andy Reid's in Phiily did. Like Reid, he needs to be let go The only reason Tomlin was good was because he had Ben, Bell, AB, etc. This regime will never fire Tomlin; he' have to resign first Why does this all sound so familiar?? [Also, if he is fired (he won't be), do we want him?! LOL...not really a question.]

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Promo from last week's TNF: When Bill Belichick is your best player:

Always post the source in all your post (where relevant), in this case, the tweet that said that.

Oh I think the fans overseas love it. As far as popularity is concerned, American football is not even in the top 10: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html Rank - Sport - Name - Amount of Fans - Regions 1 Football (Soccer)3.5 Billion Europe, Africa, Asia, America 2 Cricket 2.5 Billion Asia, Australia, UK 3 Field Hockey 2 Billion Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia (not ice hockey) 4 Tennis 1 Billion Europe, Asia, America 5 Volleyball 900 Million Europe, Australia, Asia, America 6 Table Tennis 850 Million Europe, Africa, Asia, America 7 Basketball 800 Million America, Oceania, Middle East 8 Baseball 500 Million America, Japan 9 Rugby 475 Million Oceania, South Africa, England 10 Golf 450 Million America, Oceania, Europe [baseball?? WTF?] And you saw the results for teams in Week 1, like Buffalo and KC. In fact, our Jets loss set the tone for this failed (so far) season.

Move to the west coast and the games start at 10 AM!

Not sure if you can make someone of Von's level and reputation inactive. It would be like benching LeBron James, sort of. Besides, he might be angry this week and have something to prove. He'll be motivated. We need him for KC. Until the NFL suspends him at least, which they haven't done.

UPDATE: CBS Late: Butte, MT from DEN-LAC to BUF-KC (Wed.) Maps has been changed. Billings, MT is the only Montana market on DEN-LAC now.

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ManningCast will cover both MNF games simultaneously.] MNF 2 - ESPN/ESPN2 Monday, December 11 - 8:15 PM ET: Tennessee at Miami (B) Chris Fowler, Dan Orlovsky, Louis Riddick, Laura Rutledge [ManningCast on ESPN2: Peyton Manning, Eli Manning. ManningCast will cover both MNF games simultaneously.] [simulcasts: WTVF (CBS/5) Nashville and WSFL (CW/39) Miami] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Early: Sunday, December 10 - 1 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): Jacksonville at Cleveland (B) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn █ Blue: Houston at New York Jets (C) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins █ Green: Tampa Bay at Atlanta (E) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Aditi Kinkhabwala █ Yellow (Yellow): Indianapolis at Cincinnati (F) Tom McCarthy, James Lofton, Jay Feely, Tiffany Blackmon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Late: Sunday, December 10 - 4:25 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): Buffalo at Kansas City (A) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson [third game in a row CBS's A-team is doing Buffalo] █ Blue: Denver at Los Angeles Chargers (D) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Single Sunday, December 10 - 1 PM and 4:05 PM ET: █ Blue: Los Angeles Rams at Baltimore (B) Joe Davis, Darly Johnston, Pam Oliver █ Green: Detroit at Chicago (C) Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth, Kristina Pink █ Yellow (Yellow): Carolina at New Orleans Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Shannon Spake █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): Seattle at San Francisco (LATE) (A) Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andrews, Tom Rinaldi █ Orange: Minnesota at Las Vegas (LATE) Kevin Kugler, Mark Sanchez, Laura Okmin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byes: Arizona, Washington ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK and Ireland: https://www.skysports.com/watch/nfl-on-sky https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings/ TNF Friday, December 8 - 1:15 AM GMT: New England at Pittsburgh Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Sunday Early Game Sunday, December 10 - 6 PM GMT: Los Angeles Rams at Baltimore Sky Sports NFL only Sunday Late Game Sunday, December 10 - 9:25 PM GMT: Buffalo at Kansas City Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event (joined in progress at 10:00 PM) SNF Monday, December 11 - 1:20 AM GMT: Philadelphia at Dallas Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event MNF Tuesday, December 12 - 1:15 AM GMT: Green Bay at New York Giants Sky Sports NFL and Channel 5 MNF 2 Tuesday, December 12 - 1:15 AM GMT: Tennessee at Miami Sky Sports Arena and Sky Sports Main Event ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Australia: https://www.ussportsdownunder.com.au/blogs/tv-guides/australian-nfl-tv-guide TNF Friday, December 8- 12:15 AM AEDT: New England at Pittsburgh ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, December 11 - 5:00 AM AEDT: Jacksonville at Cleveland 7mate Los Angeles Rams at Baltimore ESPN Detroit at Chicago ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, December 11 - 8:25 AM AEDT: Denver at Los Angeles Chargers 7mate Buffalo at Kansas City ESPN SNF Monday, December 11 - 12:20 AM AEDT: Philadelphia at Dallas ESPN MNF Tuesday, December 12- 12:15 AM AEDT: Green Bay at New York Giants ESPN2 MNF 2 Tuesday, December 12- 12:15 AM AEDT: Tennessee at Miami ESPN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand: TNF Friday, December 8 - 2:15 PM NZDT: New England at Pittsburgh ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, December 11 - 7:00 AM NZDT: Jacksonville at Cleveland Free stream on NZTV+ Los Angeles Rams at Baltimore ESPN Detroit at Chicago ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, December 11 - 10:05 and 10:25 AM NZDT: Denver at Los Angeles Chargers (10:25 AM NZDT) Free stream on NZTV+ Seattle at San Francisco (10:05 AM NZDT) Free stream on NZTV+ Buffalo at Kansas City (10:25 AM NZDT) ESPN SNF Monday, December 11 - 2:20 PM NZDT: Philadelphia at Dallas ESPN MNF Tuesday, December 12 - 2:15 PM NZDT: Green Bay at New York Giants ESPN2 MNF 2 Tuesday, December 12 - 2:15 PM NZDT: Tennessee at Miami ESPN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Note: Shannon Spake's name below in the FOX graphic is spelled incorrectly.]

LOL:

LOL...Chiefs fans freaking out. See the comments in the tweet below:

We also had Cheffers in Week 1 at the Jets and Week 1 in 2022 at the Rams! NFL Capsules Week 14: https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2023 Football Information/Capsules/Week 14 Capsules.pdf [scroll 3/4 way down] Carl Cheffers: 16h season as Referee Pos. No. Name Exp. 2022 Crew College Occupation R 51 Carl Cheffers 22 n/a California-Irvine Sales Manager U 22 Brandon Cruse 2 same South Dakota School of Mines & Technology Mangement Consultant DJ 63 Mike Carr 7 same Wisconsin Athletic Director LJ 87 Tom Eaton 4 Rogers Central Florida Fiscal Manager FJ 33 Nate Jones* 5 same Rutgers Firefighter/EMT SJ 103 Eugene Hall 10 same North Texas Federal Agent BJ 133 Martin Hankins Rookie n/a LSU Lamar County Circuit Clerk RO n/a Kevin Brown 5 same Purdue retired Air Traffic Controller RA n/a Karlton Derrick 2 same Stanford Financial Advisor *Nate Jones is a former NFL player. He was a CB for Dallas, Miami, Denver, and New England from 2004-2011. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneNa20.htm https://www.sportscasting.com/super-bowl-referee-travis-kelce-said-carl-cheffers-shouldnt-work-foot-locker/ "Travis Kelce Once Said Super Bowl Referee Carl Cheffers ‘Shouldn’t Even Be Able to Work at F***ing Foot Locker’' "In 2016, the year before the team drafted Mahomes, the Chiefs finished 12-4 and made the playoffs with Alex Smith at quarterback. In the Wild Card Round that season, the Chiefs played the Steelers in a close, hotly-contested matchup. The Chiefs went down 18-10 with under 10 minutes to go in the game. Smith then led a seven-minute, 15-play touchdown drive to get KC within two points with 2:43 left on the clock. Smith and company just needed a two-point conversion to tie the game, and they got it when the Chiefs QB found Demetrius Harris in the end zone. However, NFL referee Carl Cheffers (No. 51) threw a flag and called a controversial holding call on Chiefs left tackle Eric Fisher. The next attempt failed. Ben Roethlisberger got the ball back, the Steelers got a 1st-down, and Big Ben took three knees to end the game. After the game, Travis Kelce didn’t hold back. The then-budding star said if NFL referees “want to take over the game and make it their own platform, there’s nothing you can do about it.” Kelce vehemently asserted it wasn’t a hold on Fisher and then went on to crush Cheffers in a classic rant that could only have come from the outspoke tight end. “[We] just got out jugulars ripped out because ref felt bad for James Harrison falling on the ground,” Kelce fumed. “It’s ignorance. The ref, No. 51, shouldn’t even be able to wear a zebra jersey ever again. He shouldn’t even be able to work at f***ing Foot Locker.”' https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2023/01/31/super-bowl-referee-carl-cheffers-stats [limited free views] "Based on Carl Cheffers Stats, Expect Lots of Flags and the Under in Super Bowl LVII" "According to BetArizona.com, which was kind enough to send me some stats, Cheffers ranked first in total penalties called per game this season at 12.59. Cheffers also led all NFL refs in penalties called last season. He also was first in total yards in penalties given per game at 109.94. Cheffers and his crew (which will be different for the Super Bowl) also called 21 pass interferences this season, which ranked second among NFL refs."

Thank you, and good research on the Romo games!